The United Kingdom Will Begin Deploying Troops to the Ukraine vs Russia War Zone.

a reply to: Degradation33

Prelude to Article V?

The absolute worst case scenario for Russia?

I mean they've lost over 200,000 troops in ONE AND A HALF YEARS. Putin just sends them to die at rates that would make an Anti-Vietnam hippie spontaneously combust. They may be at 4 Vietnams in 18 months in total losses.

And done with NATO countries + Austrailia, New Zealand, Japan, and South Korea castaway artillery, aircraft, and financial support.

Putin doesn't get his precious buffer. He can have his bitch is Belarus, but it's gotta piss him off that the Polish have a better quality of life now.

He gets to kill all his fodder, brainwash them with bias media, and still eventually have to pack his sh*t and go back to his crappy country..

The 2nd largest miltary in the world JUST GOT ITS ASS KICKED BY A PROXY NATO EXHIBITION IN ACTUAL WORLD DOMINANCE. And I wouldn't really worry about their nukes.

All China can do is sail the few ships they can build by Alaska to puff out their chest a little.

Are you OK .. did you wake up in a sweat after having a bad dream and decided to post your rambling thoughts on ATS to clear your head.

It's OK now it was a confused and muddled recollection, and the curry last night probably didn't help

Go make yourself a milky drink and forget those stupid thoughts that popped into your head .. non of those crazy, dozy headed bumblings are even remotely close to reality so don't worry .. your safe.

Right back to bed and don't worry your little head about anything.

Night night.

originally posted by: Saloon
a reply to: Oldcarpy2

I provided access to the site only to show the clock sweetheart.

Do you actually believe that to be a souce that isn't just parroting mainstream
tabloids. There's an obvious shadow of desparation in your post.

with liberal and 3rd way politics espoused by left/right in name only groups in the us/uk/canada circling a form of actual fascism in the face of imminent decline, a decline not seen since the mid 20s early 30s, a decline that gave the rise to nazism, fascism and Stalinism..

we are at one of the tipping points where liberalism and imperialism are in obvious death throes hence the voices out to defend their empire/imperialist views..

In we're either facing a modern reformation or a soviet like fall changes that'll do more harm to Putin, Iran, China than this war could as it opens the door to letting go of the new liberalism and new imperialism shackling the west to perpetual instability, war and decline..

a reply to: Quintilian

Someone thinks Hollywood movies are a real legit history lesson and has never actually had a real WW2 history lesson!

a reply to: Quintilian

The one where the US had to come to their rescue.

Do you mean The US that only exists in the first place because of Britain ?

Yes i think you mean that one.

originally posted by: Mahogany
a reply to: carewemust


Logistically, makes sense to train people on their own soil, in areas that are safe from enemy fire.

Has clearly never slept in a ""green zone". Nor ate chow in flak vest..

originally posted by: Saloon
a reply to: Oldcarpy2

I provided access to the site only to show the clock sweetheart.


Do you actually believe that to be a souce that isn't just parroting mainstream
tabloids. There's an obvious shadow of desparation in your post.

It's your source.

No wonder you didn't quote from it!

a reply to: CrawlingChaos

we can say the ignorance of history has the ranks marching outside the uks conservative conference in their black shirts, masks and red flags utterly oblivious to history.

the militarisation of the camps is all very 1920s/30s.. fake working class, fake socialists and fake communists will end up swept into fascist ranks or worse swept into Nazi or Stalinist ranks..

it really does look like those who fail to learn from history are doomed to repeat it, this kind of militaristic show of force to intimidate and silence is the natural evolution of the idea of no debate thats permeated the west, the worst is it'll be used by Putin to prove the wests is descending into Nazism..

originally posted by: nancyliedersdeaddog
a reply to: CriticalStinker

Not only that but Trump was supportive of using the US military in some capacity to help Ukraine. Like so many other issues trump is all over the place

That he did, he implied the US should have run drone operations.

Who knows what he would have done if he was in power while this happened.

originally posted by: JAY1980


I feel 6 plus years of anti-Russian sentiment has preprogrammed you all to automatically hate anything and anyone Russian? Because that's certainly what it looks like from where I sit.

