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Justice Has Always Been A Pendulum

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posted on Sep, 2 2023 @ 02:28 PM
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originally posted by: psychotrail

originally posted by: DBCowboy

originally posted by: psychotrail

originally posted by: DBCowboy

originally posted by: psychotrail

originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: psychotrail

Lady Justice should always be blind.
Absolutely. You have different thoughts on things DB , any ideas of how to get our DOJ & Courts balanced ?


Revolution.

Are you willing to go that extreme ?


Nope.

I'm old, need the current government, and am a coward.

I'll be "The Good German" and obey even though it'll kill me inside.

I have too many people reliant on me.
So the youth should revolt , because they don’t have families of their own ?


*shrugs*

You asked the question, I answered it.

Our corrupt government won't go quietly into that good night, to coin a phrase.

It is obvious that they are willing to go to great lengths to punish anyone not obedient.



posted on Sep, 2 2023 @ 03:40 PM
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a reply to: psychotrail

Those countries have governments. Corrupt governments. The entire system is corrupted, damaged beyond repair. You can't run from it and you can't fight it by doing the same things we've always done and following the same routines that do nothing but perpetuate the patterns of corruption.



posted on Sep, 2 2023 @ 03:48 PM
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a reply to: TheLieWeLive

If we can't even hold politicians accountable for having their pockets lined with corporate interests, I seriously doubt the politicians will pass laws that hold media accountable.

Likely, it will be up to us to change the media. I watched news this morning and it was terrible. Half the news networks were just pundits giving bias opinions about whatever is trending in the news cycle. Very little actual news. And of all the pundits talking, the only ones with a somewhat honest (but bias) opinion was the The Young Turks. Which, isn't really news but more like a podcast.

I really couldn't believe it. I watched BBC, CNN, Fox, OAN, CBS, and a couple others. They were ALL terrible. Reporting droplets of news for 5 minutes, spending 10 minutes discussing it (not even honest or original opinions), and then 10 minutes of commercials.

News across TV is completely dead. The only way to gather news now is by reading multiple sources. And even that is aweful.

Vivek made a comment about Ayanna Pressley comparing her to the kkk. I went to find out more information about what Ayanna Pressley said to make him say such a sensationalist thing. Yet, I had to scan through 15 articles to finally find what Ayanna Pressley said.

How the hell can you call a journalist and not include important related information? THe reason can only be because they have an agenda to make a republican look as bad as possible.

While Vivek's remarks were over-the-top, Ayanna Pressley basically said that if you're black and not voting a certain way (democrat), then you should not have a voice.

Media can easily inform their audience, but they so clearly make things as confusing as possible so that they can minipulate people towards a direction of thinking.

And I don't know how to make the media better. The older generations (like my parents) still think that news comes from the TV and most of the younger generations (who aren't well-informed) get news snippets from social media that are typically sensational to grab attention.



posted on Sep, 2 2023 @ 03:58 PM
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a reply to: wdkirk

Removing special interests and corporate money from politics would be the biggest game changer of all. Don't allow politicians to invest in the market while they're in office.

And that won't be accomplished until we start voting in politicians who actually want to accomplish this change.

But so many people have blinders on and are voting based on emotion, media minipulation, identity politics, and wedge issues.



posted on Sep, 2 2023 @ 04:55 PM
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originally posted by: NoCorruptionAllowed

originally posted by: psychotrail

originally posted by: nugget1
a reply to: psychotrail




Yes it is unfair , but it doesn’t dismiss Trump’s crimes imo .

Trump has been charged with crimes. Is innocent until proven guilty no longer a think in the US?

Have we, as a society, become so close minded and biased that we no longer require any proof before determining someone is guilty as charged?

Do you have an idea that would help even out our Justice system ?
This thread isn’t about who did what ..
Im calling both parties corrupt.


