Special Counsel's J6 Case

a reply to: Saloon

Hmm... what's a few hundred thousand to trick his believers? You believe it makes him a saint because he did that. Because then in his numerous grift these same believers donated millions, his unqualified, unable to get security clearance children raked in over 640 million while in the WH positions he put them in, over the objections of everyone. Not to mention the millions and millions he's still grifting, and again his family? Jared a cool 2 billion from SA, either from the connections he made while Whats App'ing MBS or from the Iranian military plans that Trump was showing off a month before the SA reps came to Bedminster, that has disappeared. No way of knowing, since Comer shut down the investigation into this 2 billion in January to focus on Biden and 5 million.

a reply to: frogs453

He's bragged about purposely keeping government documents, those that work for him and even a celebrity claim that he showed them documents and maps he had no business doing.

HA! All hearsay unless you have any proof? Are you so mixed up
you think showing someone documents is reason enough to
interfere in our election process? Because no one who loves
this country would support that. You can't even show any proof
they have against DT. You're just on the web sucking up the lies
once again.

But at least your persistant in the futility. of choking on the
lefts corrupt lies. Good luck with that.

a reply to: frogs453

what's a few hundred thousand to trick his believers? You believe it makes him a saint because he did that.

Well you are entitled to your opinion no matter how bad it makes you look.

a reply to: AngryCymraeg

When did Krebs say this? Before the challenges were heard? After any audits?

If anyone put forth that opinion before an honest investigation of the allegations, I'd fire them too. Barr included.

People have opinions that early on. Not facts.

originally posted by: Saloon
a reply to: frogs453

He's bragged about purposely keeping government documents, those that work for him and even a celebrity claim that he showed them documents and maps he had no business doing.

HA! All hearsay unless you have any proof? Are you so mixed up
you think showing someone documents is reason enough to
interfere in our election process? Because no one who loves
this country would support that. You can't even show any proof
they have against DT. You're just on the web sucking up the lies
once again.

But at least your persistant in the futility. of choking on the
lefts corrupt lies. Good luck with that.

Yeah right. Read the indictment. Read about his staffer shown the map, Read about Kid Rock talking about being uncomfortable when Trump was showing him maps of NK. It's all available to read using your search engine of choice.

Again, these are his people, his own attorneys stated Trump asked them to destroy documents and "pluck the bad ones out" so they were not returned to the government. Again, in the indictment. You seem to think this is all just made up stuff. These people have made these statements, provided texts, photos, all in a court of law.

I get it, you'll never believe anything other than your messiah. It would be devastating to understand you were tricked and lied to. Better double down I guess for your own sanity.

originally posted by: Threadbare
a reply to: Blueracer

Giuliani Sat for Voluntary Interview in Jan. 6 Investigation

Georgia Secretary of State Raffensperger to meet with special counsel investigators

Prosecutors are prepared to hit Trump and his allies with new charges, sources say

Trump pressured Arizona Gov. Doug Ducey to overturn 2020 election

You seem to be buying what the press above is selling hook, line, and sinker. MSM likes to play with words such as

During a now-infamous phone call days before the Capitol attack on Jan. 6, 2021, Trump demanded Raffensperger to “find” almost 12,000 votes to reverse Joe Biden’s victory in the battleground state.

Bold mine. That is from one of your links. Did President Trump withhold the national guard that he publicly asked for? Gen. Kellogg: Trump did request Nat’l Guard troops on Jan. 6th; asks Congress to release his testimony

“The President told Mr. Miller that there would be a large number of protestors on January 6, 2021,” the DoD report states. “And Mr. Miller should ensure sufficient National Guard or Soldiers would be there to make sure it was a safe event. Gen Milley told us that Mr. Miller responded, ‘We’ve got a plan and we’ve got it covered.'”

Bold mine.
Did Trump tell his supporters to "attack" the capital? Not at all. Trump said

I know that everyone here will soon be marching over to the Capitol building to peacefully and patriotically make your voices heard.

