Missouri IS Protecting Children effective August 28th 2023

originally posted by: quintessentone
Absolutely they care nothing for these transkids health and wellbeing.

Says you. You don't know their motivation to be able to say that with any credibility.

And MOST of the children who think they are TRANS ... are NOT.
Yet you'd give them these mutilating drugs anyways.
ENABLING a fad instead of doing the common sense thing of waiting it out.
WHo cares for the children again? Not those who would give the drugs.

originally posted by: Annee
History does not lie.

Don’t mess with the baby maker — says God

That makes no sense at all.

There is no 'history' to speak of.

These lawmakers are protecting children from mutilating drugs. It's just that simple.

You are interjecting something that does not exist.

originally posted by: FlyersFan

originally posted by: quintessentone
That decision is not yours, mine or anyone else's to make, save the child, parent and team of medical professionals.

It's the job of the law makers to protect citizens from bad drugs, bad doctors, bad policies. This is a common sense law protecting children from harm. So now you think parents should be in on the decisions of a possible TRANS child? Elsewhere here you supposed schools not having to tell parents that their child thinks he or she is trans. So which is it? Parents should know and be part of the process or not? Make up your mind.

Yes, parents should be part of the process but not in a vacuum. Child, parents and counsellors, then if required, the appropriate medical professionals; to wait it out, figure it out, deal with it. Not shut it down by calling it a 'fad' without proper investigation.

As for others involvement: not you, not me, and certainly not the general unknowledgeable public nor a political party with an agenda to obtain votes from certain political ideologies.

originally posted by: Annee

The people/voters/politicians in denial of gender-care/transgender are the same demographic that want to deny abortion, same sex marriage, Civil Rights, etc

Nothing to do with what’s best for “the kids”.

I'm sorry you feel that way, you could not be more wrong. I'm not sure why you think this but please consider that I am only trying to spread information to help people, not hurt them.
My niece's and a nephew ( I don't have any children ) are all going through this ordeal as are you and yours. I have no agenda against any demographic except those who push agenda like this, harming children for profit/population control

Your comment is what I call a FNORD, please learn what the term means, please read the information provided

originally posted by: FlyersFan

originally posted by: quintessentone
Absolutely they care nothing for these transkids health and wellbeing.

Says you. You don't know their motivation to be able to say that with any credibility.

And MOST of the children who think they are TRANS ... are NOT.
Yet you'd give them these mutilating drugs anyways.
ENABLING a fad instead of doing the common sense thing of waiting it out.
WHo cares for the children again? Not those who would give the drugs.

Calm down, we agree more than disagree.

Most do go through a phase, but some don't, so those are the transkids by the wayside. BTW the rates these kids actually are transkids is growing at a high rate every year. Now that could be due to it being like a #metoo movement, coming out of the close so to speak, or that science is catching up with the physical reality of this phenomenon.

originally posted by: quintessentone
Calm down, .

I'm not uptight. No need to tell me to 'calm down'.

Read the information provided.
The drugs are not as 'no permanent damage' as you say.
You saying that the law makers don't care about kids is unsubstantiated.

originally posted by: FlyersFan

originally posted by: quintessentone
Calm down, .

I'm not uptight. No need to tell me to 'calm down'.

Read the information provided.
The drugs are not as 'no permanent damage' as you say.
You saying that the law makers don't care about kids is unsubstantiated.

I posted sources explaining when the drugs are used appropriately there is no damage.

It's all political for votes, c'mon you know that.

originally posted by: quintessentone
I posted sources explaining when the drugs are used appropriately there is no damage.

You posted a source. I posted multiple sources saying the opposite.

It's all political for votes, c'mon you know that.

If you wish to be cynical, that's on you.

originally posted by: FlyersFan

originally posted by: quintessentone
I posted sources explaining when the drugs are used appropriately there is no damage.

You posted a source. I posted multiple sources saying the opposite.

It's all political for votes, c'mon you know that.

If you wish to be cynical, that's on you.

All your sources stated 'possible side effects' and do you know why 'possible' was added in? Because it is dependent on many factors of useage. My sources specifically state when used appropriately there is no damage.

I am not cynical I am realistic when it comes to Christian Republican political policies.

originally posted by: FlyersFan

originally posted by: Annee
History does not lie.

Don’t mess with the baby maker — says God

That makes no sense at all.

There is no 'history' to speak of.

These lawmakers are protecting children from mutilating drugs. It's just that simple.

You are interjecting something that does not exist.

NO — they’re not.

They’re keeping their job by catering to the voter demographic.

