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originally posted by: psychotrail
So the youth should revolt , because they don’t have families of their own ?
originally posted by: DBCowboy
originally posted by: psychotrail
Are you willing to go that extreme ?
originally posted by: DBCowboy
originally posted by: psychotrail
Absolutely. You have different thoughts on things DB , any ideas of how to get our DOJ & Courts balanced ?
originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: psychotrail
Lady Justice should always be blind.
Revolution.
Nope.
I'm old, need the current government, and am a coward.
I'll be "The Good German" and obey even though it'll kill me inside.
I have too many people reliant on me.
umm. im a romatic, idealist and an anarchist.....can I join your army too? I already know the moves and I can follow good ideas and I really think it would be fun to get in there with ya. maybe we can train others from the genaral populace to join your army? some of them are pretty upset and that might be a usefull talent to qualify? we dont need rank even. gear, food, various other things we can source on our own to put a little personality into the fight. Im a poet. so if i gotta fight then i wanna epic poem if i make it out the other end. Its just my way of processing horror not a way to stifle being horrific. I might enjoy that, dont know till i find out. every village we see I bet i can add to the ranks aswell. See I just added myself, and you couldnt really say no could you? Ok make me corporal that the only rank I want. I will make that into 2 privates if i have to. where do i line up? and where do we begin?
originally posted by: NoCorruptionAllowed
originally posted by: psychotrail
Do you have an idea that would help even out our Justice system ?
originally posted by: nugget1
a reply to: psychotrail
Yes it is unfair , but it doesn’t dismiss Trump’s crimes imo .
Trump has been charged with crimes. Is innocent until proven guilty no longer a think in the US?
Have we, as a society, become so close minded and biased that we no longer require any proof before determining someone is guilty as charged?
This thread isn’t about who did what ..
Im calling both parties corrupt.
I have a great idea that would help our entire government. Military goes in and throws them all out, same with all the big MSM companies, military goes in and puts them all out of business. All the ACTUAL liars and people abusing their authority, like current judges, politicians.
Destroy all the voting machines like Dominions cheater systems, use tanks to fire upon them in a big pile at the big garbage dump. Make it very public.
Just like that coup that just happened in Africa, that wasn't really a coup, it was justice being served against liars and cheaters.
No more cheating Dominion voting company, all gone. French revolution style. The liars and cheaters want to use tyranny against the people who oppose them. Off with their heads.
Too scary? Nahhh.
It won't matter soon anyways, Iran and Russia will use nukes against the USA pushed in to it by criminally incompetent American officials. They really do want full hot war with Russia.
Get your house in order.
I agree , but wouldn’t Trump just start attacking all kinds of liberals some justly & many others unjustly ?
originally posted by: DBCowboy
originally posted by: psychotrail
So the youth should revolt , because they don’t have families of their own ?
originally posted by: DBCowboy
originally posted by: psychotrail
Are you willing to go that extreme ?
originally posted by: DBCowboy
originally posted by: psychotrail
Absolutely. You have different thoughts on things DB , any ideas of how to get our DOJ & Courts balanced ?
originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: psychotrail
Lady Justice should always be blind.
Revolution.
Nope.
I'm old, need the current government, and am a coward.
I'll be "The Good German" and obey even though it'll kill me inside.
I have too many people reliant on me.
*shrugs*
You asked the question, I answered it.
Our corrupt government won't go quietly into that good night, to coin a phrase.
It is obvious that they are willing to go to great lengths to punish anyone not obedient.
originally posted by: psychotrail
I agree , but wouldn’t Trump just start attacking all kinds of liberals some justly & many others unjustly ?
originally posted by: DBCowboy
originally posted by: psychotrail
So the youth should revolt , because they don’t have families of their own ?
originally posted by: DBCowboy
originally posted by: psychotrail
Are you willing to go that extreme ?
originally posted by: DBCowboy
originally posted by: psychotrail
Absolutely. You have different thoughts on things DB , any ideas of how to get our DOJ & Courts balanced ?
originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: psychotrail
Lady Justice should always be blind.
Revolution.
Nope.
