The CIA Likely Has Evidence if God Exists or Not

originally posted by: CoyoteAngels
a reply to: Annee

I think mainstream academia gets it very wrong,so am open to other theories.

A fictional story that got me thinking years ago about cycles of civilization and collapse is a fun book titled 'The Mote in God's Eye.'. About a very intelligent species that is particularly adept at industry and invention. And breeds like bunnyz.

Sounds good -- gonna look it up.

I do believe more is going on than "we" (we in general as in humans) know.

But a God? In the religious sense? NO

Could our government be in collaboration with off-planet beings? Absolutely!

EDIT: Right - Larry Niven and Jerry Pournelle -- thought it sounded familiar.

a reply to: Annee

Thats the one! It gave my young mind lots to think about.

originally posted by: CoyoteAngels
a reply to: Annee

Thats the one! It gave my young mind lots to think about.

This is not exactly on topic -- but I do think some people's ideas are channeled from "elsewhere".

I know when I write its like I'm in a trance and the story flows through me.

a reply to: Annee

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: CoyoteAngels
a reply to: Annee

Thats the one! It gave my young mind lots to think about.

This is not exactly on topic -- but I do think some people's ideas are channeled from "elsewhere".

I know when I write its like I'm in a trance and the story flows through me.

From Demonic beings. Same place Darwin got his nonsense.

originally posted by: visitedbythem

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: CoyoteAngels
a reply to: Annee

Thats the one! It gave my young mind lots to think about.

This is not exactly on topic -- but I do think some people's ideas are channeled from "elsewhere".

I know when I write its like I'm in a trance and the story flows through me.

From Demonic beings. Same place Darwin got his nonsense.

Your belief -- not mine.

I support Darwin and science.

originally posted by: Annee
The Terra Papers make more sense to me than anything else I've read.

I really dug the Terra Papers when I first came across them but, personally, I find Robert Monroe's books more compelling.

IIRC, his institute was even involved with the US military in remote viewing research.

Not sure the CIA knows the truth but someone in the MIC might and, honestly, it could be that there is no god, in the traditional sense.

originally posted by: Dutchowl
a reply to: wiredcerebellum

They worship the other guy so thry probably know he's real.

That’s probably just propaganda.

originally posted by: Dutchowl
a reply to: wiredcerebellum

They worship the other guy so thry probably know he's real.

That’s probably just propaganda.

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: visitedbythem

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: CoyoteAngels
a reply to: Annee

Thats the one! It gave my young mind lots to think about.

This is not exactly on topic -- but I do think some people's ideas are channeled from "elsewhere".

I know when I write its like I'm in a trance and the story flows through me.

From Demonic beings. Same place Darwin got his nonsense.

Your belief -- not mine.

I support Darwin and science.

Darwin, like Fauci are about "The Science", Not Science. They are two different things. My Father is a Scientist. Chemist, Microbiologist, Bacteriologist, Engineer, Director of Research, and Summoned to the White House to brief The Vice President and leaders of Congress on a method he developed to detect bacterium. Pioneer PC builder in the 70s featured in newspaper headlines. He continues to practice science as nearly a centurion.

Darwin is perpetuator of modern-day urban legend mythology. It takes a massive amount of overlooking observable facts to even begin to believe that nonsense. In fact it takes a tremendous amount of faith in "the science™ " to arrive at such fanciful conclusions.

originally posted by: visitedbythem
...Summoned to the White House to brief The Vice President and leaders of Congress on a method he developed to detect bacterium...

So he was kinda like Fauci, in the fold, part of "that group".

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: Quadrivium

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: Quadrivium

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: Quadrivium
a reply to: wiredcerebellum
They KNOW God exist.
They chose to work for the other guy.

You need to have belief in God to believe in the other guy.

Atheist — lack of belief in God.

NO — your wishful thinking that a non-believer KNOWS God exits — is just that — YOUR wishful thinking.

Why are you so angry at something, if you don't believe in it?

A statement is a statement.

Any emotions you are reading into it are yours.

Your emotions led you to comment on a post you thought was directed to you.
You did not take the time to read, instead you lashed out with negativity.

NO - the emotions are yours.

I correct wrong info in regards to Atheism.

🤣🤣🤣
Ummm, No you don't.
You attack because of your anger.
Everyone sees it, even real atheist.

originally posted by: daskakik

originally posted by: visitedbythem
...Summoned to the White House to brief The Vice President and leaders of Congress on a method he developed to detect bacterium...

So he was kinda like Fauci, in the fold, part of "that group".

He was summoned to the Whitehouse in the 70s. I think it was about a year or two after my dad had been traveling the middle East. He flew out of Israel into Egypt, in order to get a flight into Russia. You couldn't fly direct from Israel to Russia at that time.
He had previously been approached in the US regarding his planned middle East trip. He was asked at that time to take part in and perform a highly illegal smuggling operation into Russia. He agreed and followed through.

Nah he is not part of their group. Since 2020, Dad doesn't have a high opinion about Fauci or his group.

a reply to: visitedbythem
I meant, the DC crowd, who are often seen saying god bless and all that.

I don't even know why you bring Fauci up because he isn't really part of the thread but the guy grew up catholic and for all we know he might even believe in god although he does say he moved away from organized religion.

Even Darwin believed in god so, what is the point of trying to say there is science and then there is science™.

Using my own mind and power of thought..


....No. No the CIA doesn't have proof or able to disprove God. The only way we will find out is when we die.

a reply to: daskakik

No. He isnt a part of the DC crowd. He doesn't go around saying God bless you and all that. Picture a serious 97-year-old Mr. Spock.

originally posted by: daskakik

originally posted by: Annee
The Terra Papers make more sense to me than anything else I've read.

I really dug the Terra Papers when I first came across them but, personally, I find Robert Monroe's books more compelling.

IIRC, his institute was even involved with the US military in remote viewing research.

Not sure the CIA knows the truth but someone in the MIC might and, honestly, it could be that there is no god, in the traditional sense.

They seem to be totally different -- I don't see a comparison.

Terra Papers is a history. You have to drop your ego and have an open mind to accept the possibility.

So, again -- I would not be surprised if high level persons-in-charge -- are in collaboration with off-planet beings (not God).

a reply to: visitedbythem
Not now, but when he was rubbing elbows and briefing the vice president he was part of that crowd.

The god bless you part is about politicians at least acting like they believe in god, maybe some do, but what does playing the role of the "science" guy in those circles, like your dad or fauci have to do with the existence of god?

a reply to: Annee
The difference is why I find Monroe more compelling.

I am open to the possibility of the Terra Papers but it is just more of a stretch than what Monroe put out. The warring factions in the Terra Papers just seems like a human storyteller's trope. It is almost like the whole good vs evil of just about every religion.

Monroe lays earth out more like an amusement park, where you visit, avatar style, and some are so hooked by it that they don't want to leave and keep trying out different characters.

That would certainly imply a creator or even a team or teams of creators and operators that are not God, with a capital G.

a reply to: wiredcerebellum

If they had proof god exists why would there be a need for organised religious practice?

Also, you do realise, given the diversity that occurs with religion in all its many guises and throughout the span of recorded history, that they can't all be correct.