The United Kingdom Will Begin Deploying Troops to the Ukraine vs Russia War Zone.

a reply to: gortex

Your map could use a little more perspective .. if you pull away, you will notice that 'Bradly Square', as it has become known due to the vast number of ex Bradly fighting vehicles smouldering on the battlefield, you will see that it represents a mouse bite out of the frontline. After 4 months of fighting and having lost over 73,000 troops and over 7000 units of fighting machines since June 4th it is not looking anything like progress.

The total landmass gained by Russia is still growing as they make progress in the Liman direction. They have taken more land since the start of the Ukrainian offensive than Kiev has recovered. The front line is destined to collapse now that Russia has destroyed all the bridges across the northern rivers, trapping Ukrainian troops cut off from supplies east of the river creating a critical situation.

Looking at the battlefield from above, it appears like a Sailient to Ukraines advantage until you pull away further and see it for what it is .. a cauldron just like Bakhmut .. another meat grinder.

This is what attrition looks like and is why Russia cannot loose the battle. Ukraine needs to negotiate NOW before more poor people die for Bidens war against Russia.

originally posted by: NorthOfStuffx2
a reply to: carewemust

The Ukraine has been winning for AGES now.

Yep, especially according to the british propganda agency (formerly known as "british secret service") , in the german propaganda MSM. They tell us since months that the russians are nearly defeated, that they are out of ammo and soldiers, that their moral is down, that whole russia is instable, that the sanctions kill russia and help the sanctioners...

But that´s how it is when War is Peace, Freedom is Slavery, Ignorance is Strength.

a reply to: AngryCymraeg

Really? Your god likes people who commit horrific war crimes like mass rape and murder, steal anything that's not nailed down and which throws raw recruits with no training and rifles from the 1890's into battle?
The Russian Army is running out of half-decent equipment. Putin's desperate now, his short victorious war has humiliated him.
Are you sure that you haven't gotten things mixed up in terms of your mythical entities?

Satans minions always reverse the truth in an 'anti' sort of way .. but we ALL get that now.

Cheers

a reply to: Quintilian

Helps explain why the Ukraine is losing.....

Your point?
Please elaborate.

a reply to: kennyb72

Ukraine needs to negotiate NOW before more poor people die for Bidens war against Russia.

You mean surrender ? , don't think that's going to happen as it is Russia who are on the back foot low on ammunition , supplies and morale.

Yeah I remember February 22 when Biden invaded Ukraine ... oh sorry that was that Putin wasn't it.

originally posted by: gortex

originally posted by: Quintilian
a reply to: carewemust

Britain has provided five-week military training courses to around 20,000 Ukrainians over the past year, and intends to train a similar number going forward.

Helps explain why the Ukraine is losing.....

Ukraine are making steady progress in reclaiming their territory , if you choose to call that losing that speaks more about you than who is training them.

Touched a nerve hey? The Brits have been the world's '"Neville nobody's" for longer than I can recall. Only for being US poodles/lap dogs they would be as irrelevant as they are insignificant.

But you keep listening to those "stenographers for the State Dept." (aka western media). The Ukraine is going to win any day now I tells ya!

Strangely one side has annexed an extra 90,000 sq kms (with more to come eventually), no shortage of weapons, large reserve force waiting, air superiority, a better economy than much of Europe (including UK) and a leadership that has seemed remarkably stable (how has the UK leadership fared recently, asking for a friend lol).

But no... the side that has none of this and whose economic and political collapse is guaranteed the moment biden calls time...these ones have taken a farming community in the grey zone here or there (at great cost) so they are "hardly losing".

The counter offensive is an utter failure. As failed as the comedians latest begging expedition where he publicly cheered on a literal Ukrainian Nazi for his WW2 service.

Reality is like bullets to the Hulk for some people. There isn't even an alternate universe where the Ukraine were going to win this. This was never really the US's aim anyway.

a reply to: AngryCymraeg

So the UK is sending troops to the war zone because Ukraine is winning?

Do I have that right?

Well now it all makes perfect sense.

originally posted by: Saloon
a reply to: AngryCymraeg

So the UK is sending troops to the war zone because Ukraine is winning?

