By 2030 you will not eat meat and allowed only three items of new clothing a year, report says

originally posted by: AngelHeart
You #ing idiots will believe anything.

Alright , prove me wrong then. You will , undoubtly, believe everything the MSM spews.
whatever with ATS, this place is going down fast .

originally posted by: ancientlight

originally posted by: strongfp
a reply to: ancientlight

Yes, and it's the government that's taking advice by a bunch of political scientists and economists, and they're finding out what happens when they take the advice from a bunch of new age shamans. A war on agriculture is a war on everyone eventually.

You can be sure the 1% have their own private land for farming , far away from general farming . Probably on some islands, or who knows where. Their food production won't be affected.

Bill Gates has been buying up a lot of farmland. Consider it just another level of maniacal desire for control along with the Common Core empire and the depopulation agenda, where he makes a gazillion bucks and the rest of us are in poverty. His is the abuse of capitalism while throwing us to the wolves of society green agenda and totalitarian control. Same with Soros.

a reply to: ancientlight

As much damage they want to inflict to reach the utopian Agenda 2030 goals I see 2050 being floated as the next deadline. They certainly are accelerating the Agenda.

originally posted by: ADSE255
I haven't eaten meat in 3 years. I'm still alive.

Time will likely not exist by the end of the year

There is a huge difference between just surviving and thriving...

originally posted by: ancientlight
Saw this in another forum.
Another criminal plan layed out for us all to see. Rules for thee but not for me , we can be sure of as well.
How can people on the 'left' on here read this report and still claim we are making things up when it's all layed out in the open.

expose-news.com... ree/

Let's take this further and explore what this will mean. Let's say you decided to go to college , studied for years, became a doctor, lawyer, engineer etc.
In order to be able to live in nicer safer neighbourhood, be able to eat out more, be able to travel more and longer etc.
Travel was my motivation , as well as live in a safe/nice neighbourhood . But with everything planned to be constricted, why would anyone bother to become a doctor anymore? Or a scientist, engineer etc. May as well just stick to cleaning toilets as it won't make a difference.

Society will collapse. I've been saying this will cause our downfall. Idiocy and mediocracy has been consistently rewarded instead. Criminal behaviour has been rewarded also instead . This will not end well. Society will not thrive and continue to explore/grow as this is not rewarding behaviour.

The second I'm constricted in any way by this I will drop all work and just be done with it all. Fu*k it all then.

This is about as believable as "Obama is gonna take away mah guns!"

originally posted by: ThirdEyeofHorus

originally posted by: ancientlight

originally posted by: strongfp
a reply to: ancientlight

Yes, and it's the government that's taking advice by a bunch of political scientists and economists, and they're finding out what happens when they take the advice from a bunch of new age shamans. A war on agriculture is a war on everyone eventually.

You can be sure the 1% have their own private land for farming , far away from general farming . Probably on some islands, or who knows where. Their food production won't be affected.

Bill Gates has been buying up a lot of farmland. Consider it just another level of maniacal desire for control along with the Common Core empire and the depopulation agenda, where he makes a gazillion bucks and the rest of us are in poverty. His is the abuse of capitalism while throwing us to the wolves of society green agenda and totalitarian control. Same with Soros.

Been awhile since hearing the "Bill Gates buying all the farmland" story..tell me of what consequence/control .03% is? because that's the amount he owns in total. I'm not a Gates fan, but want honest informed discussions here.

This is doom porn, not saying we aren't on a questionable path though.

originally posted by: HilterDayon
a reply to: ancientlight

I don’t know about the specifics, but there does seem to be some universal law of reality at work.
I think it is because it is the destiny of all human beings to be free. It all depends on one’s understanding as to what freedom actually is. The first thing is that freedom involves tremendous responsibility - on a personal level. People generally want to avoid recognising that responsibility.
The whole social system as it is, exists because people are immature and seek pleasure at any cost. This is the time where man is at the season of a new phase of growth from a sapling into a mighty oak.
The time of nursery rhymes and bedtime stories is over. If the opportunity is not recognised and lost and people cry for the continuation of the past, then the wheels will turn in a different direction.
Nature abhors a vacuum they say and if you don’t eat the bear, the bear will eat you. It is because man’s destiny is to be free that freedom will be removed if not acted upon. What will happen and has been happening is social control accelerating towards total control of what it means to be human. The spokesman has already spoken: “to redefine what it means to be human.”

I’m sure everyone has had the experience of being given the challenge of making a decision and deciding poorly and then living to be punished by the consequences. Whatever comforts we have known under the waning old system will be removed. The sadist now will dream up the rules of engagement. The recipe is simple: whatever they like, do the opposite. If they love eating bugs then force them to eat beef. Etc etc.

The ultimate future projection I think, is H.G. Wells’ story of the Time Machine and Orwell’s warning of a boot stamping on a human face forever. What is meant by that? It sounds rather exaggerated. Or is it?

