Conservative and Labour MPs sacked and suspended over ceasefire and peace comments

An incredibly strong speech by prominent Jewish MP Sir Gerald Kaufman in the British Parliament , worth 5 minutes of anybody's time.


Well said Sir.

a reply to: gortex


Clearly not talking about what is happening now is he? He died in 2017...

a reply to: SprocketUK

Seems he is , nothing has changed , his words are no less true now as they were then.

originally posted by: gortex
a reply to: SprocketUK

Seems he is , nothing has changed , his words are no less true now as they were then.

But you posted that spech as if he were speaking out against what is happening now.

Why lie all the time if your cause is so just huh?

originally posted by: SprocketUK

originally posted by: gortex
a reply to: SprocketUK

Seems he is , nothing has changed , his words are no less true now as they were then.

But you posted that spech as if he were speaking out against what is happening now.

Why lie all the time if your cause is so just huh?

You have been claiming everyone lies who doesn't support the Israeli positions.

There are millions of people against the war and against the occupation of Palestine by Israel. Either you like it or not this is the reality.

To the point of the conversation, any MP can say what they want. They can't be suspended or sacked because they argue in favour of ceasefire and peace.

Others around the world have directly accused Israel of committing war crimes.

a reply to: SprocketUK

Irish MEP Mick Wallace said the following:

Israel's list of war crimes grow by the minute

1) Complete siege of Gaza
2) Incitement to genocide
3) Collective punishment
4) Forced expulsion
5) Disproportional aerial bombardment of the civilian population
6) Attacks on civilian structures, hospitals, and humanitarian workers

Anyone disagree?

originally posted by: Leviathan4

originally posted by: SprocketUK

originally posted by: gortex
a reply to: SprocketUK

Seems he is , nothing has changed , his words are no less true now as they were then.

But you posted that spech as if he were speaking out against what is happening now.

Why lie all the time if your cause is so just huh?

You have been claiming everyone lies who doesn't support the Israeli positions.

There are millions of people against the war and against the occupation of Palestine by Israel. Either you like it or not this is the reality.

To the point of the conversation, any MP can say what they want. They can't be suspended or sacked because they argue in favour of ceasefire and peace.

Others around the world have directly accused Israel of committing war crimes.

Using the MP's speech in the way the poster did was to give the incorrect impression he was speaking out against what is happening now.

The fact is he had been dead 6 years so absolutely could not speak about current events without a ouija board or similar.

Tpo claim otherwise merely illustrates how out of touch you are with reality.

originally posted by: Leviathan4
a reply to: SprocketUK

Irish MEP Mick Wallace said the following:

Israel's list of war crimes grow by the minute

1) Complete siege of Gaza
2) Incitement to genocide
3) Collective punishment
4) Forced expulsion
5) Disproportional aerial bombardment of the civilian population
6) Attacks on civilian structures, hospitals, and humanitarian workers

Anyone disagree?

and Irish Mp's are entitled to say whatever they like.


This bias against Israel comes from them viewing the Israelis as Brits and the Pales as the Irish.


Doesnt make it right but it's how they look at the world.

originally posted by: SprocketUK

originally posted by: Leviathan4
a reply to: SprocketUK

Irish MEP Mick Wallace said the following:

Israel's list of war crimes grow by the minute

1) Complete siege of Gaza
2) Incitement to genocide
3) Collective punishment
4) Forced expulsion
5) Disproportional aerial bombardment of the civilian population
6) Attacks on civilian structures, hospitals, and humanitarian workers

Anyone disagree?

and Irish Mp's are entitled to say whatever they like.


This bias against Israel comes from them viewing the Israelis as Brits and the Pales as the Irish.


Doesnt make it right but it's how they look at the world.

And Human Right Lawyers say more or less what Mick Wallace said. And Amnesty International and the UN. And other politicians and experts around that world.

Why I shouldn't listen to them. Should I listen to the IDF for clarity and truth?! They have recently claimed there is no humanitarian crisis in Gaza....

Israel has committed war crimes and this is evident. You don't need an Irish MEP to verify it.

Should the major countries of the world begin military actions and diplomatic arrests in Israel to exact revenge/justice for the war crimes being committed by the Jewish People in Israel?

originally posted by: Leviathan4

originally posted by: SprocketUK

originally posted by: Leviathan4
a reply to: SprocketUK

Irish MEP Mick Wallace said the following:

Israel's list of war crimes grow by the minute

1) Complete siege of Gaza
2) Incitement to genocide
3) Collective punishment
4) Forced expulsion
5) Disproportional aerial bombardment of the civilian population
6) Attacks on civilian structures, hospitals, and humanitarian workers

Anyone disagree?

and Irish Mp's are entitled to say whatever they like.


This bias against Israel comes from them viewing the Israelis as Brits and the Pales as the Irish.


