The English Language is Dead

I am not sure if this is just a US problem or worldwide and I don't know if it can be more contributed to kids listening to ghetto music and idolizing the ghetto "gansta" lifestyle or if this can be attributed to texting and this entire generation of kids growing up with a smartphone in their hands but with that said is anyone else completely sick of words like "tryna" "finna" "bouta" and every other strange lazy contraction they can make. These kids use them as real words and it seems like every meme I see on social media was written by someone using ebonics. Is it so hard to use the English langues the way it was intended? And done even get me started on "sale", "sail" and "sell". I am no English teacher and I did go to public schools but this is getting out of hand.

a reply to: TheTardis

Change happens. A decade or more in Florida, in certain counties, proficiency in Spanish is required to get a government job. That's soon going to be the case in Texas and I foresee the day when it's a requirement for a job with the US government.

And yea, standard "English" is probably dying out with a majority of the US population being replaced with trash English/Ebonics and Spanish.

There's a reason for this. You'll observe that some cultures are Dominant and some cultures are "sub-dominant". Spanish speaking cultures are Dominant in the US. English only speakers in the US are sub-dominant and as well, their fertility rate is far below replacement level and the Birth/Death rate is inverted meaning more die off each year than are born.

You do the maths.

a reply to: TheTardis

Well, I'm Southern so we been sayin' that for a long time.

I'm tryna to get these chores done, cause we fittin go fishin'. I'm bouta tared of these durn kids.

a reply to: DAVID64

Southern as well but I still try not to type it out like that, do I sometimes sure but not in something half way normal, I've seen applications filled out like this, its pitiful.

originally posted by: DAVID64
a reply to: TheTardis

Well, I'm Southern so we been sayin' that for a long time.

I'm tryna to get these chores done, cause we fittin go fishin'. I'm bouta tared of these durn kids.

the southern african american dialect was seen to be similar to that of my grandparents generation, the version that has little intrusion of french that converts dis to this from dat to that etc..

Or ratchet when they mean wretched. That one pisses me off. Some moron couldn't pronounce wretched now we are stuck with ratchet.

a reply to: TheTardis

I think its ironically funny you relate the changes in the "English" language to the cultural and educational shortcomings in the U.S.

It makes me wonder what the English think of how their language has been changed over the years

i wish goolge could translate modern english into "old english"

a reply to: DAVID64

Shonuff. Squeet n go fishn. Nicern thuh evenin.

English is made up of words from many other languages. The progression of spoken language had been hindered by the invention of movable type. It standardized many parts that no longer make sense. Now that everyone has control of the letters, some are using them in non standard ways.

Warning: Put down the drinks before watching the following video.



And that just covers some of the problems with the vowels.

Any of you ever tried reading the 1611 King James Bible?
Would you still want to speak like that?
I'm English myself. I love the poetry of our language, and how we can use 'play on words'.
I hate the 'ghetto-isation' of it.
Innit, bruv.

originally posted by: DAVID64
a reply to: TheTardis

Well, I'm Southern so we been sayin' that for a long time.

I'm tryna to get these chores done, cause we fittin go fishin'. I'm bouta tared of these durn kids.

I was about to say, someone must have never seen regional dialects.

Appalachia, the South, Cajun territory, Midwest, and New England are all places I’ve been where there is completely different uses for words, variations or different words all together.

That’s just America, the UK is smaller and still has different dialects, some even varying within the same city or metro.

The youth now are no different than pop culture from other generations. If there is a difference, I think it’s just that it’s more fluid since OP pointed out the internet.

Things like twitter have shorthand, but when I have conversations people face to face it doesn’t feel much different than a decade or two ago with the exception of a few different slang terms.

a reply to: TheTardis

only a few books have been written in my counties dialect the last was cold comfort farm..

these provincialisms where popular in the early victorian period and collected, in terms of ,y local dialect the first is a trip to lunnon [london] the next was a trip to Merricur, here is the very first paragraph of the preface of the first book.

