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The Cultural Marxist Revolution

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posted on Aug, 31 2023 @ 04:22 PM
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A few members have asked what is meant when many of us use the term, "Marxist".

Well, I can't speak for anyone but myself, but this is why.


Cultural Marxism can be a controversial term—some assert there’s no such thing, and others use the term as a catch-all for anything they see as undermining society. In short, cultural Marxism is a revolutionary leftist idea that traditional culture is the source of oppression in the modern world. Cultural Marxism is often linked to an insistence upon political correctness, multiculturalism, and perpetual attacks on the foundations of culture: the nuclear family, marriage, patriotism, traditional morality, law and order, etc. Cultural Marxists are assumed to be committed to establishing economic Marxism, in which case their cultural attacks are a necessary preparation for their ultimate goal.


Bold is mine.

www.gotquestions.org...

But I would be remiss if I didn't add what the left thinks of the term. . . .


The term "Cultural Marxism" refers to a far-right antisemitic conspiracy theory which misrepresents the Frankfurt School as being responsible for modern progressive movements, identity politics, and political correctness. The conspiracy theory posits that there is an ongoing and intentional academic and intellectual effort to subvert Western society via a planned culture war that undermines the Christian values of traditionalist conservatism and seeks to replace them with culturally liberal values.


Bold is again, mine.

en.wikipedia.org...



"Cultural Marxism refers to an intellectual and political movement that seeks to challenge and transform cultural norms, beliefs, and values through the lens of Marxist theory. It is a sociopolitical approach that focuses on the role of culture, identity, and discourse in establishing and perpetuating power structures and inequalities within society. Often criticized by its opponents, the term is contested, and its usage and interpretation vary among different individuals and groups."
-ChatGPT

"A loose Marxist movement seeking to apply critical theory to matters of family composition, gender, race, and cultural identity within Western society."
-Bing Search Engine



So when we talk of Marxism in threads discussing trans, CRT, DEI, social media manipulations, parenting, marriage, etc.

This is what we mean.



A small nod to a UK member who reminded me that I wanted to write something up on this.



edit on 31-8-2023 by DBCowboy because: I am Batman



posted on Aug, 31 2023 @ 04:33 PM
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a reply to: DBCowboy

Well put. My use of the term commie is just to make it easier for the morons to get the picture.

They can try to dress it up in rainbows and call it social justice, democratic socialism or any other flavor of marxist ideology they want. It all ends up the same. A totalitarian regime in complete control followed by mass poverty, mass starvation, and mass murder.

That's what the left is embracing and in the process of implementing.

I'm just making it easy for you intellectually dishonest or willfully ignorant people by calling communism.

Edit:

I'll also add that they have no problem using fascism to implement their agenda either.
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posted on Aug, 31 2023 @ 04:35 PM
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a reply to: DBCowboy

Marx himself would blush at the new crop of commies, and Hoover would be having a come apart about now.



posted on Aug, 31 2023 @ 04:36 PM
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a reply to: watchitburn

True.

I use the same and am often accused of not knowing what the term means.

Which is also a tool used by the same folks who spend hours redefining terms.



posted on Aug, 31 2023 @ 04:36 PM
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a reply to: DBCowboy

I'm just here for the "no true marxist" and "no true communism" kneejerks.....



posted on Aug, 31 2023 @ 04:38 PM
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a reply to: DBCowboy

Well put indeed.

Also see Cultural Hegemony and Antonio Gramsci.

Maos Cultural Revolution and just for fun Pol Pot and Year Zero.

The last one reminds me of today's obsession with Net Zero.


Don't worry about using the term Commie. They love to bandy the term Nazi about whenever possible. Another tactic to shut down opposing views.




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posted on Aug, 31 2023 @ 04:38 PM
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originally posted by: Klassified
a reply to: DBCowboy

Marx himself would blush at the new crop of commies, and Hoover would be having a come apart about now.



But this is (D)ifferent communism.




posted on Aug, 31 2023 @ 04:41 PM
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So rather than referencing an actual manifesto or anything remotely academic, it's just another ignorant right-wing catch-all for that which they don't like (similar to "woke"). Standard.



posted on Aug, 31 2023 @ 04:49 PM
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a reply to: DBCowboy

To me DB, the description as you present it does make sense as an underpinning of the changes and forces we all can see happening around us. But for me, the term Marxist is a mis-direction as I see little to do with the implementation of Marxist economic theory.

All those bits that are called Cultural Marxism can also be understood as Transitional Capitalism where the capitalist system itself undergoes changes in it's targeted consumer groups as new capitalist organizations struggle against old capitalist organizations for the ownership of the purchasing power of the masses.