Doesnt make it right but it's how they look at the world.

And Human Right Lawyers say more or less what Mick Wallace said. And Amnesty International and the UN. And other politicians and experts around that world.

Why I shouldn't listen to them. Should I listen to the IDF for clarity and truth?! They have recently claimed there is no humanitarian crisis in Gaza....

Israel has committed war crimes and this is evident. You don't need an Irish MEP to verify it.

Yet you’re crickets when it comes to Hamas continued war crimes, so give us a break. I asked you in another thread but you avoided addressing hamas’s war crimes, just Israel blah blah blah. You’re a one trick pony.

originally posted by: NeonKnights

originally posted by: Leviathan4

originally posted by: SprocketUK

originally posted by: Leviathan4
a reply to: SprocketUK

Irish MEP Mick Wallace said the following:

Israel's list of war crimes grow by the minute

1) Complete siege of Gaza
2) Incitement to genocide
3) Collective punishment
4) Forced expulsion
5) Disproportional aerial bombardment of the civilian population
6) Attacks on civilian structures, hospitals, and humanitarian workers

Anyone disagree?

and Irish Mp's are entitled to say whatever they like.


This bias against Israel comes from them viewing the Israelis as Brits and the Pales as the Irish.


Doesnt make it right but it's how they look at the world.

And Human Right Lawyers say more or less what Mick Wallace said. And Amnesty International and the UN. And other politicians and experts around that world.

Why I shouldn't listen to them. Should I listen to the IDF for clarity and truth?! They have recently claimed there is no humanitarian crisis in Gaza....

Israel has committed war crimes and this is evident. You don't need an Irish MEP to verify it.

Yet you’re crickets when it comes to Hamas continued war crimes, so give us a break. I asked you in another thread but you avoided addressing hamas’s war crimes, just Israel blah blah blah. You’re a one trick pony.

Not true at all.
Hamas made one move on the 7th of October. Israel keeps making moves from that point on until now. That's why there is much more criticism and due to the large number of civilian deaths.

What you're saying is untrue.

My position is clear: War crimes committed by Hamas have been answered with war crimes committed by Israel.

I haven't seen your condemnation of those who have committed war crimes. We can all guess the reason....

originally posted by: Leviathan4

originally posted by: NeonKnights

originally posted by: Leviathan4

originally posted by: SprocketUK

originally posted by: Leviathan4
a reply to: SprocketUK

Irish MEP Mick Wallace said the following:

Israel's list of war crimes grow by the minute

1) Complete siege of Gaza
2) Incitement to genocide
3) Collective punishment
4) Forced expulsion
5) Disproportional aerial bombardment of the civilian population
6) Attacks on civilian structures, hospitals, and humanitarian workers

Anyone disagree?

and Irish Mp's are entitled to say whatever they like.


This bias against Israel comes from them viewing the Israelis as Brits and the Pales as the Irish.


Doesnt make it right but it's how they look at the world.

And Human Right Lawyers say more or less what Mick Wallace said. And Amnesty International and the UN. And other politicians and experts around that world.

Why I shouldn't listen to them. Should I listen to the IDF for clarity and truth?! They have recently claimed there is no humanitarian crisis in Gaza....

Israel has committed war crimes and this is evident. You don't need an Irish MEP to verify it.

Yet you’re crickets when it comes to Hamas continued war crimes, so give us a break. I asked you in another thread but you avoided addressing hamas’s war crimes, just Israel blah blah blah. You’re a one trick pony.

Not true at all.
Hamas made one move on the 7th of October. Israel keeps making moves from that point on until now. That's why there is much more criticism and due to the large number of civilian deaths.

What you're saying is untrue.

My position is clear: War crimes committed by Hamas have been answered with war crimes committed by Israel.

I haven't seen your condemnation of those who have committed war crimes. We can all guess the reason....

Stop lying.

The following war crimes are being committed as we speak or as of recent by Palestine.
Holding hostages = war crime
Using civilians as human shields = war crime
Road blocking Palestinians from leaving through a route/road that Israel was allowing refugees to flee = war crime
Using Emergency vehicles (ambulances) to smuggle out combatants = war crime
Indiscriminate bombing and killing of civilians in Israel = war crime
Burning people alive and beheadings = war crime
Stealing humanitarian aid from non combatants = war crime


So…personally I don’t care what Israel does to them, they deserve every thing they’re getting, after all Palestinians elected Hamas to represent them, that’s what they’re getting. Israel can turn it to glass and piss on their graves for all I care. Here’s a brilliant idea you probably haven’t thought of…don’t elect terrorist to represent and govern your country. You may not like the repercussions of their actions.

