Georgia Indictment

It’s clearly partisan political garbage.
Well done dems.
Jail your political opponents.

Big smiles
Big smiles

Bond for Trump is set at $200,000. He was also given a more detailed list of restrictions in regards to witnesses intimidation than Eastman, whose consent bond was released earlier today.

Yeah
Once again he was not treated equally under the law.

You know
The constitution and stuffs

Looks like Shafer may be the first first co-conspirator looking to cut a deal.

Trump attorneys guided false electors in Georgia, GOP chair says

originally posted by: Threadbare
Looks like Shafer may be the first first co-conspirator looking to cut a deal.

Trump attorneys guided false electors in Georgia, GOP chair says

And Mark Meadows, trumps exchief of staff, apparently has flipped as well.

www.salon.com...

a reply to: olaru12

Meadows is almost definitely cooperating in the special counsel's cases. The fact he was indicted in the Fulton County case was a surprise.

So when the democrats did this, created back up electors to the GOP in 2004, where was the outrage? I think that is what I find 'comical' about all of this. They are being indicted for having a meeting and talking. No one was hurt. No one was killed. No one was threatened...nothing happened.

What did they 'guide' these people to do? I mean, you all know how it works with electors right? There is nothing any of these people could have done unless it came back to the states and the STATE decided on alternate electors. We cannot say that cannot happen because it never has.

This could be the final nail. He could very well be 'convicted' by a jury of his peers but, in the end, this is ALL about making sure he cannot campaign or win in 2024 and for someone so unliked, or hated by so many, why are they so scared?

a reply to: matafuchs

The electoral votes from Ohio were challenged in 2004. I don't see anything about a slate of fake electors submitting forged documents to Congress and the Archivist.

a reply to: Threadbare

So why is it ok if those electoral votes were challenged? Why was the Senate allowed to vote on this but when Trump and others wanted a review it is an insurrection? It was only the second time it had happened. The certification of the count was postponed.....

a reply to: matafuchs

What electors were not duly elected and sent in votes in 2004? Ohio presented 2 objections and there was one faithless elector, but I can't find anything on people who claimed they were duly elected sending in electoral votes to the Archivist.

In Michigan they are indicted because the law in Michigan states the duly elected electors must convene on that date at the Capitol. They were not duly elected and met at the GOP HQ. They then signed the papers stating they complied with those laws and sent them to the Archivist. As Meshawn Maddock stated, they did so at the behest of the Trump campaign. PA and NM electors did change their document to note it was only to be used if the case came back to the states.

As one of the attorneys stated in an email:

“We would just be sending in ‘fake’ electoral votes to Pence so that ‘someone’ in Congress can make an objection when they start counting votes, and start arguing that the ‘fake’ votes should be counted,” Jack Wilenchik, a pro-Trump lawyer based in Arizona, wrote in an email to his colleagues.

There were 3 options Trump was counting on Pence doing:

Most simply, Mr. Trump and his allies sought to convince Mr. Pence to count the pro-Trump slates, reject those saying Mr. Biden had won and thus unilaterally keep the former president in office.

Alternatively, the Trump team hoped that Mr. Pence might declare the election to be irreparably defective and, under the Electoral Count Act of 1887, let state delegations in the House of Representatives decide the election themselves, a process that would also have given Mr. Trump his victory.

In yet a third option, Mr. Trump and his allies thought Mr. Pence could choose to delay the certification of the electors count, providing the former president with more time to prove his claims of fraud or mount a last-ditch challenge in a Supreme Court case.

Fake Electors

a reply to: frogs453

You guys seem hung up on this duly elected thing.

Yall realize that they are elected from their own party..right?

Alternate electors are a thing.

No matter how the MSM tries to sway you.

a reply to: JinMI

You may want to talk to Michele Lundgren who was charged. She claimed “We were called on the phone, asked if we’d come and support President Trump and sign something, and we all went to Lansing."

Apparently you know more than her if you are claiming she was elected from her own party.

Or talk to Ken Thompson who states he was just called because another person was uncomfortable with the whole idea and refused to do it.

a reply to: frogs453

And?

a reply to: JinMI

And, if this was all done last minute, how could they be elected by the state Party?

a reply to: JinMI

You're the one claiming they are duly elected. You may wish to speak to those involved that seem to have no clue that they were elected anything.

So Clark filed for an extension claiming he would be to rushed to get there by Friday. However he waited 9 days to even file that. Some are wondering if it's more of a financial bail problem than a travel problem.

Meadows filed as well. His filing and Fani's response is below. Basically, he's no different than any defendant. He had 2 weeks and warrants will go out on Friday for those who don't appear.

I did see on Trevian Kutti's Instagram that she states she will not turn herself in. So, we'll see how that goes.

a reply to: frogs453

The "delay" of certification, while Ted Cruz's commission executed an intense spot-check investigation of Swing States, was what Team Trump (President Trump, along with attorney's Giuliani and Ellis) had settled on.

See this 1/2/2021 Letter from Senator Ted Cruz: www.cruz.senate.gov... lummis-marshall-hagerty-tuberville

But VP Mike "Judas" Pence didn't play ball with those who wanted the delay.

America has paid a price for allowing the steal, but also learned much. We'll see if Americans have the determination use what we've learned, and prevent it from happening again in 2024.

a reply to: frogs453

As far as I'm aware, Eastman and Hall turned themselves in today. Apparently, Hall's status is listed as detained. So he may not have been able to make bail. Which is ironic considering his profession.

Fulton County Sheriff's Department has recommended that defendants turn themselves in at 3 AM if they don't want to wait to be booked.

originally posted by: olaru12

originally posted by: Threadbare
Looks like Shafer may be the first first co-conspirator looking to cut a deal.

Trump attorneys guided false electors in Georgia, GOP chair says

And Mark Meadows, trumps exchief of staff, apparently has flipped as well.

www.salon.com...

Flip how? Nothing illegal occurred.

Remember: Don't believe the NYTimes/WaPo/CNN, unless they show EVIDENCE. (Text msgs, recordings, testimonies, etc.)

Scum Judge/Jury in D.C., or Scum Judge/Jury in Atlanta.... Why does it matter to Meadows?

Mark Meadows is urging a federal judge to step in before Georgia prosecutors arrest him this week on charges that he conspired with Donald Trump to subvert the 2020 election.

The former Trump White House chief of staff is racing to move the state criminal case into federal court and ultimately have the charges dismissed. He says the charges against him in Georgia stem from his work as Trump’s chief of staff, a federal role that should make him immune to the local charges.

“Absent this Court’s intervention, Mr. Meadows will be denied the protection from arrest that federal law affords former federal officials,” Meadows’ attorneys wrote to U.S. District Court Judge Steven Jones, who is weighing Meadows’ urgent request to transfer the sprawling racketeering case to federal court.

Meadows’ urgency was sparked by Fulton County District Attorney Fani Willis’ rejection of his request to delay his arrest until Jones has a chance to make a ruling, expected next week.

Why it Matters?: www.politico.com...