Has Trump warped Evangelicals or have Evangelicals created Trump ?

originally posted by: maferoxy
a reply to: WolfPants

I totally hear you. It's just baffling how some folks who claim to follow Christ's teachings can support leaders like Trump, whose actions often seem completely contrary to the principles of love, tolerance, and understanding.

And yeah, you're absolutely right about the whole mix of religion and politics in the U.S. It's like some leaders have forgotten the idea of the separation of church and state. Trump's time in office, no matter which side of the political spectrum you're on, seemed to heighten these divisions rather than bridge them. I think a lot of people, myself included, don't believe his impact on the U.S. was a positive one.

It's just a reminder of how crucial it is to be mindful of who we choose as our leaders and what values they stand for. We need leaders who promote unity, not division.

in that case, looks at us politics, so thats no one then..

originally posted by: highvein

originally posted by: WolfPants

originally posted by: nickyw
a reply to: WolfPants

no such thing as either a moderate or centrist the extreme end of liberalism is a merger of capitalism/socialism and a return to slavery/serfdom.. we saw that when liberalism died in the 1920s with Nazism, fascism and Stalinism opportunistically taking liberalism to its natural conclusion..

Then what do you call Scandinavian governments then ? Are the failures too ?

Let me get this straight. You are opposed to MAGA because you see it as a throwback to when the system was only working for white men, and then you point to other white countries on how things should be run. Lefties...it's like they don't even listen to what they themselves say, let alone their political opponents.

Yes , white Scandinavians didn’t import 500 thousand black slaves into their countries like America did .
Sweden had around 2000 slaves prior to 1865 .
Huge difference

originally posted by: DAVID64
a reply to: WolfPants

The lefts has radicals for sure , but Trump & his right wing nationalist cult is a danger to our Constitution & Country.

That one sentence show me 2 things.

You claim to hate both sides but obviously lean hard to the Left, finding excuses for the behavior and 2nd, you are woefully ignorant about the motives of the Right.

"armed to the teeth"

Yes. Yes we are.

ETA - You call ANTIFA just youthful rebellion, but if it was a group from the Right that was burning and looting, it would be called Right Wing Domestic Terrorists !! A Threat To Our Democracy !! and there would be calls from the Left to round them and throw them in jail. The Left won't even admit ANTIFA exists and if they do, they, like you, find excuse to overlook their acts of terrorism.

here you go www.justice.gov...
www.usatoday.com...
Please correct your thoughts

originally posted by: CoyoteAngels
a reply to: WolfPants

Curious why you would post a politics thread then. Trying to pursuade others when you don't play the game yourself?

I hate hypocrisy , thus my thread exists

originally posted by: highvein

originally posted by: CoyoteAngels
a reply to: highvein

What country didn't let blacks vote 58 years ago?

I don't know. Black people could vote in the U.S. well before 58 years ago.

Civil rights act passed in 1965 by LBJ made it Federal. Until then many States restricted or prohibited Blacks from voting. 103 years ago women couldn’t vote .
This is all basic middle school US history 101.

a reply to: WolfPants

That is not true. Blacks and women were grated the right to vote with the 14th amendment. Some states still didn't allow women, so the 19th made it explicit.

This was 1870 and 1919

None of this was 58 years ago. You simplied lied about that. And you got called out.

a reply to: WolfPants

You are incorrect. LBJ removed black fathers and destroyed the black family and thus blacks place in American society.

He knew it too.

Where the hell did you go to school?

originally posted by: TheBoomersRBusted
a reply to: WolfPants

Excellent title and question. Thank you.

No problem, as you can see the truth sure upsets people.

a reply to: maferoxy

Because we aren't voting for Pope or Dali Lama?

That's how. Its what belongs to Caesar.

A broken sinner. Not a saint. So what?

Let you among you cast the first stone.

I'm not gonna judge. He seems as decent as anyone I've ever dated. Better than one I married.

Boys will be boys and alpha boys will be alpha boys, and beta boys will hate them. Thank goodness the tribe has some.

It is known.

a reply to: WolfPants

Funny how you don't vote, so you get to avoid it.

Dont participate, nobody cares what you think. Only you are impressed. And cowardly.

Get off your high horse. Hubris just meeans people laugh harder when you fall.

originally posted by: maferoxy
a reply to: WolfPants

I totally hear you. It's just baffling how some folks who claim to follow Christ's teachings can support leaders like Trump, whose actions often seem completely contrary to the principles of love, tolerance, and understanding.

And yeah, you're absolutely right about the whole mix of religion and politics in the U.S. It's like some leaders have forgotten the idea of the separation of church and state. Trump's time in office, no matter which side of the political spectrum you're on, seemed to heighten these divisions rather than bridge them. I think a lot of people, myself included, don't believe his impact on the U.S. was a positive one.

It's just a reminder of how crucial it is to be mindful of who we choose as our leaders and what values they stand for. We need leaders who promote unity, not division.

Trump & Biden are both human turds . Why any Christian votes is beyond me , oh yeah they want theocracy

originally posted by: CoyoteAngels
a reply to: WolfPants

Yeah, and I'll call with a Talib, a Maxine Waters, Omar and raise you an AOC

Where did you get that poll? I sincerely doubt it. Unless you polled Islamics.

Whenever someone gets aggro about their elders, I just laugh and laugh.

You'll get to experience it soon enough, unless you flame out of here sooner.

Either way, I find amusing.

MAGA Baby. Greatest human endeavor ever accomplished and can return to greatness, if you Marxist fools don't destroy it.

when did I say the left DOSENT have nut cases in it’s ranks.
Go back and carefully read my opening post . You will see that I find both political party members who call themselves Christians to be hypocrites.
You only see what inflames you & that is a weakness

a reply to: pthena

When Trump starts acting like the Pope or the Dali Lama or even Jim Jones, will you let me know?

Until then, he is just running for POTUS. After having been a pretty good one for 4 years.... better than current.

a reply to: WolfPants

You stated some little such for plausible deniablitly but your comment I answered was only critical of the right.

So that doesn't work. I'm responding to the post as written, not anything else you may have said earlier. Who are you that I'd remember?

a reply to: WolfPants

I'm against anyone trashing the US Constitution.

You might want to point out to me where is states separation of church and state in the Constitution.