I also don’t agree with a ceasefire until Hamas is eliminated. Maybe Palestinians will do something to stop Hamas, it would be in their best interest and self preservation to do so.

a reply to: Leviathan4

I just told you where the Irish politicians view comes from but true to form you refuse to listen and blab on with your own internal comnspiracy theory.

Maybe all this in Israel and Gaza is the fault of people like you? Annoying people so much that they go on killing sprees?

originally posted by: NeonKnights

originally posted by: Leviathan4

originally posted by: NeonKnights

originally posted by: Leviathan4

originally posted by: SprocketUK

originally posted by: Leviathan4
a reply to: SprocketUK

Irish MEP Mick Wallace said the following:

Israel's list of war crimes grow by the minute

1) Complete siege of Gaza
2) Incitement to genocide
3) Collective punishment
4) Forced expulsion
5) Disproportional aerial bombardment of the civilian population
6) Attacks on civilian structures, hospitals, and humanitarian workers

Anyone disagree?

and Irish Mp's are entitled to say whatever they like.


This bias against Israel comes from them viewing the Israelis as Brits and the Pales as the Irish.


Doesnt make it right but it's how they look at the world.

And Human Right Lawyers say more or less what Mick Wallace said. And Amnesty International and the UN. And other politicians and experts around that world.

Why I shouldn't listen to them. Should I listen to the IDF for clarity and truth?! They have recently claimed there is no humanitarian crisis in Gaza....

Israel has committed war crimes and this is evident. You don't need an Irish MEP to verify it.

Yet you’re crickets when it comes to Hamas continued war crimes, so give us a break. I asked you in another thread but you avoided addressing hamas’s war crimes, just Israel blah blah blah. You’re a one trick pony.

Not true at all.
Hamas made one move on the 7th of October. Israel keeps making moves from that point on until now. That's why there is much more criticism and due to the large number of civilian deaths.

What you're saying is untrue.

My position is clear: War crimes committed by Hamas have been answered with war crimes committed by Israel.

I haven't seen your condemnation of those who have committed war crimes. We can all guess the reason....

Stop lying.

The following war crimes are being committed as we speak or as of recent by Palestine.
Holding hostages = war crime
Using civilians as human shields = war crime
Road blocking Palestinians from leaving through a route/road that Israel was allowing refugees to flee = war crime
Using Emergency vehicles (ambulances) to smuggle out combatants = war crime
Indiscriminate bombing and killing of civilians in Israel = war crime
Burning people alive and beheadings = war crime
Stealing humanitarian aid from non combatants = war crime


So…personally I don’t care what Israel does to them, they deserve every thing they’re getting, after all Palestinians elected Hamas to represent them, that’s what they’re getting. Israel can turn it to glass and piss on their graves for all I care. Here’s a brilliant idea you probably haven’t thought of…don’t elect terrorist to represent and govern your country. You may not like the repercussions of their actions.

I also don’t agree with a ceasefire until Hamas is eliminated. Maybe Palestinians will do something to stop Hamas, it would be in their best interest and self preservation to do so.

Lying about what

My position is clear: War crimes committed by Hamas have been answered with war crimes committed by Israel.

I also don’t agree with a ceasefire until Hamas is eliminated. Maybe Palestinians will do something to stop Hamas, it would be in their best interest and self preservation to do so

Who cares what toy think. That's only your opinion.

You seem to getting angry just like everyone else who blindly supports the position of Israel


Here are the war crimes committed by Israel so far

1) Complete siege of Gaza
2) Incitement to genocide
3) Collective punishment
4) Forced expulsion
5) Disproportional aerial bombardment of the civilian population
6) Attacks on civilian structures, hospitals, and humanitarian workers

Israel has killed thousands of innocent civilians mostly women and children. They forced hundreds of thousands of people to move from where they live (forced expulsion) and they're also bombing the south part of Gaza, the area they have asked them to move. They have cut off electricity and water. They have attacked and bombed pretty much everything that's one the ground.

originally posted by: SprocketUK
a reply to: Leviathan4

I just told you where the Irish politicians view comes from but true to form you refuse to listen and blab on with your own internal comnspiracy theory.

Maybe all this in Israel and Gaza is the fault of people like you? Annoying people so much that they go on killing sprees?

Not my fault.
Nothing to do with it.

I don't know what is the view of Irish Politicians. I understand that Northern Ireland is viewed as an occupied territory just like Palestine. But terms of thousands of Celtic supporters were singing you never walk alone in support of Palestine. It says it all.

originally posted by: Leviathan4

originally posted by: SprocketUK
a reply to: Leviathan4

I just told you where the Irish politicians view comes from but true to form you refuse to listen and blab on with your own internal comnspiracy theory.

Maybe all this in Israel and Gaza is the fault of people like you? Annoying people so much that they go on killing sprees?

Not my fault.
Nothing to do with it.