I'm old, need the current government, and am a coward.
I'll be "The Good German" and obey even though it'll kill me inside.
I have too many people reliant on me.
*shrugs*
You asked the question, I answered it.
Our corrupt government won't go quietly into that good night, to coin a phrase.
It is obvious that they are willing to go to great lengths to punish anyone not obedient.
This gang warfare on Capital Hill needs to stop & living in one ditch to the other is no plan forward imo.
So no other ideas besides revolution ?
So in your world it’s all the other guy’s fault & Trump is the hero ?
originally posted by: NoCorruptionAllowed
originally posted by: psychotrail
I agree , but wouldn’t Trump just start attacking all kinds of liberals some justly & many others unjustly ?
originally posted by: DBCowboy
originally posted by: psychotrail
So the youth should revolt , because they don’t have families of their own ?
originally posted by: DBCowboy
originally posted by: psychotrail
Are you willing to go that extreme ?
originally posted by: DBCowboy
originally posted by: psychotrail
Absolutely. You have different thoughts on things DB , any ideas of how to get our DOJ & Courts balanced ?
originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: psychotrail
Lady Justice should always be blind.
Revolution.
Nope.
I'm old, need the current government, and am a coward.
I'll be "The Good German" and obey even though it'll kill me inside.
I have too many people reliant on me.
*shrugs*
You asked the question, I answered it.
Our corrupt government won't go quietly into that good night, to coin a phrase.
It is obvious that they are willing to go to great lengths to punish anyone not obedient.
This gang warfare on Capital Hill needs to stop & living in one ditch to the other is no plan forward imo.
So no other ideas besides revolution ?
No, Trump doesn't attack anyone unjustly. And he has NEVER drawn first blood (so to speak). Every single time he went after anyone was when they attacked him first, or he was calling out some despicable thing they did. What are we seeing today from them? Despicable acts and lies. Their response is to claim everyone else is lying that they oppose.
The problem is that these are extreme liars and pretenders who haven't even an ounce of integrity. Thousands of examples..Lawless judges and prosecutors are running wild.
From Biden himself, a reporter asks him to say something about the maui fires. His response: "No comment". Any normal feeling compassionate human being would have said something else, at least some good words.
originally posted by: AnrkEE
umm. im a romatic, idealist and an anarchist.....can I join your army too? I already know the moves and I can follow good ideas and I really think it would be fun to get in there with ya. maybe we can train others from the genaral populace to join your army? some of them are pretty upset and that might be a usefull talent to qualify? we dont need rank even. gear, food, various other things we can source on our own to put a little personality into the fight. Im a poet. so if i gotta fight then i wanna epic poem if i make it out the other end. Its just my way of processing horror not a way to stifle being horrific. I might enjoy that, dont know till i find out. every village we see I bet i can add to the ranks aswell. See I just added myself, and you couldnt really say no could you? Ok make me corporal that the only rank I want. I will make that into 2 privates if i have to. where do i line up? and where do we begin?
originally posted by: NoCorruptionAllowed
originally posted by: psychotrail
Do you have an idea that would help even out our Justice system ?
originally posted by: nugget1
a reply to: psychotrail
Yes it is unfair , but it doesn’t dismiss Trump’s crimes imo .
Trump has been charged with crimes. Is innocent until proven guilty no longer a think in the US?
Have we, as a society, become so close minded and biased that we no longer require any proof before determining someone is guilty as charged?
This thread isn’t about who did what ..
Im calling both parties corrupt.
I have a great idea that would help our entire government. Military goes in and throws them all out, same with all the big MSM companies, military goes in and puts them all out of business. All the ACTUAL liars and people abusing their authority, like current judges, politicians.
Destroy all the voting machines like Dominions cheater systems, use tanks to fire upon them in a big pile at the big garbage dump. Make it very public.
Just like that coup that just happened in Africa, that wasn't really a coup, it was justice being served against liars and cheaters.
No more cheating Dominion voting company, all gone. French revolution style. The liars and cheaters want to use tyranny against the people who oppose them. Off with their heads.
Too scary? Nahhh.
