Special Counsel's J6 Case

a reply to: olaru12

Well obviously Trump didnt hire the moles then.

a reply to: Mahogany

Trump is a con man. He is a poor man's idea of a rich man, a weak man's idea of a strong man and a stupid man's idea of a smart man.

And you think Biden is not? Or any career politician for that matter? You prefer rich cons to poor cons? A man 'stupid' we had four years of prosperity versus the three years since?

The people in this thread defending Trump... do you really, truly, after years and years of tens of thousands of documented lies and dozens of failed lawsuits really still believe a single word this man says?

Can you really be that gullible? Or do you know he's a liar and he's just making stuff up left and right, but you just choose to go along with the lies?

Which one is it? I have a very hard time believing people can be so naive for so many years.

Did it ever occur to you that it's not one man people are defending but the systemic corruption that's being used to drive an agenda and target someone unfairly and repeatedly with paid for evidence?

Trump tried to support all people and increase security-Biden has destroyed all that. Trump brough jobs and prosperity back; Biden brough inflation and halted industries.

I have a hard time believing people can allow their hatred of one man to make them so naive, but it seems to be the case.

If a Democrat, any Democrat, was investigated as hard as your president Donald Trump they probably would have been hung lol.

a reply to: AngryCymraeg

originally posted by: yuppa

originally posted by: AngryCymraeg
a reply to: nugget1

Christopher Krebs, the director of the Cybersecurity and Infrastructure Security Agency - appointed by Trump - said that the election was fair and there were no widespread irregularities of the kind that Trump was ranting wildly about.
Trump fired him.

Trumps admin appointed him not trump personally. and we all know there were moles in trumps admin.

Who appointed his admin?
If I were to hire a group of individuals to help me run a company, and they repeatedly hired bad actors then whose fault is it? Well we could easily pass the blame onto the person that hired the bad actor. Yet at a certain point of continuing to hire bad actors then maybe me the owner is to blame.
That is how that works. Every single corporation operates in exactly that manner.

a reply to: nugget1

They constantly lie about what he said. I cannot believe that the prosecutors think that he is guilty of what he didn't say.

They know better. That makes them EVIL.

originally posted by: Stopstealingmycountry

originally posted by: yuppa

originally posted by: AngryCymraeg
a reply to: nugget1

Christopher Krebs, the director of the Cybersecurity and Infrastructure Security Agency - appointed by Trump - said that the election was fair and there were no widespread irregularities of the kind that Trump was ranting wildly about.
Trump fired him.

Trumps admin appointed him not trump personally. and we all know there were moles in trumps admin.

Who appointed his admin?
If I were to hire a group of individuals to help me run a company, and they repeatedly hired bad actors then whose fault is it? Well we could easily pass the blame onto the person that hired the bad actor. Yet at a certain point of continuing to hire bad actors then maybe me the owner is to blame.
That is how that works. Every single corporation operates in exactly that manner.

The Republican majority did nothing but block Trumps choices repeatedly, forcing him to choose some really bad actors for all of these positions:

Secretaries of the 15 Cabinet agencies, deputy secretaries, undersecretaries, and assistant secretaries, and general counsels of those agencies: Over 350 positions
Justices of the Supreme Court: 9 positions (Supreme Court justices serve for life subject to death, retirement, resignation or impeachment.)
Certain jobs in the independent, non-regulatory executive branch agencies, like NASA and the National Science Foundation: Over 120 positions
Director positions in the regulatory agencies, like the Environmental Protection Agency and the Federal Aviation Administration: Over 130 positions
U.S. Attorneys and U.S. Marshals: About 200 positions
Ambassadors to foreign nations: Over 150 positions
Presidential appointments to part-time positions, like the Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve System: Over 160 positions

[url=https://www.thoughtco.com/presidentially-appointed-jobs-requiring-senate-approval-3322227]

a reply to: nugget1

He is only to blame for that and lately I have come to realize that. He came out the door swinging and name calling and all sorts of things that would in every situation in life put a target on your back. He gets no sympathy from me. And just because they blocked his choices. For the most part they did not btw, why would someone pick others not qualified for the job?

a reply to: nugget1

He himself sang the praises of his picks. He lauded Barr, he said about Wray, a man the right fiercely hates now.

“He is an impeccably qualified individual, and I know that he will again serve his country as a fierce guardian of the law and model of integrity once the Senate confirms him to lead the FBI.”

His closest aides and advisors referred to as the "A Team" had a 92% turn over rate. Link Whether they were fired, or left after disagreeing with Trump, that is still a huge percentage.

8 people who had worked on his campaign or in WH positions he put them and he considered close allies have been charged and/or found guilty of crimes.

This is the type of leader you want to see again in charge?

a reply to: frogs453

This is the type of leader you want to see again in charge?

After three years under Biden, yes.

a reply to: Saloon

You're arguing with the same people who fully supported Al Gore's demand for a recount, and another and another when it continually didn't go the way they wanted it to, and the same people who cried about election integrity and fraud for 4 years after their party undercompensated enough Hillary votes and lost the election in 2016. It's only a problem to them when the other side questions an election. Everyone should know that there's no way a crusty old perverted racist white dude would ever get 81 million votes, a guy who has been a politician for half a century and never did one single thing to better this country, a guy who was called out by the media (when they were still honest) for being a liar and deceiving. Everybody knows he would never legitimately beat a guy who ran America First policies and had this economy booming. If you do run across someone who truly believes Biden could beat Trump, they're not worth the characters you're wasting in arguing with them.

originally posted by: nugget1
a reply to: frogs453

This is the type of leader you want to see again in charge?