I don't know what is the view of Irish Politicians. I understand that Northern Ireland is viewed as an occupied territory just like Palestine. But terms of thousands of Celtic supporters were singing you never walk alone in support of Palestine. It says it all.

Again you get it wrong, when Celtic sing Walk On its for them, just as Liverpool sing it for themselves. Nothing to do with Palestinians or anyone else.

originally posted by: Leviathan4

originally posted by: NeonKnights

originally posted by: Leviathan4

originally posted by: NeonKnights

originally posted by: Leviathan4

originally posted by: SprocketUK

originally posted by: Leviathan4
a reply to: SprocketUK

Irish MEP Mick Wallace said the following:

Israel's list of war crimes grow by the minute

1) Complete siege of Gaza
2) Incitement to genocide
3) Collective punishment
4) Forced expulsion
5) Disproportional aerial bombardment of the civilian population
6) Attacks on civilian structures, hospitals, and humanitarian workers

Anyone disagree?

and Irish Mp's are entitled to say whatever they like.


This bias against Israel comes from them viewing the Israelis as Brits and the Pales as the Irish.


Doesnt make it right but it's how they look at the world.

And Human Right Lawyers say more or less what Mick Wallace said. And Amnesty International and the UN. And other politicians and experts around that world.

Why I shouldn't listen to them. Should I listen to the IDF for clarity and truth?! They have recently claimed there is no humanitarian crisis in Gaza....

Israel has committed war crimes and this is evident. You don't need an Irish MEP to verify it.

Yet you’re crickets when it comes to Hamas continued war crimes, so give us a break. I asked you in another thread but you avoided addressing hamas’s war crimes, just Israel blah blah blah. You’re a one trick pony.

Not true at all.
Hamas made one move on the 7th of October. Israel keeps making moves from that point on until now. That's why there is much more criticism and due to the large number of civilian deaths.

What you're saying is untrue.

My position is clear: War crimes committed by Hamas have been answered with war crimes committed by Israel.

I haven't seen your condemnation of those who have committed war crimes. We can all guess the reason....

Stop lying.

The following war crimes are being committed as we speak or as of recent by Palestine.
Holding hostages = war crime
Using civilians as human shields = war crime
Road blocking Palestinians from leaving through a route/road that Israel was allowing refugees to flee = war crime
Using Emergency vehicles (ambulances) to smuggle out combatants = war crime
Indiscriminate bombing and killing of civilians in Israel = war crime
Burning people alive and beheadings = war crime
Stealing humanitarian aid from non combatants = war crime


So…personally I don’t care what Israel does to them, they deserve every thing they’re getting, after all Palestinians elected Hamas to represent them, that’s what they’re getting. Israel can turn it to glass and piss on their graves for all I care. Here’s a brilliant idea you probably haven’t thought of…don’t elect terrorist to represent and govern your country. You may not like the repercussions of their actions.

I also don’t agree with a ceasefire until Hamas is eliminated. Maybe Palestinians will do something to stop Hamas, it would be in their best interest and self preservation to do so.

Lying about what

My position is clear: War crimes committed by Hamas have been answered with war crimes committed by Israel.

I also don’t agree with a ceasefire until Hamas is eliminated. Maybe Palestinians will do something to stop Hamas, it would be in their best interest and self preservation to do so

Who cares what toy think. That's only your opinion.

You seem to getting angry just like everyone else who blindly supports the position of Israel


Here are the war crimes committed by Israel so far

1) Complete siege of Gaza
2) Incitement to genocide
3) Collective punishment
4) Forced expulsion
5) Disproportional aerial bombardment of the civilian population
6) Attacks on civilian structures, hospitals, and humanitarian workers

Israel has killed thousands of innocent civilians mostly women and children. They forced hundreds of thousands of people to move from where they live (forced expulsion) and they're also bombing the south part of Gaza, the area they have asked them to move. They have cut off electricity and water. They have attacked and bombed pretty much everything that's one the ground.

….and ditto, don’t care what your opinion is either and that’s exactly all you have. You’ve a lot of made up and embellished assumptions that you don’t even know are true nor do you understand. FYI Israel isn’t forcing them to leave, they’re welcome to stay right where they are. Israel actually gave them a escape route which hamas trucks blocked, sounds like the only genocide attempts are coming from their own elected people. Whether you like it or not Hamas is going down in Gaza one way or another. Buckle up buttercup.

a reply to: Leviathan4

But terms of thousands of Celtic supporters were singing you never walk alone in support of Palestine.

Celtic supporters adopted and started singing You'll Never Walk Alone back in the mid-60's.
It is sung at every home game at Parkhead.

a reply to: Leviathan4

I understand that Northern Ireland is viewed as an occupied territory just like Palestine.

You understand wrong then.

If you want to discuss Northern Ireland then start a thread about it.....but I suggest you do some homework and research first.