Do I have that right?

Well now it all makes perfect sense.

Just because a side is "winning" does not mean that it doesn't require support.
Strategic support is often provided to the "winning" side in order to maintain that status.

a reply to: gortex

You mean surrender ? , don't think that's going to happen as it is Russia who are on the back foot low on ammunition , supplies and morale.

Yes surrender rather than die .. Why is that hard to accept?.

Knowing what I know now, Ukraine would serve its people better under Russian management than Western. If they love their children, freedom, financial certainty and a decent life away from the perversions that have infested western zeitgeist, then a more traditional Slavic lifestyle would be their best bet.

Russia has just taken possession of North Korea's cache of 155mm rounds .. millions of pieces. Kim is 'all in' including millions of troops if needed. NK It's only a train ride away. China is a train ride away. Russia is providing free grain to Africa so not really too worried about supplies and moral has never been higher with Putins having over 75% approval.

Putin doesn't care about NATO, he has faced off against the Wests weapons and whooped them. It is NATO countries that need to start assessing their situation, given that Europes armies are decimated and have no weapons left after giving them away to Zelensky to waste on the proxy war. Don't hire a comedian to lead your country into war. Oh! wait a moment .. that's describes Johnson perfectly. You need to get an opinion instead of parroting other peoples.

a reply to: kennyb72

There is no way in hell that Kim will send his half-starved slaves to die in Ukraine. It's not happening and if anyone tells you otherwise then tell them to get that head trauma of theirs treated.
Your assertation that Ukraine should surrender because the Russians will treat them well left me gobsmacked. Why do you think that that Ukrainians are fighting so hard? They know what rule from the bloodstained scum in Moscow is like. Did you read about the war crimes North of Kyiv in the failed Russian advance there in 2022? All the deaths? The rapes? The pointless murders? Putin's enemies keep mysteriously falling out of windows or getting poisoned, do you really think that the Ukrainians wouldn't have their entire intelligentsia and other leaders wiped out if Moscow gets its bloodied claws on the whole country?
Your entire post is astonishingly delusional.

originally posted by: Kreeate

originally posted by: Muldar

originally posted by: Kreeate

originally posted by: WingDingLuey
nato could have stopped the bs in ukraine in 48 hours

Source for this claim please?

He doesn't need a source for his/her personal opinion.

Going around asking for sources on personal opinions disrupts conversations.

It was not an opinion. It was a definitive statement about the efficiency and speed of NATO, which I questioned.
Go away now.

It was still an opinion provided by the other member for which he didn't need a link. Even for a statement you don't need a link or for stating facts or common sense. We don't chat with links by the way.

a reply to: Muldar

Well, Russia's sure as hell not winning the war. Clinging desperately on to trench lines as your navy flees Sevastopol is not advancing in any way, shape or form.
I think that all the RUSSIA STRONK! people need to realise that their idea of the Russian Army being invincible is a load of fetid dingoes kidneys. The Russians are paying a very heavy price for decades of corruption and horrific mismanagement. The fact that the only halfway effective troops that they had were the Wagner mercenaries says everything about the true state of the Russian Army right now.

a reply to: gortex

Come again?




One Map Summarizes Status Of Ukraine War & Russia's Strategy

A new map and series of infographics created and published by The New York Times on Thursday shows a stalemated frontline stretching from southern Ukraine and across the entire east of the country. It also underscores that Russia exercises control over the vast majority of the territories of Donetsk, Kherson, Luhansk, and Zaporizhzhia—which was a stated goal of Putin's war aims.

The Times finds that "Less territory changed hands in August than in any other month of the war" and that "While Ukraine made small gains in the south, Russia took slightly more land overall, mostly in the northeast." And in total, the report says, "When both sides’ gains are added up, Russia now controls nearly 200 square miles more territory in Ukraine compared with the start of the year."

a reply to: AngryCymraeg

I'm sorry but none of the above makes the least bit of sense, unless you genuinely think that Russia is supported by a mythical deity that loves bloodshed.

God still loves you .. I struggle with that a bit!