I have a great idea that would help our entire government. Military goes in and throws them all out, same with all the big MSM companies, military goes in and puts them all out of business. All the ACTUAL liars and people abusing their authority, like current judges, politicians.

Destroy all the voting machines like Dominions cheater systems, use tanks to fire upon them in a big pile at the big garbage dump. Make it very public.

Just like that coup that just happened in Africa, that wasn't really a coup, it was justice being served against liars and cheaters.
No more cheating Dominion voting company, all gone. French revolution style. The liars and cheaters want to use tyranny against the people who oppose them. Off with their heads.

Too scary? Nahhh.
It won't matter soon anyways, Iran and Russia will use nukes against the USA pushed in to it by criminally incompetent American officials. They really do want full hot war with Russia.

Get your house in order.
umm. im a romatic, idealist and an anarchist.....can I join your army too? I already know the moves and I can follow good ideas and I really think it would be fun to get in there with ya. maybe we can train others from the genaral populace to join your army? some of them are pretty upset and that might be a usefull talent to qualify? we dont need rank even. gear, food, various other things we can source on our own to put a little personality into the fight. Im a poet. so if i gotta fight then i wanna epic poem if i make it out the other end. Its just my way of processing horror not a way to stifle being horrific. I might enjoy that, dont know till i find out. every village we see I bet i can add to the ranks aswell. See I just added myself, and you couldnt really say no could you? Ok make me corporal that the only rank I want. I will make that into 2 privates if i have to. where do i line up? and where do we begin?



posted on Sep, 2 2023 @ 08:11 PM
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originally posted by: DBCowboy

originally posted by: psychotrail

originally posted by: DBCowboy

originally posted by: psychotrail

originally posted by: DBCowboy

originally posted by: psychotrail

originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: psychotrail

Lady Justice should always be blind.
Absolutely. You have different thoughts on things DB , any ideas of how to get our DOJ & Courts balanced ?


Revolution.

Are you willing to go that extreme ?


Nope.

I'm old, need the current government, and am a coward.

I'll be "The Good German" and obey even though it'll kill me inside.

I have too many people reliant on me.
So the youth should revolt , because they don’t have families of their own ?


*shrugs*

You asked the question, I answered it.

Our corrupt government won't go quietly into that good night, to coin a phrase.

It is obvious that they are willing to go to great lengths to punish anyone not obedient.
I agree , but wouldn’t Trump just start attacking all kinds of liberals some justly & many others unjustly ?
This gang warfare on Capital Hill needs to stop & living in one ditch to the other is no plan forward imo.
So no other ideas besides revolution ?



posted on Sep, 2 2023 @ 08:24 PM
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originally posted by: psychotrail

originally posted by: DBCowboy

originally posted by: psychotrail

originally posted by: DBCowboy

originally posted by: psychotrail

originally posted by: DBCowboy

originally posted by: psychotrail

originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: psychotrail

Lady Justice should always be blind.
Absolutely. You have different thoughts on things DB , any ideas of how to get our DOJ & Courts balanced ?


Revolution.

Are you willing to go that extreme ?


Nope.

I'm old, need the current government, and am a coward.

I'll be "The Good German" and obey even though it'll kill me inside.

I have too many people reliant on me.
So the youth should revolt , because they don’t have families of their own ?


*shrugs*

You asked the question, I answered it.

Our corrupt government won't go quietly into that good night, to coin a phrase.

It is obvious that they are willing to go to great lengths to punish anyone not obedient.
I agree , but wouldn’t Trump just start attacking all kinds of liberals some justly & many others unjustly ?
This gang warfare on Capital Hill needs to stop & living in one ditch to the other is no plan forward imo.
So no other ideas besides revolution ?


No, Trump doesn't attack anyone unjustly. And he has NEVER drawn first blood (so to speak). Every single time he went after anyone was when they attacked him first, or he was calling out some despicable thing they did. What are we seeing today from them? Despicable acts and lies. Their response is to claim everyone else is lying that they oppose.

