UFO hunter claims new photos are ‘definitive evidence’ that ‘we are not alone’

originally posted by: ArMaP
a reply to: DaydreamerV

How can you know that the object is "miles away"?

To know that we would need to know the size of the object, and we do not know that.

The photo isn't good enough and doesn't have enough information for us to use "distance fog" to judge for relative distance either.

Yes, we cannot 'know' the size of the object. But we can tell approximate size based on at least one factor. If it is an alien craft with the crew then it has to be the size of a school bus. Will this be helpful in estimating the distance in the photo?

originally posted by: DaydreamerV
But we can tell approximate size based on at least one factor. If it is an alien craft with the crew then it has to be the size of a school bus. Will this be helpful in estimating the distance in the photo?

The problem with that is that is based on two assumptions:
1 - it's an alien craft;
2 - alien craft with crew have to be the size of a school bus.

That doesn't tell us the size of the object, that tells us the expected size of an alien craft with crew based on the above assumptions, that do not have any facts supporting them.

The fact is that, as we do not recognise the object and do not have any way of knowing its size or distance from the camera it's impossible to judge either of the variables, size and distance. The only thing I think we can say with some certainty is that it was below the clouds, but it could be either a bus sized alien craft at 1 km or a bird at 30 metres.

PR: Even if we knew of the variables, size or distance, we would need to know something about the camera lens to know the other variable. As we know the model we can see that the camera has a zoom lens, so we would need to know the zoom level to be able to know the the other variable. Even if it was a fixed lens camera, as it looks like that image was cropped (it's not in a standard format or resolution), we don't know how much of the full image is missing.

That's why it is important to have access to the original photo, as digital cameras record all that technical information along with the image.

Look to me quite conclusive.

We are not alone .....

..... we share our planet with birds (and insects).

a reply to: ArMaP

I’m going to go with the non-scientific, non-technical, non-forensic ….hillbilly approach……analogy

If it looks like a duck and flys like a duck……..then it must be a duck

🥴

👽

The problem with that is that is based on two assumptions:
1 - it's an alien craft;
2 - alien craft with crew have to be the size of a school bus.

And what is wrong with these two assumptions?

originally posted by: DaydreamerV

The problem with that is that is based on two assumptions:
1 - it's an alien craft;
2 - alien craft with crew have to be the size of a school bus.

And what is wrong with these two assumptions?

How do we know the size of the aliens? They might not even be able to get a single tentacle inside a school bus. Or their entire civiliation could fit on the driver's seat.

a reply to: DaydreamerV

They aren't based on facts.

originally posted by: ArMaP
a reply to: DaydreamerV

They aren't based on facts.

So what? We simply speculating about what is this might be. Since OP suggests UFO, we are discussing just this very possibility.

a reply to: DaydreamerV

Then why limit an alien craft to the size of school bus? Why not 3 miles long? Why not 30 centimetres?

If we are talking about an unknown thing we cannot attribute it an arbitrary value as if it was a fact.

originally posted by: ArMaP
a reply to: DaydreamerV

Then why limit an alien craft to the size of school bus? Why not 3 miles long? Why not 30 centimetres?

If we are talking about an unknown thing we cannot attribute it an arbitrary value as if it was a fact.

Hey, I am just chilling on ATS)) It is very entertaning, escpecially for someone who has witnessed a ufo.

You are absolutely right...it could be anything. But it certainly is not a bug. Not even sure if one can take a picture of a bug like that one, thinking the camera won't be able to focus on it without washing out all the background details.
A bird...may be.
If I am to believe in OPs end result magnifying that object, if there is no creative image manipulation, then it looks like a classic UFO. And has to be the size of at least of a school bus.

When you look through OP pictures what do you see? A bug? A bird?

originally posted by: DaydreamerV
You are absolutely right...it could be anything. But it certainly is not a bug. Not even sure if one can take a picture of a bug like that one, thinking the camera won't be able to focus on it without washing out all the background details.

It depends on the camera settings, something we do not know.

If I am to believe in OPs end result magnifying that object, if there is no creative image manipulation, then it looks like a classic UFO. And has to be the size of at least of a school bus.

Don't believe magnifying that creates new pixels were there were none, this is what the image looks like when resized.

When you look through OP pictures what do you see? A bug? A bird?

An unknown.

a reply to: ArMaP


Looking at that picture you posted above, gave me goosebumps. You still think it's not an alien craft?

a reply to: Ophiuchus1

Great! We need some photos of traditional saucer-type ufos rather than the lately odd series of garbage cans, weird little colored orbs, squiggly shaped drones, and other over-the-top objects of unknown origin.

A good old fashion flying saucer is what we need indeed.

a reply to: DaydreamerV

I still think it's more likely to be something common than something from a supposed Alien civilisation we don't even know if it exists or not.

originally posted by: ArMaP
a reply to: DaydreamerV

I still think it's more likely to be something common than something from a supposed Alien civilisation we don't even know if it exists or not.

For sure. But I have to note...Once you see the sighting yourself, any sighting, your approach to these kind of photos will shift whether you want it or not. It's all reasonable. Until then though, there is no officially any known evidence of aliens presence on Earth as they say.))
cheers)

originally posted by: DaydreamerV
But I have to note...Once you see the sighting yourself, any sighting, your approach to these kind of photos will shift whether you want it or not.

Maybe, maybe not.

Not all people react the same way.

originally posted by: ArMaP

originally posted by: DaydreamerV
But I have to note...Once you see the sighting yourself, any sighting, your approach to these kind of photos will shift whether you want it or not.

Maybe, maybe not.

Not all people react the same way.

What if you see it for the second time? Will anything change?

a reply to: DaydreamerV

If the circumstances change, maybe. If nothing changes, why should the reaction change?

originally posted by: ArMaP
a reply to: DaydreamerV

If the circumstances change, maybe. If nothing changes, why should the reaction change?

Thanks for being honest and logical. Wishing us to look up a little more often, find the beauty of the night sky. You will get to know it above your head and if any deviation from the usual happens, you will recognize it immediately and you will be amused because it is 'them'.

a reply to: DaydreamerV

I look at the sky at all opportunities, as I love looking at it, even with all the light pollution from a big city.