MOST people want to know when dey buy a book who is de author ov it. So oae says to another, “An who is dis Tom Cladpole wot maaks sich a fuss about he’s travels ?” Why Tom ent ashamed ov he’s clawney, so he wishes me to tell ye a liddle about un. OV Cain was de fust an um, an he jes was a g’urt Farmer; ye may be sure ov dat, fer he built a City ; now uf eny ov our Farmers build a Barn, a Stable, or even a Hog-poun, ’tis thought much ov ! Howsomever uf dis Cain wos a gurt man, he wos loike a dunnamany other gurt men, good for naun ; but good or bad, he wos de Father ov all de Cladpoles, an t’wood taak me up a wick to tell about um all.

when seeking out strange English names a few tend to be from sussex puritan registries, one in particular gets smirked at, fornication which in this dialect means to dawdle, why it was a girls name beats me but it was..

anyone interested in words most english regions have similar dictionaries to this one.. kinda cool if you like words, i still use many and not just topographical features, but nature to.. the curious is my dialect is deeply gendered to the feminine which created an expression "everything in sussex is a she except the tomcat as she is a he"

dictionary of sussex dialect

the late stage victorians and edwardians eradicated most of it along with the stories and folklore to be replaced with london version of english though a lot of the existing still remains and occasionally there is an effort to give it a new life..

a reply to: TheTardis

The English language can't die. It is a compilation of numerous languages. Around 150 different dialects from around the world.

Because it is so widely spoken in so many countries, there are a multitude of ways to pronounce the same word with the same meaning.

American English is extremely versatile. That is why new words are made up almost daily. With time and with echoed use, which has become quite prolific with the advent of the internet, it will continue to grow.

Words that were common when I was a child are not as common today. Each generation will add their own. Especially if they think it keeps the adults guessing.

Anyya oneya emmberare igpa atinla?

a reply to: TheTardis

Also the dozens (hundreds?) of acronyms that are used by the same folks, and people like me have no idea what they mean/have to look them up like "tfw" (that feeling when) "irl" (in real life) etc.

originally posted by: TheTardis
I am not sure if this is just a US problem or worldwide and I don't know if it can be more contributed to kids listening to ghetto music and idolizing the ghetto "gansta" lifestyle or if this can be attributed to texting and this entire generation of kids growing up with a smartphone in their hands but with that said is anyone else completely sick of words like "tryna" "finna" "bouta" and every other strange lazy contraction they can make. These kids use them as real words and it seems like every meme I see on social media was written by someone using ebonics. Is it so hard to use the English langues the way it was intended? And done even get me started on "sale", "sail" and "sell". I am no English teacher and I did go to public schools but this is getting out of hand.

Wait until you hear a kid say LOL....

With that I kind of disagree with you because the English language is the only one that is in constant flux, new words are added yearly... Try that in France and you will be fined, for example.

If this type of rhetoric is offensive you should never go to the UK and hear those "ENGLISH" people speak?🤔a reply to: TheTardis

a reply to: boredhere74

I usually don't either, but just to get the point across......

a reply to: NightSkyeB4Dawn


all versions of english have the same flexibility.. the only constants i see generation to generation appear to be topographical and some nature words..

The language will be alright, just a little bruised. I started school the first year of integration in the South. One of the first things we were asked to do, because of teacher frustration, was to teach another culture how to say and spell "Ask" , as opposed to "Axed". As you probably have found out over the years, we failed. 👍

a reply to: TheTardis

Lots of different ways of speaking English here in the UK, for instance here in the South West, me Babbers:

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a reply to: TheTardis

The English language can't die. It is a compilation of numerous languages. Around 150 different dialects from around the world.

i would think that number just about covers the uk my own county has 3 main dialects split by rivers 20 miles apart, then there are variations between the bigger towns.. if we assume the same of the 92 historic counties, then england alone could have at least 300 different dialects..

off the back of that we have the various migrations, my county is known to have settled a few specific places in greater numbers than others which'll impact the dialect in the receiving region, for mine the main ones are the quakers off to Philadelphia, and after that the next big one was on the prison hulks to van Damen's land after that the next wave was to settle in Ohio whee many seem to become mormons..

I think the dialects are in the thousands rather than hundreds..