Resist the war machine

a reply to: FlyersFan

In today's world it SHOULD be a focus to help you understand what's going on in it.

originally posted by: FlyersFan
I highly doubt it was an 'inside job'.

I can show you a mountain of evidence that says otherwise, but I kinda doubt you'd believe it regardless.

Netanyahu wanted this to happen because of his failing support. Thousands were set to protest the weekend before the terrorist attack. He didn't orchestrate it but he certainly let it happen. Never let a good crisis go to waste as they say.

Now in regards to manufacturing consent for war. You should always be cautious when the establishment tells you "so and so" is a threat because it's always more nuanced than that.
Ukraine isn't just some innocent victim of Russian aggression. Just like israel isn't some innocent a victim of HAMAS aggression. Neither country deserves this.
But to act like these things occur inside a vacuum is incredibly disingenuous.

IT WOULD BE POSSIBLE to end war, if humans stopped saying war was inevitable, and using it as a justification to dominate the other guy "before he does it to us".

When I was an alcoholic, I thought it couldn't be helped, so I went hard and drank the most and the hardest liquors I could get.
It turns out you can actually stop doing things that hurt you.

After I got sober, people told me I was always gonna be an alcoholic, and if I ever drank a beer again I'd relapse and end up in the gutter with an exploding liver. It turns out, that was a lie too. All you have to do is set rules for yourself and stick to them. Now I can share a 12 pack with a friend and not drink for 6 months. I just don't allow myself to have alcohol at home.

I also used to be a heavy smoker. People said cigarettes were harder to quit than heroin, and smokers filled me full of their excuses.
My chainsmoking dad tried to convince me vaping would give me pneumonia and kill me. I used it to quit and now barely vape.
He is now dying of progressive emphysema, and my alcoholic brother who continued viewing alcoholism as a disease, just got an OWI on top of his prior DUI, and his liver is failing.

Self-fulfilling prophecies have become the way of the world, and if they're negative, then you should really stop doing that.



a reply to: Deetermined

a reply to: misskat1
Well said.
And couldn't agree more.

Tptb are removing all 'potential' resistance in society..
Take out all the young men and men in general.

a reply to: TheValeyard

History proves you wrong. Humans will never agree. Period.

a reply to: misskat1

The earth would be a far more humane place if humans didn't exist.


Tell me that isn't true!

to be honest i no longer care about the others just me and mine..

there is nothing any of us can do to stop the coming war..

You seem awfully happy to say that!
Maybe you're trying to project some dark triad traits onto the world instead of actually addressing them in yourself,
and using transference onto a religious deity to feel superior to humanity by association.
But what do I know?

You know who else thought the world could never change so we might as well expedite the end?
Jim Jones. The Branch Davidians and the FBI squad who fired first. Al Queda and ISIL.
The Heaven's Gate cult.

It's better to try and fail, than to say "screw it" and actively work toward destruction.

a reply to: Deetermined

The word "humane" is contingent on human existence.
Think before you speak.

a reply to: LittleJake

a reply to: TheValeyard

I'm just a realist. I'm not projecting anything or working actively toward destruction. Everyone can only be responsible for themselves. Cheering on peace to the masses is admirable, but you need to be able to look at it from a realistic point of view too.

a reply to: TheValeyard

THE EARTH WOULD BE A FAR MORE HUMANE PLACE IF HUMANS DIDN'T EXIST.

THE EARTH WOULD BE A FAR MORE HUMANE PLACE IF HUMANS DIDN'T EXIST.

THE EARTH WOULD BE A FAR MORE HUMANE PLACE IF HUMANS DIDN'T EXIST.

THE EARTH WOULD BE A FAR MORE HUMANE PLACE IF HUMANS DIDN'T EXIST.

THE EARTH WOULD BE A FAR MORE HUMANE PLACE IF HUMANS DIDN'T EXIST.

THE EARTH WOULD BE A FAR MORE HUMANE PLACE IF HUMANS DIDN'T EXIST.

ETC, ETC, ETC!

I fell for 9/11 at the time. Had some time since to do some research and get a clearer picture of how these things work.

The 8th of October has false flag written all over it with the Israel stand down and slow response. People are looking for some verifiable forensic evidence that 40 babies did get decapitated. Lots of videos of people getting shot, none show any evidence that heads got cut off that day. For those following these claims are finding a lot of retracted statements.

Using the dead babies card is great to rally the troops, been used and abuses way too often to trust any claims at face value these days.

What we are up against hates all religion and will use whatever bits and pieces of it can for its own aims. Lie, cheat, steal, kill. They do feel superior when taking advantage of others. This is not the kind of mark i want to leave on this world when it is my day to rest in peace.

a reply to: FlyersFan

i have heard it was an IDF infiltrator, sympathetic to Palestine. I dont know if it was a political rebel or a muslim? Do arabs in Isreal serve?

Yes, very good points. The beheaded baby thing hurt my heart, they really know how to manipulate.

