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Attorney Robert Barnes Explains Why the Trump Indictment is Complete BS

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posted on Jun, 12 2023 @ 01:11 AM
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Attorney Robert Barnes explains that President Trump had the authority to declassify any documents he wanted. The only precedent on the matter was set with Bill Clinton, showing that the president can do it. Barnes argues that the case is riddled with unlawful and unconstitutional errs. He further argues that if the criminal elite win this case, it means the criminal elite are in control the of system of justice and Democracy is out the window.



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posted on Jun, 12 2023 @ 01:19 AM
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Anyone who believes this is anything more than a Democratic deep state election ploy will never believe anything no matter the proof. Hate or love Trump he has been screwed at every turn... That is enough reason why he should have the vote of everyone who wants to see the idiots burn and America great again ie self sufficient in oil, inflation killed, wars stopped, and safety upon the streets of America.



posted on Jun, 12 2023 @ 01:24 AM
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a reply to: 727Sky

Everyone I know who hates Trump still believes he's a corrupt criminal and will be, and should be, put away. I think the truth is only obvious to those following the truth. Most people probably don't know what to think either way.



posted on Jun, 12 2023 @ 01:34 AM
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originally posted by: LoneCloudHopper2
a reply to: 727Sky

Everyone I know who hates Trump still believes he's a corrupt criminal and will be, and should be, put away. I think the truth is only obvious to those following the truth. Most people probably don't know what to think either way.


He may be corrupt but his corruption is not even lent in the bottom of the purse of Clinton. He did more good for America than Many who came before him, starting with however far back one can honestly look. He got us out of so many rip off programs an stopped China from raping us at every turn..... but sadly the smear campaign will work on those who do not rely on facts but emotions.



posted on Jun, 12 2023 @ 01:36 AM
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a reply to: 727Sky

Yes agreed. There are too many broken brains.


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posted on Jun, 12 2023 @ 01:38 AM
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a reply to: LoneCloudHopper2

The Legal Experts at MSNBC know the most serious charges are just more of the same "Get Trump!" fabrications from the same guilt-ridden DOJ. The same Department of Justice that's been after him ever since President Obama (at Hillary's insistence) got the ball rolling.

That's why Liberal Legal nutjobs are demanding Trump-appointed Judge Aileen Cannon RECUSE (dismiss) herself from being the trial judge for this DOJ criminal operation against Presidential candidate, former President, Donald J. Trump.

Corrupt Scum Protects Corrupt Scum: www.foxnews.com...




posted on Jun, 12 2023 @ 02:07 AM
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originally posted by: 727Sky
Anyone who believes this is anything more than a Democratic deep state election ploy will never believe anything no matter the proof. Hate or love Trump he has been screwed at every turn... That is enough reason why he should have the vote of everyone who wants to see the idiots burn and America great again ie self sufficient in oil, inflation killed, wars stopped, and safety upon the streets of America.


Wha'ts really complicating matters is Joe Biden's rapid decline. The News Media is internally tied in knots right now. Fox, CNN, CBS, NYTimes...all of them, due to not having the guts to report what they know is occurring in, and to, Joe Biden's world.

Aside from the latest in a series of B.S. Trump indictments from guilt-ridden "authorities", you also have President Joe Biden fading fast in mental health, physical health...while a Special Counsel (Robert Hur) closes in on him for Selling U.S. Secrets, in addition to U.S. Congressional Investigators uncovering evidence Biden accepted financial (and other) BRIBES from leaders in other countries, to affect U.S. policy decisions.

Also, tonight, former President Trump "re-truthed" this video to those who appreciate what he has done, and wants America back on track again.

"The Takedown of the Cabal" - 5 minute Video: rumble.com...




posted on Jun, 12 2023 @ 03:02 AM
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a reply to: LoneCloudHopper2

it smells a bit like desperation here. is this mister burns really unbiased? what does he know better than his colleagues? wasnt he one of alex jones' lawyers?


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posted on Jun, 12 2023 @ 05:41 AM
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a reply to: malte85

ah, discredit the messenger, so you don't have to deal with his message. That's a new one round here.

LOL!



posted on Jun, 12 2023 @ 05:58 AM
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If Trump were still President he would certainly be in the clear. Maybe his defense should present comprehensive evidence of fraud in the 2020 election. He certainly has standing, I don't see how they could disallow it. It would be the first time ANY court listened to it at all.



posted on Jun, 12 2023 @ 06:14 AM
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Well, he's certainly entitled to his opinion. The charges actually don't rely on classification, but national security. Doesn't the atomic energy act include information on our nuclear capabilities anyway? That does not allow the President to declassify that info unilaterally. Apparently Trump himself on audio states he knew he could not declassify the Iranian military plans out of office. His attorney's never once claimed he declassified documents in any of their court filings. They claimed they were Personal Records. The PRA constitutes those as:



diaries, journals, or other personal notes serving as the functional equivalent of a diary or journal which are not prepared or utilized for, or circulated or communicated in the course of, transacting Government business.”    


