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Trump Committed Fraud By Inflating His Assets, Judge Rules

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posted on Sep, 28 2023 @ 02:13 PM
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a reply to: matafuchs

I never said Ivanka flipped. But there's enough breadcrumbs that may lead Trump to think she flipped.



posted on Sep, 28 2023 @ 02:18 PM
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originally posted by: matafuchs
Now you all think Ivanka flipped? OMG. You are all toooooo much. Then throw in a Mary Trump quote..... What a fantasy world you live in.



Does it say she flipped?

NO. It doesn't.

Mary Trump says: "She MIGHT flip".



posted on Sep, 28 2023 @ 02:22 PM
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This sure implies someone is flipping......

Uhm.....what does this mean then?



Threadbare - I wonder if Trump is starting to doubt the loyalty of his eldest daughter.


and



Annee - Ivanka Trump might flip on her dad because she has more to lose, Mary Trump says: 'Her husband's family is legitimately very wealthy'


You guys could give Jamie Raskin a run for his money.....



posted on Sep, 28 2023 @ 02:29 PM
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"is starting to doubt?" & "might"

But, Hey! Blow that drama up.



posted on Sep, 28 2023 @ 02:39 PM
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originally posted by: RazorV66

originally posted by: Mahogany

originally posted by: spacedoubt
Tomorrow he avoids questions at the debate...


They're right for calling him a coward for doing that.

He's like a kid outside a Karate dojo, doing air kicks and punches, looking through the window at the stronger kids who are getting punched in their mouths. He's just too scared to go in.

He just tells everyone he's taking Karate.

A coward.


What are you going to do when he gets elected?
Will you leave the country for real this time?


Hey, did you know Russia is building a town for Trump loving Americans!

Have you applied for your visa yet?



posted on Sep, 28 2023 @ 02:48 PM
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Can the banks and insurance companies trump did business with sue?



posted on Sep, 28 2023 @ 02:50 PM
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originally posted by: knoxie
Can the banks and insurance companies trump did business with sue?


One would think -- if deals were made on fraudulent numbers.



posted on Sep, 28 2023 @ 03:35 PM
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originally posted by: spacedoubt
a reply to: asabuvsobelow

It’s already decided,

So, you've never heard of something called an Appeal...



posted on Sep, 28 2023 @ 03:36 PM
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a reply to: Annee

One would think they would be most concerned with the loans being paid. Were'nt they?



posted on Sep, 28 2023 @ 03:40 PM
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originally posted by: Threadbare
a reply to: PurpleFox

Once again it was a summary judgment. The prosecution presented such overwhelming evidence that the judge felt comfortable making a ruling. Also, there was never going to be a jury. When Trump's lawyers filed their paperwork for the case they requested a bench trial.

Sure, so they can get the charade over quickly and win everything on appeal.

But you go ahead and enjoy it while you can, the tears ore coming...



posted on Sep, 28 2023 @ 03:48 PM
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a reply to: Annee

Drama it up? You both implied it not me.



posted on Sep, 28 2023 @ 03:51 PM
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a reply to: CoyoteAngels

Amazing how one guy can take out million dollar loans and pay them back and he is a criminal but the guy who has money wired from foreign nationals to his own house is not.

The opinion was released to create the media blitz. There will still be a trial, and then, an appeal I am sure.

The local ATS legal experts just seem to not be grasping it.
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posted on Sep, 28 2023 @ 04:09 PM
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originally posted by: Connector

So no links for your claim. And you expect me to prove a a negative. Typical.


You randomly demanded me to provide you with information, why should I care as you were not the person I replied to? I'm not here to please you, sorry. As I said, if you really cared and the work I invested would not just be wasted you would already know. Your efforts to me are small one-liners, so I'll do the same back.
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posted on Sep, 28 2023 @ 04:13 PM
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originally posted by: Astyanax

Another poor soul throws his moral compass overboard because Trump told him to.