Capitalism is famous for it's manipulation of consumers, indeed having turned citizens into consumers in the first place.
As I see it, capitalism won and Marxism lost. Even Russia that made that bold attempt at Marxism failed in the attempt and ended up back in the capitalist system with what can be seen as feudal lords or corporate lords holding power over the corporations that run Russia.. Likewise, even China is no longer Marxist let alone Maoist as they too have become merely one big national corporation.

Hence DB, my aversion to calling it Cultural Marxism, as this diverts our fury from the real problem, the faults within this capitalist system itself. As long as we blame Marxism we will never be able to right the wrongs we see around us.



posted on Aug, 31 2023 @ 04:55 PM
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a reply to: TerryMcGuire

To slaughter a phrase from Winston Churchill, "Capitalism is the worst form of economy, until it's compared to anything else".

Also, don't know who said it, "The difference between Socialism and Capitalism is that in Capitalism man exploits man, in Socialism, it is reversed."



posted on Aug, 31 2023 @ 04:57 PM
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a reply to: Tulpa



They love to bandy the term Nazi about whenever possible. Another tactic to shut down opposing views.

Yes they do.
Sorry, Liberals, But the Nazis Were Progressive Leftists



posted on Aug, 31 2023 @ 04:58 PM
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a reply to: DBCowboy

Our American and even western culture that does what it can to promote self reliance, self governance and empowering of individuals has a base level intelligence requirement.

"Buyer beware" as it were.

Something that iis easily dismissed or worse yet, traded for in the form of gov't protections.

End of the day, we can only blame ourselves for allowing the state to do what its done and effectively lowering the IQ to allow for being taken care of instead of taking care of oneself.



posted on Aug, 31 2023 @ 04:59 PM
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a reply to: DBCowboy

The current usage of the term is slightly misapplied because it's not a goal but a set of tactics.



posted on Aug, 31 2023 @ 05:00 PM
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a reply to: DBCowboy

I like that second one more.



posted on Aug, 31 2023 @ 05:15 PM
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a reply to: DBCowboy

Leftism changed around the 1960s, and has become absolutely nothing like it was when Marx was alive, or the world wide workers movements that his works helped spark them.

I mean, does "cultural marxism" that we see have any resemblance to classical marxism? No, if you broke it down, it's an oxymoron to what Marxism is all about.

Could people take and pick apart aspects of Marxism and run with it? Sure, why not. Cultural Marxism is a product of that.

Could far right conspiracy theorists who think communism was a Jewish plot to take over the world and by proxy Karl Marx being of Jewish ancestry be a thing? Sure is... and it's still running rampant.



posted on Aug, 31 2023 @ 05:23 PM
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a reply to: strongfp

Classical Marxism was rife with corruption from it's inception.

So I feel the term apt considering the end goal is for us to own nothing and be happy.




posted on Aug, 31 2023 @ 05:27 PM
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originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: strongfp

Classical Marxism was rife with corruption from it's inception.

So I feel the term apt considering the end goal is for us to own nothing and be happy.



Corruption, how? Care to point out some examples.

Marx was an angry drunken journalist who hated industrial capitalism and its growing influence on the world. A guy like him pointing out that a handful of fat cats owning monopolies over everything was going to come along.

If Marx were alive today he'd probably align with the American right as he was a free speech absolutist, for the working class, and hated the corrupt rich.



posted on Aug, 31 2023 @ 05:30 PM
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a reply to: strongfp

Leftism hasn't changed. It's still the same as it was 150+ years ago. They've tried to change the wrapper, but the product has the same ingredients it has always had.



posted on Aug, 31 2023 @ 05:33 PM
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a reply to: Klassified

Gonna need some context on that.

You're talking to a guy who is for the working class above all. And understanding Marxism is part of that, just to clarify, I'm not dogmatic about it, 60% of his works are worthless in my opinion.



posted on Aug, 31 2023 @ 05:34 PM
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originally posted by: strongfp

originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: strongfp

Classical Marxism was rife with corruption from it's inception.

So I feel the term apt considering the end goal is for us to own nothing and be happy.



Corruption, how? Care to point out some examples.

Marx was an angry drunken journalist who hated industrial capitalism and its growing influence on the world. A guy like him pointing out that a handful of fat cats owning monopolies over everything was going to come along.

If Marx were alive today he'd probably align with the American right as he was a free speech absolutist, for the working class, and hated the corrupt rich.

And what was Marx's solution?



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