The problem is that these are extreme liars and pretenders who haven't even an ounce of integrity. Thousands of examples..Lawless judges and prosecutors are running wild.
From Biden himself, a reporter asks him to say something about the maui fires. His response: "No comment". Any normal feeling compassionate human being would have said something else, at least some good words.



posted on Sep, 2 2023 @ 08:29 PM
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originally posted by: NoCorruptionAllowed

originally posted by: psychotrail

originally posted by: DBCowboy

originally posted by: psychotrail

originally posted by: DBCowboy

originally posted by: psychotrail

originally posted by: DBCowboy

originally posted by: psychotrail

originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: psychotrail

Lady Justice should always be blind.
Absolutely. You have different thoughts on things DB , any ideas of how to get our DOJ & Courts balanced ?


Revolution.

Are you willing to go that extreme ?


Nope.

I'm old, need the current government, and am a coward.

I'll be "The Good German" and obey even though it'll kill me inside.

I have too many people reliant on me.
So the youth should revolt , because they don’t have families of their own ?


*shrugs*

You asked the question, I answered it.

Our corrupt government won't go quietly into that good night, to coin a phrase.

It is obvious that they are willing to go to great lengths to punish anyone not obedient.
I agree , but wouldn’t Trump just start attacking all kinds of liberals some justly & many others unjustly ?
This gang warfare on Capital Hill needs to stop & living in one ditch to the other is no plan forward imo.
So no other ideas besides revolution ?


No, Trump doesn't attack anyone unjustly. And he has NEVER drawn first blood (so to speak). Every single time he went after anyone was when they attacked him first, or he was calling out some despicable thing they did. What are we seeing today from them? Despicable acts and lies. Their response is to claim everyone else is lying that they oppose.

The problem is that these are extreme liars and pretenders who haven't even an ounce of integrity. Thousands of examples..Lawless judges and prosecutors are running wild.
From Biden himself, a reporter asks him to say something about the maui fires. His response: "No comment". Any normal feeling compassionate human being would have said something else, at least some good words.

So in your world it’s all the other guy’s fault & Trump is the hero ?
Trump & Biden are equally foul people on 1000s of fronts .
How do you propose a balance ? Or is just a one way street where you call home ?



posted on Sep, 2 2023 @ 08:44 PM
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originally posted by: AnrkEE

originally posted by: NoCorruptionAllowed

originally posted by: psychotrail

originally posted by: nugget1
a reply to: psychotrail




Yes it is unfair , but it doesn’t dismiss Trump’s crimes imo .

Trump has been charged with crimes. Is innocent until proven guilty no longer a think in the US?

Have we, as a society, become so close minded and biased that we no longer require any proof before determining someone is guilty as charged?

Do you have an idea that would help even out our Justice system ?
This thread isn’t about who did what ..
Im calling both parties corrupt.


I have a great idea that would help our entire government. Military goes in and throws them all out, same with all the big MSM companies, military goes in and puts them all out of business. All the ACTUAL liars and people abusing their authority, like current judges, politicians.

Destroy all the voting machines like Dominions cheater systems, use tanks to fire upon them in a big pile at the big garbage dump. Make it very public.

Just like that coup that just happened in Africa, that wasn't really a coup, it was justice being served against liars and cheaters.
No more cheating Dominion voting company, all gone. French revolution style. The liars and cheaters want to use tyranny against the people who oppose them. Off with their heads.

Too scary? Nahhh.
It won't matter soon anyways, Iran and Russia will use nukes against the USA pushed in to it by criminally incompetent American officials. They really do want full hot war with Russia.

