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Democrats Lie About Their Abortion Stance After Donald Trump Exposes How Radical They Are.

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posted on Sep, 18 2023 @ 09:57 PM
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a reply to: carewemust




I have NEVER heard Democrats explain why allowing states to determine abortion rules/regulations makes them so angry.


Yes you have. You just refuse to admit that Roe V Wade acknowledged a woman's constitutional right to reproductive choice, and that the Dodd ruling revoked a woman's constitutional to reproductive choice and gave it to elected state legislators.

Face it though, you don't like it being a states' right any more than I do. You want a federal ban on abortion. You don't want the people deciding through their votes. You don't want states like New York and California to offer safe and legal abortions. You want to go further and ban abortion on a federal level.
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posted on Sep, 18 2023 @ 09:59 PM
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originally posted by: Sookiechacha
a reply to: carewemust




I have NEVER heard Democrats explain why allowing states to determine abortion rules/regulations makes them so angry.


Yes you have. You just refuse to admit that Roe V Wade acknowledged a woman's constitutional right to reproductive choice. The Dodd ruling revoked a woman's constitutional to reproductive choice and gave it to elected state legislators.

Face it though, you don't like it being a states' right any more than I do. You want a federal ban on abortion. You don't want the people deciding through their votes. You don't want states like New York and California to offer safe and legal abortions. You want to go further and ban abortion on a federal level.


Now explain to me how democracy works.



posted on Sep, 18 2023 @ 10:00 PM
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a reply to: DBCowboy




That's just a damned lie.


And....you know that HOW?



posted on Sep, 18 2023 @ 10:01 PM
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a reply to: Sookiechacha




Yes you have. You just refuse to admit that Roe V Wade acknowledged a woman's constitutional right to reproductive choice, and that the Dodd ruling revoked a woman's constitutional to reproductive choice and gave it to elected state legislators.


Are you admitting here that women have zero bodily autonomy prior to conceiving a child?

Because that's what it reads as.....



posted on Sep, 18 2023 @ 10:02 PM
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originally posted by: Sookiechacha
a reply to: carewemust




I have NEVER heard Democrats explain why allowing states to determine abortion rules/regulations makes them so angry.


Yes you have. You just refuse to admit that Roe V Wade acknowledged a woman's constitutional right to reproductive choice, and that the Dodd ruling revoked a woman's constitutional to reproductive choice and gave it to elected state legislators.

Face it though, you don't like it being a states' right any more than I do. You want a federal ban on abortion. You don't want the people deciding through their votes. You don't want states like New York and California to offer safe and legal abortions. You want to go further and ban abortion on a federal level.


A federal ban on abortion is not practical and would be cruel. Admit it!



posted on Sep, 18 2023 @ 10:05 PM
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a reply to: dandandat2




Now explain to me how democracy works.


Explain to me which of your constitutional rights are voted on.



posted on Sep, 18 2023 @ 10:06 PM
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originally posted by: Sookiechacha
a reply to: DBCowboy




That's just a damned lie.


And....you know that HOW?


Actual facts and data.

Duh.



posted on Sep, 18 2023 @ 10:08 PM
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a reply to: JinMI

I'm say that under Roe v Wade a woman's reproductive choices were a constitutional right. Under Dodd, she no longer has that constitutional right to reproductive choice.



posted on Sep, 18 2023 @ 10:09 PM
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originally posted by: DBCowboy

originally posted by: Sookiechacha
a reply to: DBCowboy




That's just a damned lie.


And....you know that HOW?


Actual facts and data.

Duh.


You have facts and data on women's motives for their choice to abort? And, you know it's malice toward a developing fertilized egg?
Source!? Link!?


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posted on Sep, 18 2023 @ 10:10 PM
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originally posted by: Sookiechacha
a reply to: JinMI

I'm say that under Roe v Wade a woman's reproductive choices were a constitutional right. Under Dodd, she no longer has that constitutional right to reproductive choice.


