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California girl sues doctors over breast removal gender-affirmation surgery at 13

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posted on Jun, 16 2023 @ 11:40 AM
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Source: bioedge.org...


American children whose lives were ruined by gender-affirmative medication and surgery are resorting to litigation to seek justice. The latest case to surface in the media is a 18-year-old Californian woman known as Layla Jane, who is suing doctors at Kaiser Permanente, a huge American medical group. They gave her puberty blockers and testosterone when she was 12 and performed a radical double mastectomy when she was only 13.

Layla was a severely troubled 11-year-old when she self-diagnosed herself as suffering from gender dysphoria. Her mother took her to doctors who recommended testosterone and a mastectomy after just two face-to-face consultations lasting 30 and 75 minutes. The lawsuit alleges that the doctors presented Layla’s parents with the false dilemma: “would they rather have a live son, or a dead daughter?”

Her lawyer, Harmeet Dhillon, of the Center for American Liberty, in San Francisco, says: “This so- called ‘treatment’ of Layla by her providers represents a despicable, failed medical experiment that grossly breached the standard of care.”

Ms Dhillon also represents Chloe Cole, another young woman who had a double mastectomy at 15 because she thought that she was really male. She says that she has received thousands of calls from detransitioners from all over the country.



The Hospital driven by ideology n profit carried a very dangerous-failed-medical experiment to affirm the anxiety n confusion of an otherwise healthy teenager who may have been helped with counselling n psychotherapy-but instead prescribed her puberty blockers n hormones n within six months they removed her breasts via a double mastectomy-the best of 'science' one can get- I don't really understand this standard of care-but I think I know who is behind these gender-affirmation surgeries -it's not difficult to guess-

What do you think should be the punishment for these doctors who presented the family with the fake dilemma: do you prefer a dead daughter or a live n healthy son? --what about those who are behind this business?



posted on Jun, 16 2023 @ 11:42 AM
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Layla was a severely troubled 11-year-old when she self-diagnosed herself as suffering from gender dysphoria. Her mother took her to doctors who recommended testosterone and a mastectomy after just two face-to-face consultations lasting 30 and 75 minutes. The lawsuit alleges that the doctors presented Layla’s parents with the false dilemma: “would they rather have a live son, or a dead daughter?”


Was she diagnosed by psychologists as a suicide risk?
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posted on Jun, 16 2023 @ 11:47 AM
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a reply to: quintessentone

Isn't quintessentone supposed to trust the experts? Wouldn't they have been the ones to recommend a psychological consult as the experts over the parents?



posted on Jun, 16 2023 @ 11:49 AM
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originally posted by: ketsuko
a reply to: quintessentone

Isn't quintessentone supposed to trust the experts? Wouldn't they have been the ones to recommend a psychological consult as the experts over the parents?



Depends on the experts-



posted on Jun, 16 2023 @ 11:51 AM
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originally posted by: linda72

originally posted by: ketsuko
a reply to: quintessentone

Isn't quintessentone supposed to trust the experts? Wouldn't they have been the ones to recommend a psychological consult as the experts over the parents?



Depends on the experts-


Was this girl a suicide risk? Simple question.



posted on Jun, 16 2023 @ 11:53 AM
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originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: linda72

originally posted by: ketsuko
a reply to: quintessentone

Isn't quintessentone supposed to trust the experts? Wouldn't they have been the ones to recommend a psychological consult as the experts over the parents?



Depends on the experts-


Was this girl a suicide risk? Simple question.


why don't you read the article I have linked?



posted on Jun, 16 2023 @ 11:53 AM
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originally posted by: ketsuko
a reply to: quintessentone

Isn't quintessentone supposed to trust the experts? Wouldn't they have been the ones to recommend a psychological consult as the experts over the parents?



Remember now, the parents should have no say in their children's care. The "experts" should have final and absolute authority over the authorization to mutilate children's genitalia. /Sarcasm

Oh and any and all experts that say that genital mutilation and puberty blockers could possibly cause a child harm are suddenly not "experts" anymore, because they are hateful bigots and far right wing whackos. Did I do that right?



posted on Jun, 16 2023 @ 11:56 AM
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originally posted by: linda72

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: linda72

originally posted by: ketsuko
a reply to: quintessentone

Isn't quintessentone supposed to trust the experts? Wouldn't they have been the ones to recommend a psychological consult as the experts over the parents?



Depends on the experts-


Was this girl a suicide risk? Simple question.


why don't you read the article I have linked?


Why don't you define this sentence:

"Layla was a severely troubled 11-year-old when she self-diagnosed herself as suffering from gender dysphoria."

What does severely troubled mean to you?

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posted on Jun, 16 2023 @ 11:59 AM
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a reply to: linda72

In the beginning throes of Covid I lost all faith in the medical and nursing industry and haven’t worked as a registered nurse since. I saw doctors making other nurses get the new vaccine as they quickly unlearned and abandoned all the science we’ve accumulated over the last century.
I saw even more smug and uppity nurses who were so proud of their vaccine that’s so great that it won’t work unless I get mine too.....yeeeaaaaah. It’s a cult. They’ll even dance on the clock while you beg for pain medicine.
All the while telling what heroes we all are and how we’re all underpaid.

They don’t give a damn about their credibility and they think they’re the smart ones.

This whole live son or dead daughter talk is a hostage situation and I’m glad I got out when I did.

I hope the general public can wake up to the farce that is the medical and nursing industry. It makes Enron and FTX look like child’s play



posted on Jun, 16 2023 @ 12:01 PM
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originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: linda72

originally posted by: ketsuko
a reply to: quintessentone

Isn't quintessentone supposed to trust the experts? Wouldn't they have been the ones to recommend a psychological consult as the experts over the parents?