The idea anyone is free is probably a bit of an illusion anyway, unless you wear a lioncloth and live far away in a forest or jungle, live completely self sustained. Otherwise, we all live under "someones" thumb, or rules.

a reply to: strongfp


So how do you explain what's happening in Holland/ the Netherlands?

Their government, in cahoots with the mandates of the World Economic Forum, are in the process of shutting down/ trying to shut down 3000 beef/ dairy farms, against the will of the farmers & vast swathes of the populace.

How are we going to stop this from happening in every first world nation if they succeed in the Netherlands?

This is scary stuff, no more kid talk, the rubber is meeting the road & I don't think we have long to push the word out more forcefully into the world so as to put a stop to this madness.

a reply to: FlyInTheOintment

The WEF isn't behind it all... I can almost confidently say that. On the same vien, those who attend and openly speak at the WEF are sort of behind it all.

The governments who are taking these ridiculous steps are listening to people who think they know best. On the bright side, and I mentioned this already, those policies are being met with people power. Mess with food, and people will revolt.

As a side note tho, I have read that in places like the Netherlands, fertilizer and nitrogen shortages are becoming a thing. Will cattle production be sustainable without?

Geez,people.Just get on Twitter and read posts from the WEF,WHO,and the UN.They ALL are open about the agenda.Reduce word population,digital money,15 minute cities abolish farming and eat artificial meat and insects,no rights
for most people,China to basically be the enforcement and model for the rest.Of course the elite are going to live like the kings of old.

originally posted by: strongfp
a reply to: FlyInTheOintment

The WEF isn't behind it all... I can almost confidently say that. On the same vien, those who attend and openly speak at the WEF are sort of behind it all.

The governments who are taking these ridiculous steps are listening to people who think they know best. On the bright side, and I mentioned this already, those policies are being met with people power. Mess with food, and people will revolt.

As a side note tho, I have read that in places like the Netherlands, fertilizer and nitrogen shortages are becoming a thing. Will cattle production be sustainable without?

a reply to: ridgerunner

The WEF isn't some entity that dictates government policies, but it is a think tank of corporations that do lobby and pay massive amounts of taxes to governments.

It's almost like a modern day Oxford University back when it had huge sway on nation leaders.

originally posted by: strongfp
a reply to: ridgerunner

The WEF isn't some entity that dictates government policies, but it is a think tank of corporations that do lobby and pay massive amounts of taxes to governments.

It's almost like a modern day Oxford University back when it had huge sway on nation leaders.

Here klaus schwab is saying the WEF has infiltrated goverments globally:
www.bitchute.com...

originally posted by: ancientlight
Saw this in another forum.
Another criminal plan layed out for us all to see. Rules for thee but not for me , we can be sure of as well.
How can people on the 'left' on here read this report and still claim we are making things up when it's all layed out in the open.

There is a huge difference between a paper and actual government policy. This is a paper. It's interesting but I don't think all of it's doable (though I like the idea of buying used clothing from Goodwill rather than a whole closet full of new things) and not everyone's going to be on board.

There's a LOT of papers out there on many different things. You can find something to terrify or offend anyone in those papers. Nothing ever comes of them.

A polite suggestion is to look at legislation and political activities supported by more than 5 or 6 legislators rather than wasting time on op-eds and speculative papers.

a reply to: strongfp

I think the WEF is in deeper than you think.

World Economic Forum and UN Sign Strategic Partnership Framework

New York, USA, 13 June 2019 – The World Economic Forum and the United Nations signed today a Strategic Partnership Framework outlining areas of cooperation to deepen institutional engagement and jointly accelerate the implementation of the 2030 Agenda for Sustainable Development. The framework was drafted based on a mapping of existing collaboration between the two institutions and will enable a more strategic and coordinated approach towards delivering impact.

The UN-Forum Partnership was signed in a meeting held at United Nations headquarters between UN Secretary-General António Guterres and World Economic Founder and Executive Chairman Klaus Schwab.

And of course first on the todo list is financing this agenda.

a reply to: ancientlight

I've seen that whole talk and it's cherry picked. He doesn't mention the world infiltrate, and he's clearly just trying to boast his company's image by saying "look at all these young leaders who signed up to my fancy club!".

The WEF is a opt in membership, anyone can buy in, just because some people think it might be advantageous to add to their resume that they are a WEF member doesn't mean they are building their domestic policies around what Klown Shwab thinks.

Putin was more than a member once, he was a top contributer, so is president Xi, are they taking orders from him? Laughable...

The gullibility of some people is astounding. Maybe you deserve such nonsense claims to come true? Whatever happened to critical thinking for yourself? I suppose it went the way of common sense and context? Certainly not evident round here ....

a reply to: fernalley

Why wouldn't they work together?
You need to understand the history of the WEF and its purpose, and why it was formed, its not the only place like it. It's just in the sights of conspiracy theorists because of its lobby influence that corporations use it for. Which I keep reiterating, it's who uses the WEF that has the power, not the WEF itself.