Constitutional argument, not right.

Oh, and RBG herself tanked your entire premise BTW:


"Roe isn't really about the woman's choice, is it?" Ginsburg told the University of Chicago Law School in May 2013. "It's about the doctor's freedom to practice...it wasn't woman-centered, it was physician-centered."



posted on Sep, 18 2023 @ 10:12 PM
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originally posted by: Sookiechacha

originally posted by: DBCowboy

originally posted by: Sookiechacha
a reply to: DBCowboy




That's just a damned lie.


And....you know that HOW?


Actual facts and data.

Duh.


You have facts and data on women's motives for their choice to abort? And, you know it's malice toward a developing fertilized egg?
Source!? Link!?



What else would you call it?

And you're ignoring all the other posts offering actual data.



posted on Sep, 18 2023 @ 10:13 PM
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a reply to: JinMI




Constitutional argument, not right.


Don't pee on my leg and then tell me it's the rain.
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In a historic and far-reaching decision, the U.S. Supreme Court officially reversed Roe v. Wade on Friday, declaring that the constitutional right to abortion, upheld for nearly a half century, no longer exists.

www.npr.org...

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posted on Sep, 18 2023 @ 10:13 PM
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a reply to: Sookiechacha

Cool opinion, you even found someone who shares it.


Show me in the Constitution the right to an abortion....I'll wait.

ETA:

From your source:

Alito's 78-page opinion, which has a 30-page appendix, seemingly leaves no authority uncited as support for the proposition that there is no inherent right to privacy or personal autonomy in various provisions of the Constitution — and similarly, no evidence that peoples' reliance on the court's abortion precedents over the past half century should matter.

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posted on Sep, 18 2023 @ 10:14 PM
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a reply to: DBCowboy




What else would you call it?


Self-preservation



posted on Sep, 18 2023 @ 10:17 PM
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a reply to: JinMI




Show me in the Constitution the right to an abortion....I'll wait.


Show me it says you have a right to marry.
Show it where it says that a fetus is a person.



posted on Sep, 18 2023 @ 10:20 PM
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originally posted by: Sookiechacha
a reply to: JinMI




Show me in the Constitution the right to an abortion....I'll wait.


Show me it says you have a right to marry.
Show it where it says that a fetus is a person.



Non sequiturs, but A for effort.

You claimed it was a Constitutional right...sooooooo


...lets see it.



posted on Sep, 18 2023 @ 10:21 PM
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originally posted by: carewemust

originally posted by: Sookiechacha
a reply to: carewemust




I have NEVER heard Democrats explain why allowing states to determine abortion rules/regulations makes them so angry.


Yes you have. You just refuse to admit that Roe V Wade acknowledged a woman's constitutional right to reproductive choice, and that the Dodd ruling revoked a woman's constitutional to reproductive choice and gave it to elected state legislators.

Face it though, you don't like it being a states' right any more than I do. You want a federal ban on abortion. You don't want the people deciding through their votes. You don't want states like New York and California to offer safe and legal abortions. You want to go further and ban abortion on a federal level.


A federal ban on abortion is not practical and would be cruel. Admit it!


Why do you say that? Why isn't a 6 week federal abortion ban practical for everyone if it's practical for Texas women?



posted on Sep, 18 2023 @ 10:21 PM
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a reply to: JinMI




You claimed it was a Constitutional right...sooooooo


SCOTUS claimed it was a Constitutional right.



posted on Sep, 18 2023 @ 10:21 PM
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originally posted by: Sookiechacha
a reply to: dandandat2




Now explain to me how democracy works.


Explain to me which of your constitutional rights are voted on.




All of them in every election.



posted on Sep, 18 2023 @ 10:23 PM
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originally posted by: Sookiechacha
a reply to: JinMI




You claimed it was a Constitutional right...sooooooo


SCOTUS claimed it was a Constitutional right.


No.

NPR did.




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