After three years under Biden, yes.

We didn't need three years of Biden, the Obama Administration was enough for me to want to see Trump in charge. Prior to 2012, Trump would've never made it past the first primary. I'm glad he did though, he showed this country, and anybody with their eyes open, how much good the right people can do for a country this big. It's unfortunate that liberals have infiltrated our public education system and brought up so many dependent people. A true shame.

originally posted by: Stopstealingmycountry
a reply to: nugget1

He is only to blame for that and lately I have come to realize that. He came out the door swinging and name calling and all sorts of things that would in every situation in life put a target on your back. He gets no sympathy from me. And just because they blocked his choices. For the most part they did not btw, why would someone pick others not qualified for the job?

Blocked by congress and/or senate:

Andrew Puzder Labor 2016
Ronny Jackson Veterans Affairs 2018
Patrick M. Shanahan Defense 2019
John Ratcliffe National Intelligence
Chad Wolf Homeland Security 2021
[en.wikipedia.org...]

Senate Democrats block two Trump Cabinet picks by boycotting vote

[www.usatoday.com...]

US Senate blocks confirmation of Trump Fed nominee Shelton

[www.aljazeera.com...]

It just seems sad to me that the system is set up where your only choices are questionable establishment members that have to be approved by the corrupt establishment.
Perhaps Trump hoped for a little loyalty and cooperation and fired them when worked against him? Obviously he couldn't separate all the wheat from the chaff since there's very little wheat left in the political ranks. To have a more effective administration he'd have had to do a much wider sweep, Twitter style; we all know that's impossible at this point.

During the last year or so I saw Trump trying to play politician and make deals with the devils/career politicians. He has neither the clout nor the political mindset to ever win at such games.

The last thing I wanted to see was a country under Biden's rule, but I'm not sure Trump could have pulled off a successful second term. There were too many sharks in the water, and Trump was already hemorrhaging badly from all the negative press.

a reply to: LSU2018

You know what I agree.

Anyone who wouldn't vote for Trump isn't worth a reply.

Let alone an argument.

a reply to: Saloon

Right, because that is the best way to ignore his very own people have testified to criminal acts when it's pointed out to you. This way, you can pretend it doesn't exist, instead of admitting that you couldn't care less if he is a criminal, you'll vote for him. So he can then pardon himself, and any allies. Then as he said in SC focus on arresting all the "radical DA's" in the country among his other great ideas. Still no health plan though 7 years and waiting from the "2 weeks" he was going to announce it.

a reply to: Saloon

Way to put your head in the sand. It is that kind of think that is not helpful when it come to problem solving.
I must admit though at some point when a conversation becomes inflamed there is almost no reason to respond unless you are the kind of person that has the ability to bring someone back to reason. Not everyone has that in them.

a reply to: frogs453

Is Biden working on a health plan?

a reply to: Stopstealingmycountry

Way to put your head in the sand. It is that kind of think that is not helpful when it come to problem solving.

The only real problem I see is the liberal left.

To realize you can't argue with the problem is an observation that
can never be made with ones head in the sand.

Just calling attention to the obvious.

a reply to: CoyoteAngels

Here's some things that's been done, being worked on etc.

Link

Link

Link

And I've just provided them because you asked but that was just another thing Trump said, but obviously had no intention of doing. 3 years after his two weeks he presented an empty binder during an interview, claiming it was his plan.

a reply to: frogs453

Looks like Biden just extended the plan already enacted during the Biden admin, without the penalty for not having health care insurance which was removed by Trump.

Trump gave us the transparency in costs from hospitals by E.O.

This is off the top of my head.

originally posted by: AngryCymraeg
a reply to: Saloon

Trump??? Donald Trump??? Innocent?????
I'm sorry, I just paused to laugh hysterically. He's disgustingly corrupt, he always has been. His father taught him well. There are tradespeople in New York who turn and spit at the mention of his name, because he stiffed them on paying for work they did for him. The man refuses to see anything wrong in stiffing other people (as that way he keeps his money) and refuses to admit that he's ever wrong. Remember the Central Park Five? He took out adverts in the papers urging that they get the death penalty. When DNA evidence proved them guilty did he admit that he was wrong? Are you kidding me - of course not!
He has the morals of a depraved alley cat, married three times, cheated on all of them, accused of rape and molestation multiple times, he's on tape admitting what part of a woman he likes to grab, he sleeps with and pays off porn stars.
We know he fiddles his taxes, the man has paid little if any taxes on multiple years thanks to fraudulent accounting practices.
He used his presidency to try and get as money out of as many people as possible, whilst wilfully failing to understand the limitations of the legal powers at his disposal. He is a malignant narcissist who refused to believe that he could possibly have lost the 2020 election and who then broke the law again and again to try and change the result. And then there was the documents fiasco. It's got to the point where his lawyers are probably breaking down and crying every time he opens his big fat lying mouth and digs the hole he's in deeper and deeper.
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Wow. That was cathartic.

whatever dude,
biden takes bribes.

find me votes means look again to make sure you didn't miss any.
not sure what you people think it means.