Get your house in order.
umm. im a romatic, idealist and an anarchist.....can I join your army too? I already know the moves and I can follow good ideas and I really think it would be fun to get in there with ya. maybe we can train others from the genaral populace to join your army? some of them are pretty upset and that might be a usefull talent to qualify? we dont need rank even. gear, food, various other things we can source on our own to put a little personality into the fight. Im a poet. so if i gotta fight then i wanna epic poem if i make it out the other end. Its just my way of processing horror not a way to stifle being horrific. I might enjoy that, dont know till i find out. every village we see I bet i can add to the ranks aswell. See I just added myself, and you couldnt really say no could you? Ok make me corporal that the only rank I want. I will make that into 2 privates if i have to. where do i line up? and where do we begin?


You are now a Corporal. A Marine Corporal. We need marines. Unfortunately we can't belong to any organized groups because the corrupt feds will infiltrate. Actually they would likely give us weapons and fake bombs while encouraging us to do things then they sweep in and save the day which is how they operate.

Staying totally solo is the only way to survive. Or trusted friends working only to help or defend people if they begin murdering citizens. Like they just did.

I don't know what the answer is, except to say we need a real patriotic constitutional president to clean house, and fire all the woke generals first, then get some real men and women in there again. (No leftists who ignore political neutrality) It might still happen.
edit on 2-9-2023 by NoCorruptionAllowed because: edit



posted on Sep, 3 2023 @ 09:25 AM
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a reply to: Turquosie

I like any news that is not corporate or government backed. Many Youtube channels fit this but some are still left or right leaning, but I understand that also means what you find to be right or wrong. For example: support abortions you probably lean left, against Tran surgeries on minors you probably lean right.

Vivek is a power house with his answers, he is very methodical, which I'm not going to lie he makes me wonder if he is even real. Not in the physical sense of course, but is he friend or foe. This is where our current state has put me, trusting no one. I see that he is being set up for Trumps VP. The talk is probably real, and if so Ramaswamy could possibly be one of the next presidents, because like Tucker Carlson, I believe they will do away with Trump if he wins. That would leave us with Vivek as president and my paranoid side wonders if this isn't the plan.
Don't get me wrong, I like what Vivek says, but he aligns too much, and that is what makes me hesitate. Especially since it seems he might have been groomed to run from a young age, if you see the video with him and Buttigieg as teenagers asking questions at a Democrat convention, you'll see what I mean. Sure he could have been just a teenager really in to politics, just as Pete probably was, but maybe we should stop and weigh the possibility that our future leaders are being trained by the elites to win with the elites interests in mind. Again I like Vivek for now, but how he is running for President, and pushes for Trump is really odd. It's almost like one way or the other he is getting in to office.



posted on Sep, 3 2023 @ 11:18 AM
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a reply to: NoCorruptionAllowedWell just like that I have the priviledge to find myself welcomed in as an honourary marine, and find myself feeling a little inadequate amongst some of the toughest men on the planet. Yes ladies and you too. lol. What I have feared most all along has been confirmed by you, and that this is in fact, a solo mission. We all knew. Just like that I don't feel lonely, or all on my own. I can't imagine how many there must be here, all hoping, and pulling, and crying for our 2 countries to start back to the better direction. I watch America, and even though it seem's so impossible to stop it's tragic decline, I have so much hope still, because I know if anyone can, it's definately the american's.

Up here us polite canadian's are pretty damn tough too. There is nothing more invigorating than watching my people stop apologizing. If that stop's happening be sure that we have had it, and we are headed to the hockey rink or the back alley. You won't find alot of polite canadian stuff there, you will find the side of canadian and he is a mean, tough and angry and ya shouldn't havr made us stop apologizing cuz now you will be. lol The rink is exactly where all those pleasant thing's we are considered to be, end's. The skate's go on and instantly you can expect tough, mean, and brutal. We don't even want to score first, we are out there picking fight's, and setting up people to send into the corner for the puck, but we aren't coming behind thinking anything about that puck. We don't even care if they have their head up. Canadian's are starting to think of their leadership as the other team now, and that is not the team they really wanna be on. Look's like I am going to have to skate better, but I'm not looking to score a goal at all, my job on the ice is not to look pretty. Alot of our job's are not to look pretty and score goal's, our job is to make sure that after the game some people wont want to come to the pub afterword's. They are starting to think that too, and so they are just delaying the game. The game is lost for them and they know it, and will have to go find a place to drink on their own. Even the most bitter rival's can have beer's together after, and when they cannot, that say's a whole lot. That say's that no other, will ever have a beer with them either, they will never be accepted anywhere, by any of us. For a canadian to do that, ya must have F#@ up really bad. It is also understood that if you don't leave on your own, we won't wait to lace up the skate's, we aren't playing but all our player's are coming and the same mentality is coming as if we were on the ice. We will play on the street then, we will play it everywhere they go now. This ain't a game anymore, there are no whistle's and the ref's will soon call in sick. Seem's like their getting fed up too, and are going back to being on a team.