Not sure how our and other countries nuclear capabilities and military vulnerability fall into that category.

He also no longer has Executive Privilege as a former President. His lawyer who quit just last week stated this is very bad for him. Apparently he's also having difficulty finding any lawyer to add to the team to defend him. Weird right? I mean if this is such a slam dunk case to win, you would think they would be clamoring to be on the case to have such a huge easy win.
And you have Trump's own AG, whom he bragged about when he hired saying if they can prove this case, Trump is "toast".

But I'm sure random man in the OP knows best. We will see.



posted on Jun, 12 2023 @ 07:15 AM
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The charges actually don't rely on classification, but national security.


How do we know none of the top secret documents senator joe biden illegally took didn't contain such sensitive information? We don't, and probably never will.



posted on Jun, 12 2023 @ 07:21 AM
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a reply to: nugget1

Well, the thing is, Pence too, and this would have applied to Trump, they returned all docs let the feds come and search for more. They did not delay for 16 months after the request, then accept a subpoena but ask their lawyer to destroy documents, move items even to another state to hide them from the feds, from the few he was going to return, ask his lawyer to "pluck" out the bad ones.

If he had simply returned them, we would not be having this conversation.

Oops and I forgot, lie on an attestation to the government that you returned all the requested docs.
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posted on Jun, 12 2023 @ 07:41 AM
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originally posted by: frogs453
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Well, the thing is, Pence too, and this would have applied to Trump, they returned all docs let the feds come and search for more. They did not delay for 16 months after the request, then accept a subpoena but ask their lawyer to destroy documents, move items even to another state to hide them from the feds, from the few he was going to return, ask his lawyer to "pluck" out the bad ones.

If he had simply returned them, we would not be having this conversation.

Oops and I forgot, lie on an attestation to the government that you returned all the requested docs.


So, you can break the law without consequences as long as you say "Oops; sorry! Here-you can have them all back now.
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A precedent was set when Hillary used bleach bit and destroyed evidence without any consequences. If you're part of the political elite you can break any law with impunity. If you're not part of the club you will be crucified.

It's sad so many people are championing un-justice because of an emotional, rather than intellectual response.



posted on Jun, 12 2023 @ 08:12 AM
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a reply to: nugget1

Wait, I thought the OP is that Trump didn't break the law? So he did, just along with the rest of them? And talk to the GOP about Hillary. I believe there were over 30 investigations into her along with over 11 hours of various testimony from her.

And hey I totally think they need to revamp the whole system around documents leaving premises.



posted on Jun, 12 2023 @ 08:24 AM
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a reply to: frogs453

The Presidential Records Act is the reason why Trump didn't break any laws. Plain and simple. Until the US Supreme Court rules on the President's authority under this ACT, there is no crime. Even if they rule against Trump, no crime was committed by him because everything happened before the USSC ruling.
Biden, Hilary and Pence have no such protection.



posted on Jun, 12 2023 @ 08:51 AM
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a reply to: frogs453

Since MAL was a SCIF its possible some of those documents never left the SCIF.



posted on Jun, 12 2023 @ 08:55 AM
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a reply to: LoneCloudHopper2

Even if he declassified the documents is he still allowed to keep them as souvenirs or mementos? Asking a serious question here.



posted on Jun, 12 2023 @ 08:56 AM
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a reply to: CoyoteAngels

The ballroom and bathroom are a SCIF? Bedminster which Trump had Nauta load the boxes on the plane to are a SCIF? Trump had aides with no clearance at Bedminster, showing them Iranian military plans, so again Bedminster is a SCIF and people with no security clearance including Trump himself can discuss the classified plans, as he himself stated they were?



posted on Jun, 12 2023 @ 09:05 AM
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a reply to: frogs453

Someone shows you pics of boxes that may or may not contain 31 TS documents, and you get excited?

Boxes stacked up are as mundane in America as dirty dishes in the sink.

Can you imagine facing obstruction charges for moving boxes around in your master bedroom suite?

I'm so LMFAO at people getting there hair on fire over stacks of boxes.

Can you image the poor Russian spy that has to sneak into MAL and sort thru all those boxes of crap to get to one of the 31 TS docs? It might take him awhile!

Why didn't the FBI raid Bedminster? Did they even search, like the multiple places Bidens were searched?
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