It won't matter soon anyways, Iran and Russia will use nukes against the USA pushed in to it by criminally incompetent American officials. They really do want full hot war with Russia.
Get your house in order.
Yes , I enjoy learning. Please do your best , but not required. Typed words have limits in proper communication.
originally posted by: AnrkEE
a reply to: psychotrail I see, ok and fair enough. I suppose I am quite terrible with the wriiten word. Puctuation, paragraph's etc. Actually a litany of terrible mistake's that would confuse the reader. I seem to have lost all those thing's and I find it difficult to remember the rule's. I think, what I do is write as though I am speaking aloud in front of people and sort of talk as if in the room. Probably maddening.
Also, the legalization in Canada come's with the added bonus of a hefty potency if you want that. I tend to want that. Though once or twice I was in over my head. I would like another chance to make it....readable, coherent, proper as I can. This will take some time. If you are serious, and would be interested then I would be happy to put in that effort, and hopefully have a polished response for you. Then have your thought's raised, if I can manage to do a better job. I would actually really like that opportunity because, well I dont want to be a poor writer, and the challnge of idea's is always fun. So if you say you will actually challange those idea's with me, it is worth my time to try and improve what I have put there. Will you make the effort to have the discussion? I am not saying it's the best system at all, but it is a close approximation in my opinion, and the best way to improve it is to have it challeged. You game? Or can you start another thread? I lost my original because I couldn't remember my original email, and sadly lost all my coveted stars. Can't say I;m off to a good start with this new account, in fact I can see why, and it is along the line's of what you have asked of me. No suprise now. In?
It cool .
originally posted by: AnrkEE
Psychotrail?? Ok. So a little direction is needed. Can you pick out some things from what I have written that I should focus on? That way I can try and make sense of my jumbled mess? Im so needy right? lol. Really though, a few lines that I can maybe structure something around and see if I can pump out something to get the ball rolling?
can you shorten this one up to 3 points & a review.
originally posted by: psychotrail
originally posted by: AnrkEE
well if there is voting there isnt actually anarchy is there?. I dont expect the proper understanding of the word any more
but here is a short answer. Anarchy is the noblest of all forms of social order. I know all the misguided things about to be unleashed, but before you do consider these things?. For a system without rules and laws, it sure has some pretty heavy rules and laws. Very cliquish and fall in line or else!! you would have to be there to get that. another is, it is suprising how well people actaully behave when they dont face a system, but instead all the angry or smiling faces right infront of them. The truth will get sussed out and it can be uncomfortable with ego involved(see me for example) ok point for you guys. Mob rule can be fairly just, and measured, which you would think is the opposite of mob rule, its not. lastly in the 70's or 80's and i still cant find the source, so you will have to take my word for it, but a blind survey was drafted and something like 70% a bit more of people actually scored on the political spectrum as???? anarchist's. if you wanna # on that go ahead. Im taking questions and i have answers. so fire away. if at the end if I havent swayed you directly, then I will have convinced other's that their understanding is so wrong and the didnt even by how far wrong and then they will know it. its a term just that is slung around now, like the term nazi is now. meaningless and hardly true to actaul definition. and for other's , like the one's in that survey, you may be an anarchist and not know it. Before the arrows fly maybe ask yourself? if i, myself am already prepared for your argument and for how long have i been prepared? are you prepared for my answer? because maybe you should be prepared or that mob rule thing will be demonstrated. However, im also prepared to # on the idea too. A man that knows the strengths must surely know the weaknesss's, or does he know anything at all then? One more thing hey guy, ya that guy, you know who ypou are I want you to speak up most. Be ardent, be staunch, stand you ground and just over and over tell me about what is impossible? I always look forward to you. While you are doing that im gonna talk to the other's and see if I can get get them to see what is possible. If they believe me. ok you go then and form your society take some with you too. Remember you are always welcome to come back. If yyou arent welcome back you would already know it and well, you are on your own. The rest of us will be sorting the best possible way to get things fairly evenly and easily done as possible. Anybody can say no. This isnt a democracy with majority rule, it is the truest form of democracy though. so You arent compelled to comply but we also arent compelled to share or take you in so dont rush any decisions ok? ok lets go im game? Think it through. this will take awhile. if its weak ass # that you heared in any blurb without context. a simple talking point?, save it, you arent in this fight. so the well thought ideas are in play all other's??? well find out? i guess. serious talk. Im not 100% but if you have nothing more than a simple understanding then just...dont . just listen and decide for yourself. I will be the first to say its where the ideal is weak and or wrong. The bleeting will start with the word idealist!! Go to the back and think through, that is not the death blow and end of arguement like you may think. Any romatics in the house?. ok, im here anyone else? idealists? still here? ok im here too, so im the first of the idealists too?. ok fair game....mob justice like i said. lets put anarchy in action and see if we can learn something new? and you the vote guy quoted below? you are the count guy. hands faces
whatever pick the thinbg and then count it. you brought it up so you seem experienced. doeas anybody else have something that we need to consider to fix this game just square as we can? issues?? whatever suggestions?w open floor. send in the archers!!!
