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Trump says he will skip GOP presidential primary debates

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posted on Aug, 21 2023 @ 07:26 PM
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a reply to: opethPA




When you have Biden and Trump as your primary choices both parties are failing the country.


Fair point.

What percentage of R's support Trump?

That's the difference.



posted on Aug, 21 2023 @ 07:27 PM
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a reply to: JinMI

I agree. Unfortunately there’s incredibly loose laws about campaign finance and lobbyism. The latter made up of a lot of former government employees.

Reform campaign finance and say you can’t lobby or consult after holding some sort of office and we’d be in a much better place.



posted on Aug, 21 2023 @ 07:28 PM
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a reply to: CriticalStinker




I agree. Unfortunately there’s incredibly loose laws about campaign finance and lobbyism. The latter made up of a lot of former government employees.


You're right. And it also applies to social media companies now. Along with former intel agents.



posted on Aug, 21 2023 @ 07:32 PM
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originally posted by: JinMI
a reply to: CriticalStinker




I agree. Unfortunately there’s incredibly loose laws about campaign finance and lobbyism. The latter made up of a lot of former government employees.


You're right. And it also applies to social media companies now. Along with former intel agents.



Agreed. Politics aside, social media is still a stain on society. Unfortunately the populace eats it’s up. It’s almost like they used slot machine engineers to make the code to hijack dopamine receptors.



posted on Aug, 21 2023 @ 07:35 PM
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a reply to: CriticalStinker

People used to say the same about national enquirer and rolling stone.

I see it abit different.

The populace has been dumbed down so far as it can not separate propaganda, rhetoric and fact.

I mean we can point to sociap media and even ban it.

Yet something else would take its place.



posted on Aug, 21 2023 @ 07:45 PM
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originally posted by: opethPA

originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: CriticalStinker

If you haven't figured out by now the shift in voting practices (ballot harvesting, mail-in voting), the censorship going on in social media and MSM during the election, and you still believe the election was on the up and up, then friend, you have supped from the koolaid cup.


Couldn't you just as easily make the same argument the other way?

When you have Biden and Trump as your primary choices both parties are failing the country.


No.

What freedoms has the Trump admin denied?

What freedoms are the Biden admin denying?

You can answer honestly and answer your own question.



posted on Aug, 21 2023 @ 07:45 PM
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a reply to: JinMI

Except there used to be finite options. And if you wanted to fact check them and their history you had to go to the library, go through books and fumble through reels.

Now it takes seconds and it’s in your pocket. Granted, the truth isn’t necessarily easier to find these days, but the information is there to compare very quickly. It’s human nature we lean towards the truths we want. And maybe that’s the crux of it, maybe advancements can’t outpace human nature.

Technology has rocketed in just a few generations. But that wasn’t much time for us to adapt.



posted on Aug, 21 2023 @ 07:49 PM
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originally posted by: CriticalStinker
a reply to: DBCowboy

I’d say Bush and Obama had a pretty good competition at destroying the competition.

I didn’t see anyone after that try and gain some ground on the patriot or espionage act though.


You're right.

We need to eliminate the DHS.

Do you see the democrats or republicans ever doing that?



posted on Aug, 21 2023 @ 07:50 PM
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" Nolte: Donald Trump Is Wise to Skip the Fox News Debate "

" Only a madman who’s up 41 points would risk that lead by participating in a debate with a half-dozen other candidates who—I’m sorry, but this is true—do not matter. "

Mr. Trump is Not Stupid Contrary to some Leftists Belief .



www.breitbart.com...



posted on Aug, 21 2023 @ 07:50 PM
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Except there used to be finite options. And if you wanted to fact check them and their history you had to go to the library, go through books and fumble through reels.


You reinforce my point. Who even knows how to do that anymore? Library of Congress numbers? Book indexes? Reference material that may have you traveling to multiple libraries?




Now it takes seconds and it’s in your pocket. Granted, the truth isn’t necessarily easier to find these days, but the information is there to compare very quickly. It’s human nature we lean towards the truths we want. And maybe that’s the crux of it, maybe advancements can’t outpace human nature.