Personal I feel they should draft every person like yourself first. The people who have been beating the drums of war for the establishment since the start of this should be the first to sacrifice themselves for this cause.

This is a large part of the problem at least in the US. Trump hurt a lot of feelings here, and the people with the most hurt feelings believe Putin installed Trump (back when it was okay to question the result of elections, ya know?) despite that having been debunked for years.

People generally like to believe whatever makes them feel better. So the narrative that we're sticking it to Putin is what they want to believe. And they'll gladly sacrifice thousands, eventually millions of European lives and billions of dollars to make themselves feel better. The map posted on the previous page shows pretty clearly we're accomplishing nothing. The front line is pretty much stable. There's little changes here and there, but that's all, and it's been like that all year.

But that map will be ignored as "Russian propaganda," despite the source being the New York Times.

Also, the Doomsday Clock is useless. Look at the credentials of the people who run it and their history of releases. They're more concerned about climate change than they are about nuclear war. It's not a serious organization.

a reply to: CriticalStinker
I would like to remind you people say things at certain times (Trump) but when other information comes along they can change their opinions 100 degrees. A very nice example for you:- a certain F D Roosevelt POTUS kept telling the US government "we will not enter WW2", even virtually all American citizens agreed with him. Till, Till December 7th 1941, then, then he changed his mind.

Hundreds of thousands of fighting age Ukrainians have fled to Poland. Zelenski has tightened the borders down to stop others leaving and has asked the Polish government to round up all those men and return them to Ukraine. Poland has refused and told Zelenski that no more money or arms are coming from Poland. They can a last see that they were being used by NATO.
PS. What makes anyone think that Zelenski is in Ukraine. His time is up and he will be looking for "asylum" somewhere. Probably in his Florida mansion or his Israeli mansion or his lake side "chalet" in Switzerland Or it could be his luxury yacht the last I heard was in Monaco.

a reply to: crayzeed

I would like to remind you people say things at certain times (Trump) but when other information comes along they can change their opinions 100 degrees.

Of course many of us have a fluid world view that changes with the events (which is good). But my point was his view at the beginning of the crisis highlights we don’t know what he would have done if he was in power while it happened.

Hundreds of thousands of fighting age Ukrainians have fled to Poland. Zelenski has tightened the borders down to stop others leaving and has asked the Polish government to round up all those men and return them to Ukraine. Poland has refused and told Zelenski that no more money or arms are coming from Poland. They can a last see that they were being used by NATO. PS. What makes anyone think that Zelenski is in Ukraine. His time is up and he will be looking for "asylum" somewhere. Probably in his Florida mansion or his Israeli mansion or his lake side "chalet" in Switzerland Or it could be his luxury yacht the last I heard was in Monaco.

That’s weird, because Poland is at least publicly only talking about the grain deal being a point of contention.

Got any sources on Zelenskyy’s properties and Yacht? I just tried looking it up, and it shouldn’t be hard considering it’s public record and there have been pandora papers and such that should show hidden assets.

here's a last entry in the six volume set.
Tbh I haven't read the entire volume.
I don't know what to make of it all....I'm usually a pretty good figurer-outerer.
So the spirit moved me to share it in this thread.

originally posted by: MisguidedAngel

originally posted by: WingDingLuey
nato could have stopped the bs in ukraine in 48 hours

wonder why they didn't

now look at ww3 starting

No, TRUMP could have stopped the bs in Ukraine in 48 hours. Wait, there would have been no BS had Trump not been cheated out of his 2nd term 👹👌

that 2

originally posted by: AngryCymraeg

originally posted by: bobs_uruncle

originally posted by: NorthOfStuffx2
a reply to: carewemust

The Ukraine has been winning for AGES now.

I wonder why the Brits are going there…

Maybe for the victory celebration?

