Am I the only one who suspects DT may have had the protesters let in somehow?

originally posted by: Solvedit

originally posted by: NorthOfStuffx2
By outnumbering law enforcement 10 to 1 you’d think they would have achieved it.

Can it be the goal of most of them was to protest the certification of the election results, but a small cadre of provocateurs hoped to make it snowball into a riot and then a coup?

I think you hit the nail on the head. But was a coup really the goal? I guess the question is, who were the provocateurs?

Perhaps one of them was the "reporter," John Sullivan, a known antifa member, who said on camera that they needed to burn the place down, as he was entering the capital, and then got the police to leave just before Ashli Babbitt was shot? No, it wasn't him. He's a reporter in Ukraine now, I believe. Nothing to see here. Perhaps one was Ray Epps, who is also on camera encouraging people to storm the capital? No, it's not him; he was cleared and did a television interview. Nothing to see here either.

So, who were the provocateurs?

On a side note: I've always found that the coincidence of the gates/doors being opened just as the Senators were beginning their objections to the election... (In essence, halting the process. Afterwards, Sen. Graham said that after what just happened he could not object to the election, and the others followed suit.) ...convenient.

originally posted by: Dapaga
I think you hit the nail on the head. But was a coup really the goal? I guess the question is, who were the provocateurs?

You're playing it like Tucker Carlson and coloring it a smear campaign by Antifa and the far Left.

What if it wasn't? What if it was Donald Trump?

a reply to: Solvedit

There’s absolutely no evidence for this and imo borderline TDS.

originally posted by: Grenade
a reply to: Solvedit
There’s absolutely no evidence for this and imo borderline TDS.

There's means, motive, and opportunity.

originally posted by: NorthOfStuffx2
This is the Left doing the same thing with Donald Trump.

No, not Left.

I have lost faith in DT after voting for him once. I went Independent in 2020.

a reply to: Solvedit

But absolutely no evidence. You need more than a dislike for Trump to make people take these accusations seriously.

a reply to: Solvedit
It was quite devious really. A Democrat phsyop. With actual footage of Pelosi "fleeing" for her life.
Means:- a few agitators.
Motive:- to make it look like a riot therefore an "insurrection".
Opportunity:- this was planned in advance.
Look at the evidence. Just who has gained the most from Jan 6th? And they are still milking it.

a reply to: crayzeed

So the Oath Keepers didn't have a cache of weapons stashed outside the city they planned on bringing in once they had control of the Capitol?

a reply to: Threadbare
NO, you obviously don't know how an insurrection works. You use weapons first to take over, not try and take over with banners first. Cache of weapons heh? I wonder who also planted a supposed couple of bombs?

originally posted by: crayzeed
a reply to: Solvedit
It was quite devious really. A Democrat phsyop. With actual footage of Pelosi "fleeing" for her life.
Means:- a few agitators.
Motive:- to make it look like a riot therefore an "insurrection".
Opportunity:- this was planned in advance.
Look at the evidence. Just who has gained the most from Jan 6th? And they are still milking it.

Planned in advance and you're saying that all those poor "Patriots" who if you've ever read any of the breach cases, just happened to get together with others to make a plan to go, pick up items, like bear spray,tasers,flexicuffs, other improvised weapons like sharpened flag poles and ax handles, knives, hammers, bats, 800 volt walking sticks, etc., then with those items, they were just peacefully protesting until some "fed" made them attack the police line, enter the building and use those weapons against the police? Not to mention the Oath Keepers and Proud Boys who had documented elaborate plans.

Guess you also missed the many social media videos from days before the 6th? Including Ashli Babbitt's rant about how she was ready to fight to death? They were ready for a battle.

So yeah sure, makes sense right? Nancy knew that "Patriots" would come equipped to do battle, and were so stupid they could be tricked into the attack on the Capitol?

That's a good one. There are plenty of sources to read what these people said in court and plenty to read on the DOJ Breach site here

a reply to: Shillkill

Happy reading! I know you will be sad that this includes Rhodes own texts, messages, etc. The pdfs are there for reading. You can then read the rest of the Seditious Conspiracy crews cases as they are also named in his.

Rhodes Breach Case

But if you prefer not to actually dig deep into it and just want references to the evidence in the court case, this is lighter reading.

WUSA9

a reply to: crayzeed

Unless you've been tipped off beforehand that you'll be facing minimal resistance. Then you would rely on improvised weapons at first so as to not show your hand. Then bring in the big guns once you've secured a beachhead.

Isn't it interesting that Trump's inner circle had a meeting on January 5th at the Willard Hotel and the very next day we have photos of Roger Stone and Oath Keeper leaders together in front of the same hotel? I'm sure the special counsel's interest in that meeting and the fact that multiple participants are seeking immunity deals means nothing.

a reply to: Shillkill

These cases aren't being decided by a secret tribunal. The court records are publicly available to anyone who wants to access them. Feel free to go through them and come back with evidence that says I'm lying.

originally posted by: Shillkill
a reply to: Threadbare

You are a liar . I’ve been reading your posts . 20 a day . Nothing truthful in any of them . Just propaganda. You don’t care for the truth . You’re here promoting an agenda . Is that not clear enough for you . I’m not going on about secret tribunals . I’m calling you out for what you are . Obviously your ignorance knows no bounds . I’d say happy 4th of July but you probably just celebrate the passing of the patriot act .

Meanwhile you have completely ignored links provided to you, that again contain the leader of the Oath Keepers own texts, messages, etc. I see that you are a very new member. Just so you are aware the ATS motto has been "Deny Ignorance", which is why links and things are added, so that you can actually gather information instead of screeching "lie!"

. totally not staged. Not an orchestrated photo shoot.

a reply to: Mangler7

You find the media documenting a historic event to be strange?

a reply to: Threadbare

Take a sec, use reasoning, look at photos. They were placed in the capitol. There are pro media photographers in the pics. There is zero threat in all photos. Either you're a bot, or you lack critical thinking.