Bold mine. Read Trump's Jan. 6 Speech, A Key Part Of Impeachment Trial
Did President Trump call in Jayden X and other anifa/blm memebers like him to stir up #? J6er and Antifa Member Jayden X, Who Orchestrated Utah’s ‘TERRIOTEST’ Plan to Storm the Capitol on January 6, Is Living And Working as A War Correspondent in Ukraine… NOT IN JAIL

The militant Antifa and Black Lives Matter leader who notoriously disguised himself as a Trump supporter during the January 6 Capitol riot, destroying federal property and riling up the crowd to “Burn this # down” and paid by the corporate press for footage of the Ashli Babbitt shooting is not in jail with other J6 defendants.

Another Violent J6 Prisoner Reveals He is an Antifa Operative and Communist – And He Admitted it to FBI in Debriefing (Audio)

Michael Waller, a senior analyst for strategy at the Center for Security Policy specializing in propaganda, political warfare, psychological warfare, and subversion, said he was at the Capitol on January 6 and witnessed:

* Plainclothes militants. Militant, aggressive men in Donald Trump and MAGA gear at a front police line at the base of the temporary presidential inaugural platform;

*Agents-provocateurs. Scattered groups of men exhorting the marchers to gather closely and tightly toward the center of the outside of the Capitol building and prevent them from leaving;

*Fake Trump protesters. A few young men wearing Trump or MAGA hats backwards and who did not fit in with the rest of the crowd in terms of their actions and demeanor, whom I presumed to be Antifa or other leftist agitators; and

*Disciplined, uniformed column of attackers. A column of organized, disciplined men, wearing similar but not identical camouflage uniforms and black gear, some with helmets and GoPro cameras or wearing subdued Punisher skull patches.

There is more but I've already spent more than enough time on this post. Don't have time to write a book.

a reply to: Saloon

Here is the point most people miss:

Both the 2016 and the 2020 elections were interfered with. The Obama admin started the crooked behavior. From that point on, I don't trust any of it.

Even if you can't find a single vote that was fraudulently cast, both elections were interferred with, using powers of govt to do so.

Neither were fair. And 2024 is following suit.

a reply to: Blueracer

Thank you for taking time to write this post. Nicely done.

a reply to: AngryCymraeg

I am genuinely at a loss when people call Trump 'innocent'. The man is utterly

Maybe I can help

Anyone who time after time comes away from allegations and investigations
and charges and impeachments. By hostile powers in Washington and comes away
unscathed? Must at the least be cleaner then any of the obvious crooks
trying to hang him so desparately. Your hate is giving you delusions I do believe.

I see treason in Washington, but I don't see it with Trump. Those who are attacking him nonstop are the same who push for murder of millions of innocent children throughout the US. They are especially working hard to see that minorities children are the first ones slaughtered in the womb. These people who push for their right to murder others have no basic moral values. If each one of them disappeared today, the Earth would begin healing immediately.

a reply to: frogs453

Ditto for Biden and Hunter family.

So, we have a choice between two crooks.

What do we do now?

Vote for POLICY?

Still comes down to Trump for at least half the country.

a reply to: Blueracer

Well you do realize that John Sullivan was outed as a grifter among those in the protest community well before J6. I've posted links of posted warnings about him in 2020. To avoid him, not to engage with him, etc.

Also, he put his location on Twitter as Ukraine. I can put mine as Antarctica if I wish. He's only reposted video that is available from numerous sources. He's now posting stuff from Paris. Did he hop a plane to run there? Talk about gullible.

And let's say he actually was there. Are you aware that numerous people awaiting trial for J6 who were non violent have been allowed by the court to go, out of the country and to various states? For vacation, weddings, football games, etc. If Twitter didn't recently f up and now won't allow non Twitter users to see it, I'd recommend you follow Scott MacFarlane. He posts all the court and trial info on J6 defendents.

a reply to: frogs453

I get it, you'll never believe anything other than your messiah. It would be devastating to understand you were tricked and lied to. Better double down I guess for your own sanity.

It's Russian misinformation bra! lol

Sad to see hate blind so many smart people otherwise I'm sure.

All you have to do to understand they have nothing on Trump?
Is consider how often and long they've tried to dig up something
anything.
And that's even after the embarrassment of having to make
something up and having no evidence. Typical pile of Schiff.