originally posted by: psychotrail
What then , anarchy & he who killed the most gets to rule ?
originally posted by: socialmediaclown
I get a glimmer of hope when I see people start to open their eyes to the mass corruption prevalent on both sides. And then the glimmer fades when the assumption is that voting is going to fix everything.
Yes there is & always has been corruption in voting , but complete corruption is a reach . Besides the days of Boss Tweed are long gone & Boss Tweed insured complete corruption in voting.
Who knows though there is a possibility that all votes are meaningless & they make up numbers & install the pre-chosen as all our votes are never really counted, but I doubt that heavily.
I don’t understand your post . Could you describe it without drifting into 3rd , 2nd & 1st person ?
originally posted by: psychotrail
I will not be voting for Biden nor Trump but rather a moderate left candidate for my own reasons.
My intention is not to push a political agenda, but there will be critics & I apologise before hand if you take issue with any of this as it was not my desire.
Right now in America September 2023 there is one ex-President being charged with multiple crimes & dereliction of duty .
We also have a sitting President who should be charged with multiple crimes & derelictions of duty.
So why is only one being persecuted ?
Trump is being persecuted, because justice is being served imo , but the current power structure of Washington is of a liberal one & Biden gets a pass .
Well that sure is unfair then right ?
Yes it is unfair , but it doesn’t dismiss Trump’s crimes imo .
Justice has been held only on conservative sides for periods of political time here in America as well.
There has been persecution of liberal politicians & people by Republicans as they turn blind eyes to their own party member’s crimes.
Both Biden & Trump belong stripped of holding any public office at a minimum for their behaviours .
Im tired of hearing Trump is innocent , because he is not .
Yes Trump is singled out & for him it is unfair , but for America it is justice.
Im also tired of Biden escaping justice while his degenerate son runs a savage burn across this globe.
So it is my opinion that justice works awesome in America, but only for one side at bouts of time in changing political currents.
So it’s not a Democrat or a Republican problem but rather both their problems.
Im interested in discussing how we have checks & balances built in to ensure blind justice.
My idea would to eliminate the way judges are appointed.
I would rather see all federal judges on national ballots every 12 years rather than be appointed by the current President & their party .
I would also structure the Supreme court with hard seats equalling 5 permanent liberal chairs , 5 permanent conservative chairs & 1 independent chair.
This would ensure a balance.
You vote from pools of candidates & everyone votes for 5 liberals , 5 conservatives & 1 independent every 12 years in a non- presidential election year .
68 yr old age limit for all federal judges.
Judges will not be able to campaign for their positions but rather their chosen parties will campaign for their preferred.
Primaries set the columns & thats that .
All registered parties with a minimum registered voter numbers will be given a set amount of campaign monies for their perspective judges .
All Federal Judges will have their judicial activities on an easily accessible federal website that shows all their votes & decision throughout their federal or state careers in a simple to use interface.
Thats one idea I have ?
Lets hear some more from you the members of ATS
I for one am sick of gang warfare on Capital Hill .
Justice must be blind , equal & timely .
Peace ☮️