I lost my religion long ago, but even I think there are really dark forces behind all of this. Doesn't the book of Enoch say something like, only the nephlims physically died, but their spirits are now demons? Looking at today's world, I would like to blame it on demons than to realize, mankind really is that evil.

I'm not discounting the evil illuminati, 13 family stuff, but makes you wonder what or who is pulling their strings.

An anthem from my youth. It was highly rejected by those who said, ''but''.

a reply to: misskat1

mankind really is that evil.

It hurts to think that doesn't it. It's appalling. I am appalled. Yet I have come to see it as one end of a wide spectrum of human capacity. What we might do is seek for those on the other end of the scale.

a reply to: misskat1

With how Israel got started after WW2, a lot of people from around Germany did move there. While some did move there as Jew's, some of that Nazi culture went with them. With what it has created since is one big ugly mess that has gone tropo. Being near the equator, the heat has sent many mad.

As for some bigger plan at play, Israel was the nation that went the hardest on getting as many citizens vaccinated as it could. No problems with forced medical experimentation there. With this kind of government fine with harming its own people, sucks to be those they really hate. With the role of the Zionists in 9/11, I don't trust them. They have a lot of power to get away with it the way they did.

Israel has a very militant culture, strong propaganda, constant alert. In taking on Palestine they used a lot lessons from WW2 to do so. Now that Israel is in the final stages of finishing of Palestine, who is next?

a reply to: misskat1

As long as people keep falling for the obvious Atrocity Propaganda like decapitated babies or babies in cages (which was proven to be an old video taking place in Israel), and they keep forgetting that every major attack that causes significant movement on the grand chessboard is orchestrated by TPTB, they will continue to call for the plebians to spill blood in far off lands, including children. Because they are "subhuman monsters".

originally posted by: misskat1
Most Christians are taught that isreal must be protected, or wraith of God, no blessings etc.

Those are mostly Protestants and evangelicals, they only defend the national interest if it aligns with their principles.

It's easy to see where Protestants get their conception of right from: "The Principle of Religion is that God attends to our actions to reward and punish them". (Edmund Burke) According to Schopenhauer, their system reduces god to a Paymaster, these are not purely ethical "since fear of punishment, or hope of reward are their motive", and the guiding principle in a nutshell is: "we can wait." (carrot and stick) In short, he condemns their religion as egoism, self-deception, selfish ambition.

Catholicism may be held accountable for this teaching: "The invention of a purgatory, and of the releasing of souls therefrom, by prayers, bought of the church with money; the selling of pardons, dispensations, and indulgences, are revenue laws, without bearing that name or carrying that appearance." (Thomas Paine)

Orthodoxy alone has the merit of adopting a humanistic principle: "do not look around, do not compare, do not expect a reward – just do your best every day, with no excuses or cutting corners. Do what you must, without expecting praise and gratitude, without demanding anything in return..." catalog.obitel-minsk.com... For comparison, Kurt Vonnegut's definition for a right-thinking individual: "I am a humanist, which mean, in part, that I have tried to behave decently without any expectation of rewards or punishments after I'm dead." www.azquotes.com...

originally posted by: misskat1
We need to refuse to send our kids to war. If they are called to defend our southern border, I will help them pack... I think for these wars to end, we the peons need to refuse to kill each other.

You're right.

This dream pertaining to late 2025 suggests that Americans will raise enough of an outcry to prevent it: "There were even talks about potentially initiating the draft as the US struggled to enlist recruits but it was an extremely unpopular option and protests were happening simply from the discussions being had." old.reddit.com... Its prediction about an uptick in racially motivated crimes, as well as US cities splintering into smaller communities (which matches two other predictions I've read), seems very logically-considered. For comparison: old.reddit.com...

originally posted by: misskat1
Is this a ploy to get our people to submit to another bloody war?

Probably, and it may also serve as a distraction for the public. Also, people are losing enthusiasm for the Ukraine conflict, western media has been buckling down on its propaganda about an Ukrainian victory.

originally posted by: misskat1
I say let yhwh Jehovah and Allah fight their own battles. After 2000 yrs of bloodshed, those gods are dead, don't care, or like the spilling of blood.

Yes, we're led to believe god made the world and abandoned it or looked on in indifference. That view does not accurately reflect the Deism of this nation's Founding Fathers, god is not the author of confusion.

"Nay he even looked on for myriads, or if you prefer, for thousands of years... For if he is the God of all of us alike, and the creator of all, why did he neglect us?" (Julian)

originally posted by: misskat1
Once they kill each other off, let their God sort them out. Not my country, not my war.

I think the whole point of these wars is to wear out both sides (America & Russia, Israel & Islamic forces), so that a third party can intervene and impose their authority, without resistance.

Tacitus on Augustus' rise to power: "Opposition there was none: the boldest spirits had succumbed on stricken fields or by proscription-lists."

originally posted by: misskat1
a reply to: Waterglass
Well, patriots are fed up with this invasion, civil war is coming very soon.

I hope you're right...I have a few scores to settle.


"Those who deny freedom to others deserve it not for themselves."
Abraham Lincoln