Missouri IS Protecting Children effective August 28th 2023

a reply to: datguy

Just so you know — I’m sticking to the kids — what they need in meds and support.

Capitalism is a whole ‘nother discussion.

originally posted by: datguy

originally posted by: quintessentone

Well our sources oppose one another.

That alone should be the warning sign, consider the source...
All your sources are organizations dependent on pushing this agenda, while the opposing sources are simply citing medical science.

I've read many other sources over time I just posted that one, but the conclusions I've come away with from all that research is that there are side effects, yes, but used appropriately there is no permanent damage. It's all in the individual methodology of treatment per patient and everyone is different when it comes to drugs and/or treatments. I also read transpeople's personal views on these types of treatments and they overwhelmingly say it saved their lives. So risk vs. reward? Looks like reward wins out.

a reply to: Annee


Its not though, capitalism is very relevant to the topic. the kids do not need the meds, they are causing more harm long term, we just haven't gotten that far yet its still all very new medically, stop experimenting with the meds and simply support.
If people want to be active and supportive then we need to create a society that accepts them as they are, not trying to change them, when they are adults, they can make whatever changes they want, if its not too late

The truth about transgender surgery... in numbers: Just 16% of gender dysphoria patients go through with the operation, but up to half suffer life-threatening complications

originally posted by: datguy
a reply to: Annee


Its not though, capitalism is very relevant to the topic. the kids do not need the meds, they are causing more harm long term, we just haven't gotten that far yet its still all very new medically, stop experimenting with the meds and simply support.
If people want to be active and supportive then we need to create a society that accepts them as they are, not trying to change them, when they are adults, they can make whatever changes they want, if its not too late

The truth about transgender surgery... in numbers: Just 16% of gender dysphoria patients go through with the operation, but up to half suffer life-threatening complications

I’m not going to do sensationalism.

It is a new medical field and more specialists are needed.

Same issue with Autism. Finding a qualified medical team.

In the meantime, doctors are trying to learn right along side the patient and their parents.

I know — because I’ve been there.

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: datguy

originally posted by: quintessentone

Well our sources oppose one another.

That alone should be the warning sign, consider the source...
All your sources are organizations dependent on pushing this agenda, while the opposing sources are simply citing medical science.

I've read many other sources over time . . .

Can’t even tell you how many articles I’ve read.

Over time you can pick out the bogus/slanted in about 2 seconds.

AG Andrew Bailey

twitter.com...

We put on highly qualified experts, unlike the plaintiffs, who put on experts that have a financial and reputational interest in pushing for irreversible gender transition interventions.

Europe has recognized that it’s strange to treat a psychiatric diagnosis with irreversible hormones instead of counseling. We got a leftist expert to admit that they didn’t know that Sweden proved the harms to gender transition interventions outweigh the benefits

When Sweden brings in somebody independent, conducts a gold-standard study, publishes it in a peer-reviewed journal, and then concludes that the harms outweigh the benefits, it’s callous and negligent not to take that finding very seriously.

When even progressive countries like Sweden, Norway, Finland, and the United Kingdom have all sharply curtailed these procedures, it’s time for the United States to course correct.

Moms4Liberty

twitter.com...

Missouri standing strong & successful in defending children. 🇺🇸

Thank you
@AGAndrewBailey
👏 👏 👏

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: datguy

originally posted by: quintessentone

Well our sources oppose one another.

That alone should be the warning sign, consider the source...
All your sources are organizations dependent on pushing this agenda, while the opposing sources are simply citing medical science.

I've read many other sources over time . . .

Can’t even tell you how many articles I’ve read.

Over time you can pick out the bogus/slanted in about 2 seconds.

For sure, and I'll stick with objective scientific sources that don't have agandae attached to their 'opinions'.

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: datguy

originally posted by: quintessentone

Well our sources oppose one another.

That alone should be the warning sign, consider the source...
All your sources are organizations dependent on pushing this agenda, while the opposing sources are simply citing medical science.