I almost fell off my chair at the legion laughing. Russia if they choose can squash the Ukraine like a bug. You're a funny guy lol

Cheers - Dave

Really? Really??? You seriously think that? They've been fighting their genocidal, land-grab of a war for a year and half now, Kyiv is beyond their reach, Kharkiv is beyond their reach, the attempt on Odessa was stillborn from the start, the Black Sea Fleet has run away, they're buying shells from North Korea - you really think that Russia's a great military power? Russia's Army is a hollow shell, stuck together with packing tape, unable to advance very far, reeling from defeat after defeat, led by the corrupt and the incompetent.
I almost fell off my chair laughing at your ludicrous claim. Get some better information.

I'm laughing harder, stop, I have to hook up a Neutron and a K2 tonight to a 61SL and a PHM3000....lol

All Putin has to do is use a bit a DEW, maybe a rail gun, etc. Hell, he could drop a neutron bomb. These are things the Zelensky actor cum political @ssclown doesn't have, that could wipe out his troops in a heartbeat. So please, Ukraine ROFL, that's like saying the Canadian troops can go against the US and win.

Keep pushing that narrative eh lol

Cheers - Dave

originally posted by: stevieray

originally posted by: bobs_uruncle

originally posted by: NorthOfStuffx2
a reply to: carewemust

The Ukraine has been winning for AGES now.

I wonder why the Brits are going there…

Maybe for the victory celebration?

I almost fell off my chair at the legion laughing. Russia if they choose can squash the Ukraine like a bug. You're a funny guy lol

Cheers - Dave

Yeah, there’s got to be financial and power motives for Putin, to not have just obliterated Ukraine for a laugh. Stringing it along has to be benefiting him somehow.
Just like US politicians and the cartels. We could make them go “poof” in a 24-hour operation. But the money in human trafficking, drug selling, child selling, sex slaving, is too big on both sides of the border.

Of course there's an advantage, he's draining the west and making them look like absolute idiots at the same time. Putin is in the Kentucky Derby running a placer and the US is backing a donkey poser. Meanwhile, in bizarro world people are beginning to notice, something just isn't right about this "war." Putin is the big bad powerful enemy, but 'Murica and the rest of the idiot west just keep backing the candy-coated turd Zelensky.

There is only one reason for these political clowns to back Zelensky, it's called extortion and for the people in the cheap seats, blackmail. It will eventually come out and all these fools supporting Zelensky will crumple up like cheap suit and crawl back under their rocks until the MSM feeds them a new cause, a new enemy lol.

Read Spiteful Mutants by Edward Dutton, it explains why people are so screwed up. If you search for Spiteful mutants edward dutton pdf and anna archives on duckduckgo you'll find it. It will open your eyes!

Cheers - Dave

If you followed what was happening in Yugoslavia back in the day, it might hint to how the Ukraine ends up.

a reply to: Freeborn

I was just reading through this and was about to say the same thing.

Haven't some people realised yet that Hollywood is fiction? Ha ha

a reply to: Oldcarpy2

No wonder you didn't quote from it!

Wow, do you catch on fast or what?

a reply to: nickyw

with liberal and 3rd way politics espoused by left/right in name only groups in the us/uk/canada circling a form of actual fascism in the face of imminent decline, a decline not seen since the mid 20s early 30s, a decline that gave the rise to nazism, fascism and Stalinism..

we are at one of the tipping points where liberalism and imperialism are in obvious death throes hence the voices out to defend their empire/imperialist views..

In we're either facing a modern reformation or a soviet like fall changes that'll do more harm to Putin, Iran, China than this war could as it opens the door to letting go of the new liberalism and new imperialism shackling the west to perpetual instability, war and decline..

Had to repost this because I could never write with such eloquence.

For instance here's the way i would try to convey the same point.

with liberal and 3rd way politics espoused by left/right in name only groups in the us/uk/canada circling a form of actual fascism in the face of imminent decline, a decline not seen since the mid 20s early 30s, a decline that gave the rise to nazism, fascism and Stalinism..

Only a spoiled godless selfish child would support the destruction
of everything so many sacrificed their lives to give us. I could never
think God unjust to condemn such to even more than an eternity in
the deepes hottest furnace in hell.

But sadly it's not my call.