Russell Brand denies 'serious criminal allegations' he claims are being made against him

originally posted by: Oldcarpy2
a reply to: AlienBorg

Perhaps you should read what I have actually posted?

Borg? Indeed.

Night night, Asmo...I mean , Alienborg?

And you should read what I have posted.

Nowhere I take the position of the mob and the media that have decided Brand is guilty in the absence of any evidence. Some members here have aligned with the online condemnation and they actually believe he is guilty.

I wonder what kind of physical evidence a woman will have after 10-15 years to prove their case. Perhaps they have nothing and try first to preoccupy the British public with a documentary and then bring charges based on the documentary. Any forensic evidence (even if has existed in the past) it has now dissapeared.

It looks like the documentary has conveniently left out stories they were not giving the same account of events...

a reply to: andy06shake

So after 32 pages you came to the conclusion that 'his victims' has spoken out. Therefore you have decided he is guilty in the absence of any detour evidence and have aligned yourself with the online mob and the media that have been continuously accusing him.

They seem to have left a few things out. I mean the documentary you wanted us to watch made things even worse. The brilliant journalists 'forgot' to include the accounts of the women they approached who told them everything was happening between consenting adults.

originally posted by: FlyersFan

originally posted by: andy06shake
And Brand is sure as s@it not possessed.

We don't know that he is or he isn't. Possessed people can act normal much of the time. It would take an official exorcist from the church to make the determination that he's possessed or not. Not us.

I don't they believe in possession and exorcism. Those on the left of the political spectrum distant themselves from the church and its teachings. But they maybe ok with mob justice and media trials and seem to believe that this guy is guilty as he has been found guilty in the mainstream media.

But one of the woman who was interviewed said his eyes were black/dark suggesting possession took place.

originally posted by: Daughter2
a reply to: Kurokage

Speculating is as damaging as a conviction.

This is why if someone did encourage these woman to lie they should face very, very severe consequences.

There are people out there who believe anti-vax people should be killed - I can totally see the same group coming up with false allegations for what they believe to be the greater good.

Spot on!

It has a name: The radical left and the woke!
Those are more likely to believe he is guilty and he must be convicted no matter what for the greater good.

To me this isn't about believing women - it's believing the media.

There are two choice:

A. The media is a group of impartial saints. It just happens to be a coincidence that Russell Brand was taking away their advertising and broadcasting views the higher ups didn't like. Total coincidence. Do nothing for 10 years and then suddenly all this concern. Total coincidence it was timed so these allegations probably will not be resolved before the election.

B. The MSM as they proved themselves to be many times before are a bunch of lying scumbags who saw Brand as a political enemy capable of helping their enemies get elected. The spent years trying to dig up enough dirt and finally found a couple sociopaths (who are about 10% of the population) willing to lie.

I tend not to believe coincidences. I would bet it's B.

originally posted by: Daughter2

originally posted by: Oldcarpy2

By the way, I am a lawyer and real life prosecutor.


😂

So you know just how damaging pre-trial publicity can be to a person - how they can have their life ruined and go through hell all based on a false accusation - You know the danger of formally saying that the person is innocent until proven guilty but talking about them and treating them as if they are guilty.

Shame on you. I'll say a prayer for all the victims of your prosecutions because I know there are probably victims.

Spot on again!!

It seems that someone who claims he is a legal expert has confused things quite a lot and he doesn't even follow the very basic: innocent until proven guilty. My understanding is that he has decided he is guilty and that's very disturbing. There is no evidence apart from a documentary and how on Earth you can find any physical evidence (which is that you need) after 10-15 years. All physical evidence has disappeared by now.

Funny how willing some on ATS are to believe a man who at the time was a sex addicted heroin and drug addict, over several women.

So I guess you’re sympathetic to hunter biden being a recovering addict now also yes?

This place is ridiculous sometimes. The fact that some of you can’t even entertain the idea that this man may be guilty is pathetic. Claiming it’s because of ThE wOkE LeFtiStS when in reality it’s because he parrots things you believe in.

As I’ve already said, giving someone a blank cheque just because you agree with some of their beliefs and opinions is absolutely ridiculous and no better than the teenage boys defending Andrew Tate.

I only hope those who have already condemned these women don’t have wives or daughters, because you don’t deserve them.

a reply to: fencesitter85

I find it hilarious that you are comparing the two and giving deference to one...


Which is the sum and substance of what you're bitching about.