We want them to go away, find their very own pub, and never come back because we don't even wanna see them on the ice, where we love to get revenge. You have to ha F@$# up pretty bad for a canadian to do that. No other team's will play them either, and it's time to hang up their skate's before we decide we will drag em to the rink then, and show them why they should have went golfing. This is all well understood, amongst canadian's we are just waiting for a call from their coach saying the boy's aint gonna come to the rink, that they will forfeit the game. They have us on speed dial, they just have to hit the button. They are so close, and it's beautiful. It say's our team is the meanest team in the league, and they are too scared to play. Good decision.

All these analogies are well and good. The fact of it is that everyone is fed up. People are so sick of this. It doesn't have to be this way. Why are our leader's trying to destroy us? The betrayel is so heartbreaking, people all over the world quietly suffering, and in despair. Losing hope? Hope is the last thing to go. That frighten's me so much. Mostly I cry though because it is heartwrenching. I also cry before I fight, I would rather be doing the polite canadian, because having to be they other one, I feel a little sorry for them. There won't be a sorry coming this time. lol

That is all really. I'm a marine corporal now, and solo among countless other's. I'm a hockey player again. Im a human begging for them all to just go away, find their own pub, and take up golfing. Please America, we all love you and we want you to come back. If anyone on the planet can do it, it''s the toughest team in the league. It's the American's. The Canadian's well......that phone better ring, and we better get an apology or we will see you at game time, and just maybe we will have beer's after the game. After all we are canadian's, we will let you back in, but ya better act right. Likely there is gonna be a brawl, then one more beer together and it's time for you to go. We are all square.

They can even try another pub, just to see what they say. Knowing canadian's, I'm sure there is something. They will probably think it best to find their own pub after all, but I would like them to learn it the hard way. Some people still wanna talk to them, and i don't think they are gonna say sorry either. lol Good Luck

NoCorruptionAllowed because I don't think anybody will get the call in, and we all know what that mean's?? I just gotta play one-two shift's of hockey. I don't even need full gear. Then my prized possession...my stripes are on..hoooaa.
I think this is going to be one hell of a year. Im old as it is. Clean up that house, and who know's how, but there has got to be a way. They are going to end up doing us all right, won't they? they won't throw it all away, will they? There will be peace for once, for once it will be done with peace, right? I'm not very optimistic about it. I'm praying for it alot though, and it's F##$ up, to get my true ideology to do that. Canadian.? Corporal?. wild.

BTW The leftists? Ya they are severe a hole's. I wouldn't have believed I could hate an almost entire group of people, certainly wouldn't think the leftist. They think the are on the correct side, don't choose a side, and are mostly fascist's. The irony!! Too dumb to see it!! I have found way's to mess with them, it's fun when new, and absurd rule's are brought in and you find way's to turn their stupidity back on them. I think they better shut up soon, maybe go back to being hippie's, they aren't very astute to realize how much damage they are doing. They deserve eveything you know? The demand it, and are entitled to it. mmmmkkaaayy providing me endless joy and laughter when they get it. But mostly they get my disdain. Already does. I don't see thing's going particularly well for them, and they really should worry about total collapse. Alot of people would likely find it appetizing with them kicking around. I have never seen something so close to a uniform, without having a uniform. wild