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: FlyersFan

originally posted by: Annee
History does not lie.

Don’t mess with the baby maker — says God

That makes no sense at all.

There is no 'history' to speak of.

These lawmakers are protecting children from mutilating drugs. It's just that simple.

You are interjecting something that does not exist.

NO — they’re not.

They’re keeping their job by catering to the voter demographic.

Of course they do, that's how it's done; job security.

originally posted by: quintessentone

It's all political for votes, c'mon you know that.

As is the case with any politics, but when will you realize that this more about the corporation/pharmaceutical companies pushing product for profit.
Doctors and Psychiatrists alike get paid by these companies to push and promote product, its not the first time its been done and wont be last

And the lawsuits come rolling in:

Three families with transgender children have filed a lawsuit asking a judge to block a new Missouri law that would ban gender-affirming care for most minors in the state starting next month.

The law, dubbed the “Missouri Save Adolescents from Experimentation Act,” is scheduled to go into effect August 28 and will ban health care providers from performing gender transition surgeries for those under 18 years old. Puberty blockers and hormone treatments for minors will also be banned, but the legislation makes an exception for those who begin receiving treatment before the law goes into effect.

“We are frightened and outraged at Missouri’s assault on our rights as parents to seek necessary health care for our children,” the families said in a written statement released by their legal team. “It places the health and well-being of our children at great risk. It must be stopped.”

www.cnn.com...

originally posted by: quintessentone
All your sources stated 'possible side effects' ...

None of my sources said that. They all just said 'side effects'.
They also said 'possible other side effects' meaning the list wasn't all inclusive.
But the list was clear. These things are not effect free and mutilate children.

originally posted by: datguy

originally posted by: Annee

The people/voters/politicians in denial of gender-care/transgender are the same demographic that want to deny abortion, same sex marriage, Civil Rights, etc

Nothing to do with what’s best for “the kids”.

I'm sorry you feel that way, you could not be more wrong. I'm not sure why you think this but please consider that I am only trying to spread information to help people, not hurt them.
My niece's and a nephew ( I don't have any children ) are all going through this ordeal as are you and yours. I have no agenda against any demographic except those who push agenda like this, harming children for profit/population control

Your comment is what I call a FNORD, please learn what the term means, please read the information provided

Sorry, I don’t mean you personally. I know there are good, truly concerned individuals — such as yourself.

originally posted by: FlyersFan

originally posted by: quintessentone
All your sources stated 'possible side effects' ...

None of my sources said that. They all just said 'side effects'.
They also said 'possible other side effects' meaning the list wasn't all inclusive.
But the list was clear. These things are not effect free and mutilate children.

Well our sources oppose one another.

a reply to: quintessentone

old news and the law was passed and signed into law AFTER this lawsuit was filed

also in line with my previous comment lets look at the entire article

Major medical organizations believe it is medically necessary for transgender and nonbinary people to help them transition

Major medical organizations pushing a "for profit" agenda

“There are zero FDA approvals of puberty blockers or cross-sex hormones that treat gender dysphoria in children,” Missouri Attorney General Andrew Bailey, one of the defendants in the lawsuit, said in a statement on social media. “We’re not going to let left-wing ideologues experiment on children here in the state of Missouri,” he added.

originally posted by: quintessentone

Well our sources oppose one another.

That alone should be the warning sign, consider the source...
All your sources are organizations dependent on pushing this agenda, while the opposing sources are simply citing medical science.

originally posted by: datguy

originally posted by: quintessentone

It's all political for votes, c'mon you know that.

As is the case with any politics, but when will you realize that this more about the corporation/pharmaceutical companies pushing product for profit.
Doctors and Psychiatrists alike get paid by these companies to push and promote product, its not the first time its been done and wont be last

I stand with it being religious/political. Check out the map's banning realities and corresponding political ideologies.

Bans on best-practice medical care represent one of the most extreme and coordinated political attacks on transgender people in recent years. These bills target transgender youth by blocking their access to best-practice medical care, care that is backed by years of rigorous research and endorsed by the American Academy of Pediatrics, the American Medical Association, and other leading health authorities. These bills not only display a fundamental lack of understanding of transgender children, but they also ban access to medical care often by criminalizing either the doctors or even the parents of transgender youth seeking to provide best-practice medicine for children in their care.

www.lgbtmap.org...

a reply to: quintessentone

another social engineering agenda?
stop, just stop, all your sources are biased and should be ignored over medical science

I love how they use the term "best practice medical care" while you ignore the warnings from the company that makes the drugs

They literally called themselves "movement advancement project" do you not see the obvious agenda?