I didn't vote for Trump... All this really isn't about Trump anyway, he will come and go and we will all move on, BUT the left in their insanity will still be here. Throwing in a term like a moral compass is a joke right? The left wouldn't know what one was even if it bit them in the ass.

Go back and read a small example of what the so-called moral compass of the left has been doing and then get back to me.



posted on Sep, 28 2023 @ 04:17 PM
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originally posted by: WolfPants

It’s a win for the tax payers of New York . It’s a win for justice, America & Earth . Donny Trump is garbage.


If he over valued his building then that means he paid more taxes right...lol You all can't even get your own stories right.

Why is it I could name off at least 10 horrendous events Biden has done so far and that means nothing to you, but damn if Trump overvalued a build...lol

Do you all ever listen to yourselves talk this crap?



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posted on Sep, 28 2023 @ 04:29 PM
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originally posted by: matafuchs
a reply to: Annee

Drama it up? You both implied it not me.


And you're trying to make it a statement.



posted on Sep, 28 2023 @ 04:43 PM
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originally posted by: Xtrozero

originally posted by: WolfPants

It’s a win for the tax payers of New York . It’s a win for justice, America & Earth . Donny Trump is garbage.


If he over valued his building then that means he paid more taxes right...lol You all can't even get your own stories right.






WRONG. He overvalued as a basis to get loans, but UNDERVALUED to avoid taxes. A loss for the taxpayers.



posted on Sep, 28 2023 @ 04:45 PM
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21 pages in, I missed this.

Is this literally worse than Hitler and 9/11?

Asking so that I can clutch some pearls.

*swoons*



posted on Sep, 28 2023 @ 04:52 PM
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originally posted by: TheBoomersRBusted

WRONG. He overvalued as a basis to get loans, but UNDERVALUED to avoid taxes. A loss for the taxpayers.


Can you undervalue your house to get lower taxes? Can you suggest your 400k house is worth 5 million to get 4 million in an equity loan? They threw this out years ago and here we go again. I'm going to tell you my house is worth 50 million, hell, I can put it on the market for 50 million, not illegal. Also, any loans he got were paid off too.

Here is what NYC does each year...



The Department of Finance assigns market values to all properties in New York City based on the property’s tax class and the requirements of New York State Law1. The valuation process varies depending on the type of property:

One, two, or three-unit residential properties: The Department of Finance uses statistical modeling to analyze prices of similar properties (based on factors such as size and location) that sold in your neighborhood in the prior 3 years1.
Residential property with more than three units, including cooperatives and condominiums: These properties are valued as income-producing based on their income and expenses. A statistical model is used to find typical income and expenses for similar properties, which are then applied to determine the market value1.
Utility company equipment and special franchise property: The Department of Finance uses the cost of constructing, reproducing, or replacing the building added to the land value1.
Other real property, such as office buildings, factories, stores, hotels, and lofts: The Department of Finance uses the property’s income-earning potential and expenses. Estimated annual income is based on information provided by property owners on the annual Real Property Income and Expense (RPIE) Filing. Statistical modeling is also used in this process.
For more information about determining your market value, you can visit the official NYC.gov website.

Please note that all New York City properties are assessed and valued each year by the Department of Finance. Property owners receive an Annual Notice of Property Value (NOPV) every January, which provides the latest determination of a property’s values, including market value and assessed value.



posted on Sep, 28 2023 @ 04:52 PM
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originally posted by: TheBoomersRBusted

originally posted by: Xtrozero

originally posted by: WolfPants

It’s a win for the tax payers of New York . It’s a win for justice, America & Earth . Donny Trump is garbage.


If he over valued his building then that means he paid more taxes right...lol You all can't even get your own stories right.






WRONG. He overvalued as a basis to get loans, but UNDERVALUED to avoid taxes. A loss for the taxpayers.


I do that too. Very common. Only those "targeted" for some reason, get called out for it.



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