Come on America, we love you and we need you back. Get it all back. The most amazing document ever concieved is slipping from you, sit down at the table and ask for it back, because I am terrified that you will never go back to that table. The only solution for peace I see, is to grant them all amnesty. It's real bitter I know, but they will choose total destruction if you don't. Remember these people have enormous amount's of truly vile sickness, so they get away clean or nobody does. Peace



posted on Sep, 3 2023 @ 11:50 AM
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American politics is a pendulum
Justice is Justice.



posted on Sep, 3 2023 @ 04:55 PM
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a reply to: psychotrail I see, ok and fair enough. I suppose I am quite terrible with the wriiten word. Puctuation, paragraph's etc. Actually a litany of terrible mistake's that would confuse the reader. I seem to have lost all those thing's and I find it difficult to remember the rule's. I think, what I do is write as though I am speaking aloud in front of people and sort of talk as if in the room. Probably maddening.

Also, the legalization in Canada come's with the added bonus of a hefty potency if you want that. I tend to want that. Though once or twice I was in over my head. I would like another chance to make it....readable, coherent, proper as I can. This will take some time. If you are serious, and would be interested then I would be happy to put in that effort, and hopefully have a polished response for you. Then have your thought's raised, if I can manage to do a better job. I would actually really like that opportunity because, well I dont want to be a poor writer, and the challnge of idea's is always fun. So if you say you will actually challange those idea's with me, it is worth my time to try and improve what I have put there. Will you make the effort to have the discussion? I am not saying it's the best system at all, but it is a close approximation in my opinion, and the best way to improve it is to have it challeged. You game? Or can you start another thread? I lost my original because I couldn't remember my original email, and sadly lost all my coveted stars. Can't say I;m off to a good start with this new account, in fact I can see why, and it is along the line's of what you have asked of me. No suprise now. In?



posted on Sep, 3 2023 @ 05:25 PM
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originally posted by: AnrkEE
a reply to: psychotrail I see, ok and fair enough. I suppose I am quite terrible with the wriiten word. Puctuation, paragraph's etc. Actually a litany of terrible mistake's that would confuse the reader. I seem to have lost all those thing's and I find it difficult to remember the rule's. I think, what I do is write as though I am speaking aloud in front of people and sort of talk as if in the room. Probably maddening.

Also, the legalization in Canada come's with the added bonus of a hefty potency if you want that. I tend to want that. Though once or twice I was in over my head. I would like another chance to make it....readable, coherent, proper as I can. This will take some time. If you are serious, and would be interested then I would be happy to put in that effort, and hopefully have a polished response for you. Then have your thought's raised, if I can manage to do a better job. I would actually really like that opportunity because, well I dont want to be a poor writer, and the challnge of idea's is always fun. So if you say you will actually challange those idea's with me, it is worth my time to try and improve what I have put there. Will you make the effort to have the discussion? I am not saying it's the best system at all, but it is a close approximation in my opinion, and the best way to improve it is to have it challeged. You game? Or can you start another thread? I lost my original because I couldn't remember my original email, and sadly lost all my coveted stars. Can't say I;m off to a good start with this new account, in fact I can see why, and it is along the line's of what you have asked of me. No suprise now. In?