I've read many other sources over time . . .

Can’t even tell you how many articles I’ve read.

Over time you can pick out the bogus/slanted in about 2 seconds.

For sure, and I'll stick with objective scientific sources that don't have agandae attached to their 'opinions'.

Given the arguments you have made and the links you have provided this statement is as much an oxymoron as the term "gender affirming"

originally posted by: datguy

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: datguy

originally posted by: quintessentone

Well our sources oppose one another.

That alone should be the warning sign, consider the source...
All your sources are organizations dependent on pushing this agenda, while the opposing sources are simply citing medical science.

I've read many other sources over time . . .

Can’t even tell you how many articles I’ve read.

Over time you can pick out the bogus/slanted in about 2 seconds.

For sure, and I'll stick with objective scientific sources that don't have agandae attached to their 'opinions'.

Given the arguments you have made and the links you have provided this statement is as much an oxymoron as the term "gender affirming"

As I stated previously I have researched this topic extensively and the main point is that the transkids health and wellbeing are top priority not any of our 'feelz' about it.

a reply to: quintessentone

then why do you ignore the actual science and post biased information that does not support this claim?

originally posted by: datguy
a reply to: quintessentone

then why do you ignore the actual science and post biased information that does not support this claim?

I have made my point, if you don't like it then swipe on by this is getting tedious.

a reply to: quintessentone

afraid to answer the question?

originally posted by: datguy
a reply to: quintessentone

afraid to answer the question?

I already have numerous times go reread from page 1 of this thread.

a reply to: quintessentone

hmmm, no, no you havent answered the question "why do you ignore the actual science and post biased information that does not support this claim?"

and in other threads you make comments like ...

www.abovetopsecret.com...

Flat earthers and people who refuse empirical evidence, such as the neuroscience with transgendered studies, are one in the same.

Meanwhile you hypocritically refuse empirical evidence, such as the science of studies about the negative effects of GnRH and transgender surgeries, instead opting to promote biased agendas from special interest and for profit organizations.

originally posted by: datguy
a reply to: quintessentone

hmmm, no, no you havent answered the question "why do you ignore the actual science and post biased information that does not support this claim?"

and in other threads you make comments like ...

www.abovetopsecret.com...

Flat earthers and people who refuse empirical evidence, such as the neuroscience with transgendered studies, are one in the same.

Meanwhile you hypocritically refuse empirical evidence, such as the science of studies about the negative effects of GnRH and transgender surgeries, instead opting to promote biased agendas from special interest and for profit organizations.

As stated previously my sources refute your sources so here we are.

originally posted by: datguy
a reply to: quintessentone

afraid to answer the question?

Don’t be childish.

Answers have been provided.

Not agreeing with them is a different matter.

a reply to: quintessentone

your sources from special interest and for profit organizations hardly refute the current science, this is simply ignorant if you really believe that.
I have shown that your sources obfuscate and take information out of context from biased and paid for "surveys" in order to further their agenda.
My sources are, well...science, and law,
which by the way went into affect today, no bans, no vetoes, no injunctions, just law

a reply to: Annee

so its now childish to expect people to back up their false claims?

They got called out for their hypocrisy

originally posted by: datguy
a reply to: Annee

so its now childish to expect people to back up their false claims?

They got called out for their hypocrisy

Yes, that was childish.

You have another poster providing info with links.

Just because you don’t like what they provided does not mean they didn’t answer.

I end the conversation when anyone does that to me.

originally posted by: Annee
Can’t even tell you how many articles I’ve read.

Over time you can pick out the bogus/slanted in about 2 seconds.

You mean you can pick out that which you don't agree with in about 2 seconds.
Just because you disagree with it doesn't make it bogus/slanted.
Case in point, I posted good solid information and you dismissed it as right wing propaganda.
However, the information I posted quoted the CDC, MAYO Clinic, and St. Louis Childrens Hospital.
Not exactly right wing sources.