I agree here. Truth is but at our fingertips. However that's not to be conflated with facts.
For some reason, we seem hardwired to the path of least resistance. Things like sacrifice, dicipline and even being wrong are hard on our mental states. Perhaps though, that's not always been the way, but then how did we get to where we are. There's a deep philisophical discussion there methinks.



posted on Aug, 21 2023 @ 07:59 PM
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I thought maybe the DNC was giving up when the propped up Biden before Super Tuesday to prevent Bernie from winning by having almost half the field drop out so their votes would go to Biden. I was thinking they rather have 4 more years of Trump than having Bernie.

Its not like Republicans have not pulled similar stunts in 2008 and especially 2012 to block votes for Ron Paul.

Both parties are working against the general population, us peasants and rather have us distracted fighting amongst ourselves with the Donkey vs Elephant rhetoric than focus our attention on them.

Unfortunately the US has been conditioned to believing that a 3rd party candidate has no chance, therefore never gets significant votes as most do not want to vote for the loser.

Yet here we are again, looking like another Biden vs Trump election. I get how folks feel like Trump is anti-establishment and looking out for us peasants but his policies say otherwise, despite the belief he is trying to be silenced via legal action.

Had a Democrat did what Trump did, those supporting Trump would expect charges. The difference is that person would no longer be a presidential front runner.


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posted on Aug, 21 2023 @ 08:05 PM
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I get how folks feel like Trump is anti-establishment and looking out for us peasants but his policies say otherwise, despite the belief he is trying to be silenced via legal action.


No, they don't. His policies bolstered a middle class.

But I understand you need to believe what you say in order to justify your hatred. However in the real world, it's not factual nor logical.



posted on Aug, 21 2023 @ 08:07 PM
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The difference is that person would no longer be a presidential front runner.


How do you explain Biden being the Dem front runner then?
Considering he committed real crimes, not manufactured crimes like they are trying to pin on Trump.

I suggest you prepare yourself for MAGA AF in 2024.
Airlines will probably have discounted international flights all ready for you guys.



posted on Aug, 21 2023 @ 08:45 PM
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originally posted by: jrod
a reply to: opethPA

I thought maybe the DNC was giving up when the propped up Biden before Super Tuesday to prevent Bernie from winning by having almost half the field drop out so their votes would go to Biden. I was thinking they rather have 4 more years of Trump than having Bernie.

Its not like Republicans have not pulled similar stunts in 2008 and especially 2012 to block votes for Ron Paul.

Both parties are working against the general population, us peasants and rather have us distracted fighting amongst ourselves with the Donkey vs Elephant rhetoric than focus our attention on them.

Unfortunately the US has been conditioned to believing that a 3rd party candidate has no chance, therefore never gets significant votes as most do not want to vote for the loser.

Yet here we are again, looking like another Biden vs Trump election. I get how folks feel like Trump is anti-establishment and looking out for us peasants but his policies say otherwise, despite the belief he is trying to be silenced via legal action.

Had a Democrat did what Trump did, those supporting Trump would expect charges. The difference is that person would no longer be a presidential front runner.

Lol
The Biden administration is prosecuting their chief political rival.

It’s disgusting
🤮

Those supporting such deserve to lose



posted on Aug, 21 2023 @ 08:52 PM
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why should he debate and get trapped into another indictment?


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posted on Aug, 21 2023 @ 11:34 PM
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pssst: Biden did what Trump did in the documents case, for longer, more often and with less authority.

And Biden did other stuff that Trump didn't do: he sold influence, he accepted bribes and kickbacks for policy, and he sent his pitiful addict son to collect the $$


edit on 8/21/2023 by CoyoteAngels because: (no reason given)



posted on Aug, 22 2023 @ 12:16 AM
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originally posted by: JinMI

That's the difference.


IDK, do you think the long ass shutdowns and the shot mandates would have happened the same under Trump?



posted on Aug, 22 2023 @ 12:19 AM
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As they were largely state level actions, There would have been little he could have done.

Yet, he is very proud of warp speed, would he have gone as far as to mandate it?

I found myself in the unique position of deciding to not touch a vaccine based solely on how political they made it right off.

That's not very bright decision making or reasoning, but it happened to work out.


What do you think?



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