Yes , I enjoy learning. Please do your best , but not required. Typed words have limits in proper communication.
I appreciate your views wether we agree or not , thats how it has to work .
Keep your stick on the ice mate 👍



posted on Sep, 3 2023 @ 10:17 PM
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Psychotrail?? Ok. So a little direction is needed. Can you pick out some things from what I have written that I should focus on? That way I can try and make sense of my jumbled mess? Im so needy right? lol. Really though, a few lines that I can maybe structure something around and see if I can pump out something to get the ball rolling?
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posted on Sep, 3 2023 @ 10:18 PM
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a reply to: psychotrail sorry. see my above post?



posted on Sep, 3 2023 @ 11:36 PM
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originally posted by: AnrkEE
Psychotrail?? Ok. So a little direction is needed. Can you pick out some things from what I have written that I should focus on? That way I can try and make sense of my jumbled mess? Im so needy right? lol. Really though, a few lines that I can maybe structure something around and see if I can pump out something to get the ball rolling?
It cool .
No wuckin forries



posted on Sep, 3 2023 @ 11:41 PM
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originally posted by: psychotrail

originally posted by: AnrkEE
well if there is voting there isnt actually anarchy is there?. I dont expect the proper understanding of the word any more
but here is a short answer. Anarchy is the noblest of all forms of social order. I know all the misguided things about to be unleashed, but before you do consider these things?. For a system without rules and laws, it sure has some pretty heavy rules and laws. Very cliquish and fall in line or else!! you would have to be there to get that. another is, it is suprising how well people actaully behave when they dont face a system, but instead all the angry or smiling faces right infront of them. The truth will get sussed out and it can be uncomfortable with ego involved(see me for example) ok point for you guys. Mob rule can be fairly just, and measured, which you would think is the opposite of mob rule, its not. lastly in the 70's or 80's and i still cant find the source, so you will have to take my word for it, but a blind survey was drafted and something like 70% a bit more of people actually scored on the political spectrum as???? anarchist's. if you wanna # on that go ahead. Im taking questions and i have answers. so fire away. if at the end if I havent swayed you directly, then I will have convinced other's that their understanding is so wrong and the didnt even by how far wrong and then they will know it. its a term just that is slung around now, like the term nazi is now. meaningless and hardly true to actaul definition. and for other's , like the one's in that survey, you may be an anarchist and not know it. Before the arrows fly maybe ask yourself? if i, myself am already prepared for your argument and for how long have i been prepared? are you prepared for my answer? because maybe you should be prepared or that mob rule thing will be demonstrated. However, im also prepared to # on the idea too. A man that knows the strengths must surely know the weaknesss's, or does he know anything at all then? One more thing hey guy, ya that guy, you know who ypou are I want you to speak up most. Be ardent, be staunch, stand you ground and just over and over tell me about what is impossible? I always look forward to you. While you are doing that im gonna talk to the other's and see if I can get get them to see what is possible. If they believe me. ok you go then and form your society take some with you too. Remember you are always welcome to come back. If yyou arent welcome back you would already know it and well, you are on your own. The rest of us will be sorting the best possible way to get things fairly evenly and easily done as possible. Anybody can say no. This isnt a democracy with majority rule, it is the truest form of democracy though. so You arent compelled to comply but we also arent compelled to share or take you in so dont rush any decisions ok? ok lets go im game? Think it through. this will take awhile. if its weak ass # that you heared in any blurb without context. a simple talking point?, save it, you arent in this fight. so the well thought ideas are in play all other's??? well find out? i guess. serious talk. Im not 100% but if you have nothing more than a simple understanding then just...dont . just listen and decide for yourself. I will be the first to say its where the ideal is weak and or wrong. The bleeting will start with the word idealist!! Go to the back and think through, that is not the death blow and end of arguement like you may think. Any romatics in the house?. ok, im here anyone else? idealists? still here? ok im here too, so im the first of the idealists too?. ok fair game....mob justice like i said. lets put anarchy in action and see if we can learn something new? and you the vote guy quoted below? you are the count guy. hands faces
whatever pick the thinbg and then count it. you brought it up so you seem experienced. doeas anybody else have something that we need to consider to fix this game just square as we can? issues?? whatever suggestions?w open floor. send in the archers!!!

originally posted by: psychotrail

originally posted by: socialmediaclown
I get a glimmer of hope when I see people start to open their eyes to the mass corruption prevalent on both sides. And then the glimmer fades when the assumption is that voting is going to fix everything.
What then , anarchy & he who killed the most gets to rule ?
Yes there is & always has been corruption in voting , but complete corruption is a reach . Besides the days of Boss Tweed are long gone & Boss Tweed insured complete corruption in voting.
Who knows though there is a possibility that all votes are meaningless & they make up numbers & install the pre-chosen as all our votes are never really counted, but I doubt that heavily.