You don't have to support Trump amigo. But can we at least agree not to
support the looney left commies? Whatta ya think?

originally posted by: CoyoteAngels
a reply to: Saloon

Here is the point most people miss:

Both the 2016 and the 2020 elections were interfered with. The Obama admin started the crooked behavior. From that point on, I don't trust any of it.

Even if you can't find a single vote that was fraudulently cast, both elections were interferred with, using powers of govt to do so.

Neither were fair. And 2024 is following suit.

Well said

originally posted by: frogs453
a reply to: Blueracer

Well you do realize that John Sullivan was outed as a grifter among those in the protest community well before J6. I've posted links of posted warnings about him in 2020. To avoid him, not to engage with him, etc.

Also, he put his location on Twitter as Ukraine. I can put mine as Antarctica if I wish. He's only reposted video that is available from numerous sources. He's now posting stuff from Paris. Did he hop a plane to run there? Talk about gullible.

And let's say he actually was there. Are you aware that numerous people awaiting trial for J6 who were non violent have been allowed by the court to go, out of the country and to various states? For vacation, weddings, football games, etc. If Twitter didn't recently f up and now won't allow non Twitter users to see it, I'd recommend you follow Scott MacFarlane. He posts all the court and trial info on J6 defendents.

So John Sullivan really is a Trump supporter now?

As reported previously Antifa protester John Sullivan was caught on video posing as a Trump supporter during the rioting at the US Capitol on January 6th.

Non-violent?

Footage obtained by the Gateway Pundit from militant Black Lives Matter and Antifa activist John Sullivan’s Discord server shows the so-called “civil rights activist” reveling inside the U.S. Capitol on Jan 6 as he damaged federal property.

Bold mine.
www.thegatewaypundit.com... pitol-day-spent-one-day-jail/

originally posted by: CoyoteAngels
a reply to: nugget1

He was requesting signature verification in Georgia as well, which is obvious in context with the entire conversation.

Find me the votes, means find the bad votes. You can stop as soon as you find enough to tie + 1. That means that there were enough bad votes to change the outcome.

The opposing team has always just assumed he meant 'manufacture new votes'. He clearly meant "find the cheat".

The 'opposing team' knew exactly what he meant and the only way to get away with their scam was to change the narrative and convince people he meant something else.

They had plenty of practice of how to go about it, starting with the Russian Collusion and continuing on to this day.

Graham and Pence should be barred from ever holding any gov. job again, along with a host of other.

a reply to: nugget1

Graham and Pence should be barred from ever holding any gov. job again, along with a host of other.

I have a theory as to why trump won't run in 24. He will claim the GOP doesn't support him and he would be correct. He may have enough support for a 3rd party however.

I'm looking forward to a 3 way race.

originally posted by: nugget1

originally posted by: CoyoteAngels
a reply to: nugget1

He was requesting signature verification in Georgia as well, which is obvious in context with the entire conversation.

Find me the votes, means find the bad votes. You can stop as soon as you find enough to tie + 1. That means that there were enough bad votes to change the outcome.

The opposing team has always just assumed he meant 'manufacture new votes'. He clearly meant "find the cheat".

The 'opposing team' knew exactly what he meant and the only way to get away with their scam was to change the narrative and convince people he meant something else.

They had plenty of practice of how to go about it, starting with the Russian Collusion and continuing on to this day.

Graham and Pence should be barred from ever holding any gov. job again, along with a host of other.

Lindsey Graham? The Spineless One? The man who I can only presume Trump has Compromat on? What's he done, other than grovel before Trump recently and beg to have his tummy petted? And as for Pence - let me guess, you're mad at him for growing a pair and telling Trump that he couldn't stop the certification of the election on January 6?

a reply to: Saloon

You must have another definition of 'unscathed' than the rest of us use. Trump's being prosecuted for multiple felonies. And there are more indictments coming at him. That's not 'unscathed'. That's the sound of multiple chickens coming home to roost. He's finally running out of legal road - and legal help.

I love these Trump threads, never fail to disappoint.


In my orbit, there is not a single person I know that will vote for Trump in 2024. These are people who voted twice previously for Trump.

As an Independent, I have chosen to retire from voting...it seems rather pointless.