For those of you who said it has nothing to do with the election - you are wrong but here it is:

This this chick Rachel Rachel Gilmore who is all over social media posting that Brand groomed people who watch his youtube channel to deny the truth and these allegations prove it.

Something told me to google her and guess what - she is a known Trudeau supporter who had previously written very negative articles about his opponents.

If you ever watch his channel, Brand was very critical of Trudeau.

originally posted by: JinMI
a reply to: fencesitter85

I find it hilarious that you are comparing the two and giving deference to one...


Which is the sum and substance of what you're bitching about.

Try again. I clearly stated he’s innocent unless and until proven guilty, but that as a drug and sex addict the fact that so many of you have simply decided these women are all lying is sick. You’re blinded by your political beliefs.

a reply to: fencesitter85

Try again.

Ok, I will:

I find it hilarious that you are comparing the two and giving deference to one...


Which is the sum and substance of what you're bitching about.

You’re blinded by your political beliefs.

Says the "fenceitter" who is giving Biden deference in the face of evidence versus Brand with decade plus allegations.....

originally posted by: fencesitter85

originally posted by: JinMI
a reply to: fencesitter85

I find it hilarious that you are comparing the two and giving deference to one...


Which is the sum and substance of what you're bitching about.

Try again. I clearly stated he’s innocent unless and until proven guilty, but that as a drug and sex addict the fact that so many of you have simply decided these women are all lying is sick. You’re blinded by your political beliefs.

You clearly believe he is guilty though.
Being a sex addict or a heroin addict doesn't make you a rapist and so far all there is to this story is a documentary and a media trial.

You say that people have decided these women are lying. Nobody knows whether they're lying or not. But in the courts testimonies and cross examinations are not enough to establish that Brand is guilty of the alleged crimes. You need physical evidence and after 10-15 years the evidence has disappeared.

What happens when you are "high profile" and spill the beans on powerful corrupt leaders.

Russell Brand says what WE SAY on ATS, but he has reach and influence.

Look: gettr.com...

a reply to: fencesitter85

I agree. So much time and energy spent defending this guy. Just like Hunter Biden who falls into the same morally corrupt patterns of behavior. Brand is a self professed sex addict and drug addict? Doesn't scream "innocence" to me.

I'm not precondemning him for rape before he's had his trial but I won't go out of my way to defend a degenerate, either. Even if I agree with some of his current views.

a reply to: Daughter2

If you ever watch his channel, Brand was very critical of Trudeau

OOOOOhhhh! booya! cha ching. Damn Daughter girl you nailed that one!
He's mocked Trudeau hard about his tyranny involving the truckers protest.

a reply to: carewemust

Look: gettr.com...

Bill Maher couldn't even handle Russell once he morphed into an articulated python
go'n off on the elites, big pharma, vaccines and covid all so fluently. He's no heroin
addict any more.

But I'm now convinced of his innocense. Knowing how hardlined he's been lately is
highly compelling. Once again we see a large phenomena of members who can't
get out of the way of their own hate. Good luck on that hopeful conviction.
Wallow in it while you still can.

originally posted by: AlienBorg

originally posted by: fencesitter85

originally posted by: JinMI
a reply to: fencesitter85

I find it hilarious that you are comparing the two and giving deference to one...


Which is the sum and substance of what you're bitching about.

Try again. I clearly stated he’s innocent unless and until proven guilty, but that as a drug and sex addict the fact that so many of you have simply decided these women are all lying is sick. You’re blinded by your political beliefs.

You clearly believe he is guilty though.
Being a sex addict or a heroin addict doesn't make you a rapist and so far all there is to this story is a documentary and a media trial.

You say that people have decided these women are lying. Nobody knows whether they're lying or not. But in the courts testimonies and cross examinations are not enough to establish that Brand is guilty of the alleged crimes. You need physical evidence and after 10-15 years the evidence has disappeared.

Whether I believe it or not I’m openly saying he’s innocent legally until proven guilty.

The difference is that a lot of you people have already decided it’s a conspiracy and he’s innocent.

Partisan nonsense as usual.

a reply to: fencesitter85

The difference is that a lot of you people have already decided it’s a conspiracy and he’s innocent.
Partisan nonsense as usual.

Just when we were running low on CTs from all the old ones coming true.

I like Russel and hope the allegations prove unfounded. Fame can make people behave badly, not just celebrities but fans too.
I think 'why now' , is it because he is currently attacking powerful institutions and people? For the moment I'm on his side and will wait to see what unfolds.

Having scrolled past several pages of arguments.......
This latest is just breaking....
YouTube suspends monetisation of star's chanel

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