I don’t understand your post . Could you describe it without drifting into 3rd , 2nd & 1st person ?
can you shorten this one up to 3 points & a review.



posted on Sep, 4 2023 @ 12:26 AM
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Certainly. Upon review I have considered those points. Yes I can. No I wont, and finally why would I ? Thank you for your time but it wasn't used effeciently Im afraid. I can do about as well figuring out 3rd, 2nd and 1st persons, as you can do picking anything helpful in terms of subject matter. If you can do that, then maybe I will be able to pick one, that is most appropriate of the three? Maybe we don't have to write another dreadfull unhelpfull note. Save some time. I can see you are a little pressed at the moment. Exactly the type of person I love having converstion's with, I learn so much. You know, sarcastic and hard to please but only because they know I could do better if I would just apply myself. My teacher's had the same maddening problem with me. They were right, I will never amount to anything. OK yeah, I wanna.....but what will happen if I make a typo? Will you make me throw it away and start over again? please don't give up on me? I can do better.
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posted on Sep, 4 2023 @ 01:41 AM
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originally posted by: psychotrail


I will not be voting for Biden nor Trump but rather a moderate left candidate for my own reasons.
My intention is not to push a political agenda, but there will be critics & I apologise before hand if you take issue with any of this as it was not my desire.

Right now in America September 2023 there is one ex-President being charged with multiple crimes & dereliction of duty .
We also have a sitting President who should be charged with multiple crimes & derelictions of duty.

So why is only one being persecuted ?
Trump is being persecuted, because justice is being served imo , but the current power structure of Washington is of a liberal one & Biden gets a pass .
Well that sure is unfair then right ?

Yes it is unfair , but it doesn’t dismiss Trump’s crimes imo .
Justice has been held only on conservative sides for periods of political time here in America as well.
There has been persecution of liberal politicians & people by Republicans as they turn blind eyes to their own party member’s crimes.
Both Biden & Trump belong stripped of holding any public office at a minimum for their behaviours .

Im tired of hearing Trump is innocent , because he is not .
Yes Trump is singled out & for him it is unfair , but for America it is justice.
Im also tired of Biden escaping justice while his degenerate son runs a savage burn across this globe.

So it is my opinion that justice works awesome in America, but only for one side at bouts of time in changing political currents.

So it’s not a Democrat or a Republican problem but rather both their problems.
Im interested in discussing how we have checks & balances built in to ensure blind justice.

My idea would to eliminate the way judges are appointed.
I would rather see all federal judges on national ballots every 12 years rather than be appointed by the current President & their party .
I would also structure the Supreme court with hard seats equalling 5 permanent liberal chairs , 5 permanent conservative chairs & 1 independent chair.
This would ensure a balance.
You vote from pools of candidates & everyone votes for 5 liberals , 5 conservatives & 1 independent every 12 years in a non- presidential election year .
68 yr old age limit for all federal judges.
Judges will not be able to campaign for their positions but rather their chosen parties will campaign for their preferred.
Primaries set the columns & thats that .
All registered parties with a minimum registered voter numbers will be given a set amount of campaign monies for their perspective judges .
All Federal Judges will have their judicial activities on an easily accessible federal website that shows all their votes & decision throughout their federal or state careers in a simple to use interface.

Thats one idea I have ?
Lets hear some more from you the members of ATS
I for one am sick of gang warfare on Capital Hill .
Justice must be blind , equal & timely .
Peace ☮️


way back to ted kennedy and mary jo.









 
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