Depends on the experts-


Was this girl a suicide risk? Simple question.


The article says her doctors said what they said, and since they are NOT psychologists they were not professionally able to give the advice they gave. That's the real basis for the law suit.

Having said that, no one made any professional determination if she was a suicide risk. Perhaps her doctors should have thought about that before considering themselves instant psychiatrists all because of nutty politics which has been driving the insanity.

Kaiser is a large health care conglomerate and they are following leftist ideology. I've had run ins with the stunts they try to pull on patients. I know what they are capable of, and the well being of patients comes second to their politics.



posted on Jun, 16 2023 @ 12:02 PM
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originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: linda72

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: linda72

originally posted by: ketsuko
a reply to: quintessentone

Isn't quintessentone supposed to trust the experts? Wouldn't they have been the ones to recommend a psychological consult as the experts over the parents?



Depends on the experts-


Was this girl a suicide risk? Simple question.


why don't you read the article I have linked?


Why don't you define this sentence:

"Layla was a severely troubled 11-year-old when she self-diagnosed herself as suffering from gender dysphoria."

What does severely troubled mean to you?


Severely troubled means nothing. It is flowery catch-all talk for someone trying to sound professional and failing.

I had sausage instead of bacon this morning. My stomach finds that severely troubling.
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posted on Jun, 16 2023 @ 12:03 PM
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originally posted by: Jorge1986s

originally posted by: ketsuko
a reply to: quintessentone

Isn't quintessentone supposed to trust the experts? Wouldn't they have been the ones to recommend a psychological consult as the experts over the parents?



Remember now, the parents should have no say in their children's care. The "experts" should have final and absolute authority over the authorization to mutilate children's genitalia. /Sarcasm

Oh and any and all experts that say that genital mutilation and puberty blockers could possibly cause a child harm are suddenly not "experts" anymore, because they are hateful bigots and far right wing whackos. Did I do that right?


Straight to surgery- let's affirm the confusion so we can make money out it-

Am I right?

20-25 years in prison for the doctors will be fair-



posted on Jun, 16 2023 @ 12:04 PM
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originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: linda72

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: linda72

originally posted by: ketsuko
a reply to: quintessentone

Isn't quintessentone supposed to trust the experts? Wouldn't they have been the ones to recommend a psychological consult as the experts over the parents?



Depends on the experts-


Was this girl a suicide risk? Simple question.


why don't you read the article I have linked?


Why don't you define this sentence:

"Layla was a severely troubled 11-year-old when she self-diagnosed herself as suffering from gender dysphoria."

What does severely troubled mean to you?


anxiety n confusion created by adults n passed to young people



posted on Jun, 16 2023 @ 12:04 PM
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originally posted by: Notabot12345666

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: linda72

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: linda72

originally posted by: ketsuko
a reply to: quintessentone

Isn't quintessentone supposed to trust the experts? Wouldn't they have been the ones to recommend a psychological consult as the experts over the parents?



Depends on the experts-


Was this girl a suicide risk? Simple question.


why don't you read the article I have linked?


Why don't you define this sentence:

"Layla was a severely troubled 11-year-old when she self-diagnosed herself as suffering from gender dysphoria."

What does severely troubled mean to you?


Severely troubled means nothing. It is flowery catch-all talk for someone trying to sound professional and failing.

I had sausage instead of bacon this morning. I find that severely troubling.


It must have meant something to her mother to be worried enough to take her for help in the first place.

Well, the court trial will bring out exactly how all of this came about and if the doctors can prove suicidal intent.



posted on Jun, 16 2023 @ 12:05 PM
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a reply to: linda72

I remember hearing tons of stories about how Kaiser jerked people around for surgeries like hip and knee repair, replacement and other necessary stuff. And how hard it was to get a specialiist involved. But this particular treatment seems almost fast tracked.



posted on Jun, 16 2023 @ 12:07 PM
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a reply to: quintessentone

What does talent mean to quintessentone? Why do we have to define terms for quintessentone when quintessentone never has to return the favor?



posted on Jun, 16 2023 @ 12:08 PM
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originally posted by: CoyoteAngels
a reply to: linda72

I remember hearing tons of stories about how Kaiser jerked people around for surgeries like hip and knee repair, replacement and other necessary stuff. And how hard it was to get a specialiist involved. But this particular treatment seems almost fast tracked.


Bravo! ----- your observation is correct!

Are you dysphoric? then straight for body-part removal-



posted on Jun, 16 2023 @ 12:09 PM
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originally posted by: ketsuko
a reply to: quintessentone

What does talent mean to quintessentone? Why do we have to define terms for quintessentone when quintessentone never has to return the favor?



What does it mean when Ketsuko follows quintessentone around the board trolling and going off topic, who is she performing for?



posted on Jun, 16 2023 @ 12:09 PM
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All it's going to take is a big award to a victim by a sympathetic jury and you can kiss these kinds of surgeries on minors goodbye.

Bring it. I hope she is awarded tens of millions.



posted on Jun, 16 2023 @ 12:11 PM
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originally posted by: linda72
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What do you think should be the punishment for these doctors who presented the family with the fake dilemma: do you prefer a dead daughter or a live n healthy son? --what about those who are behind this business?


The old "eye for an eye" principle comes to mind.

If the are males, cut off their peckers. If they are female, cut off their breasts and mutilate their genitalia.

I know that it'll never happen, but it'd be right.




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