Professor Richard Dawkins-There are only two biological sexes and that's all there is to it

a reply to: linda72

So how many sexes exist? Two? Three? More?

I'm not claiming a number of sexes. I'm claiming a number of combinations of male and female genetic and physical expression exist between male and female. We don't call people hermaphrodites anymore, we call them intersexed.

originally posted by: linda72

originally posted by: namehere

originally posted by: linda72

originally posted by: namehere
i think the issue is people mixing social constructs, hormone imbalance, psychological conditions and biology, biologically there are 6 chromosome combinations but they are all expressions of male or female and generally are mutations with all kinds of health problems and fertility problems, even with hermaphrodites are expressions of male or female even with both parts. biologically there's only two genders even with the 6 chromosome combinations, everything else is speculative.

No hermaphrodites ever existed within the human species

it was an example mostly but they do exist in small numbers, 11 to be exact and all their children were born male. as for false hermaphroditees there's only a few hundred and i was mostly referring to genders being mutations due to extra chromosomes, not true genders like true hermaphrodites

A hermaphrodite should be able to get pregnant n at the same time impregnate others.

Have you ever seen any human with these properties?

and i told you 11 such people have been observed, so most likely there's probably hundreds of them that are unknown. it doesn't matter what I've personally seen, that's like asking if the sky is blue, to both of us it may look blue but i know its not actually blue even though i see blue, that color isn't real at all, its just how our brain processes our perception of light internally.

originally posted by: Sookiechacha
a reply to: linda72



What people, including scientists, are saying is that "sex" is on a spectrum, both biologically and in physical expression. There are endless shades of gray on the two ended spectrum that lies between pure black and pure white.

Some people, including scientists say a lot of moronic things.
Some people including scientists, said the vaccine was safe and effective. 🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡
There are only two sexes. There have always only been two sexes. There will always only be two sexes.
I would change names screen names after saying something so stupid.

a reply to: Notabot12345666

There are only two sexes.

And how are they determined?

What sex is a person born with testes and ovaries?

Can a woman have "Y" chromosomes?

originally posted by: namehere

originally posted by: linda72

originally posted by: namehere

originally posted by: linda72

originally posted by: namehere
i think the issue is people mixing social constructs, hormone imbalance, psychological conditions and biology, biologically there are 6 chromosome combinations but they are all expressions of male or female and generally are mutations with all kinds of health problems and fertility problems, even with hermaphrodites are expressions of male or female even with both parts. biologically there's only two genders even with the 6 chromosome combinations, everything else is speculative.

No hermaphrodites ever existed within the human species

it was an example mostly but they do exist in small numbers, 11 to be exact and all their children were born male. as for false hermaphroditees there's only a few hundred and i was mostly referring to genders being mutations due to extra chromosomes, not true genders like true hermaphrodites

A hermaphrodite should be able to get pregnant n at the same time impregnate others.

Have you ever seen any human with these properties?

and i told you 11 such people have been observed, so most likely there's probably hundreds of them that are unknown. it doesn't matter what I've personally seen, that's like asking if the sky is blue, to both of us it may look blue but i know its not actually blue even though i see blue, that color isn't real at all, its just how our brain processes our perception of light internally.

11 people have been observed to have been able to become pregnant and impregnate others?? If this was true then it would have been a great discovery-but it isn't

originally posted by: Sookiechacha
a reply to: linda72

So how many sexes exist? Two? Three? More?

I'm not claiming a number of sexes. I'm claiming a number of combinations of male and female genetic and physical expression exist between male and female. We don't call people hermaphrodites anymore, we call them intersexed.

Intersex is not a third sex or a spectrum but a medical condition-intersex disorder

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov...

Intersex disorders result from abnormalities of the sex chromosomes, gonads, internal and external genitalia, sex hormones and gender role. This article reviews the literature on intersex disorders, outlining the characteristics and mode of inheritance, if known, of each. For appropriate and effective management and counselling of patients and their families, physicians must have a good knowledge of the development of the genital tract and of the interaction between genetic sex and environmental influences.

so a genetic disorder in a few words

originally posted by: Notabot12345666

originally posted by: Sookiechacha
a reply to: linda72



What people, including scientists, are saying is that "sex" is on a spectrum, both biologically and in physical expression. There are endless shades of gray on the two ended spectrum that lies between pure black and pure white.

Some people, including scientists say a lot of moronic things.
Some people including scientists, said the vaccine was safe and effective. 🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡
There are only two sexes. There have always only been two sexes. There will always only be two sexes.
I would change names screen names after saying something so stupid.

Very true-it seems sometimes personal opinion is given as fact

a reply to: Terpene

That's all women are, well, at least from a simplistic biological POV.

There in lies the problem.
Women are so much more.
If you think about it, your POV is actually the shallow one.
The very way men and women see the world is different. Our eyes and the way we process what we see is different.
Most of our senses differ in numerous ways. The way we smell, touch, taste, the very way we feel is different.
Women are more "advanced' in these areas.
We are different and, if you're a woman, you are selling yourself short for not seeing it.

A man can think he is a woman. A man can not think like a woman, and vice versa.
We process the natural world differently.

a reply to: linda72

Intersex is not a third sex or a spectrum but a medical condition-intersex disorder

Do you think homosexuality is also a disorder?

Sex and intersex most certainly IS on a spectrum, the same spectrum, not different spectrums. You can call any sexual expression that falls in between your perfect idea of male and female a disorder, if it makes you feel better, but it doesn't nullify their existence.

so a genetic disorder in a few words

So, in a word, "freaks".

originally posted by: strongfp
a reply to: Lucius Driftwood

Apparently the Y chromosome is shrinking and in about 5 million years it might not even exist, if human species live that long...

With the current situation as it is I think as a race, we deserve to die out.
Kids used to play Doctors and Nurses not drag acts and nobends.
Bearded ladies were reserved for the Circus and if you glanced at a pretty woman you were safe in the knowledge the requisite plumbing was attached. These days we need to look for 5 o'clock shadow or an Adam's apple. Hmm, wonder how that got its name? Certainly not from Adam slipping into Eves dress and parading around the forest. (Bring on the comments, I'm game for a laugh.)

originally posted by: Sookiechacha
a reply to: linda72

Intersex is not a third sex or a spectrum but a medical condition-intersex disorder

Do you think homosexuality is also a disorder?

Sex and intersex most certainly IS on a spectrum, the same spectrum, not different spectrums. You can call any sexual expression that falls in between your perfect idea of male and female a disorder, if it makes you feel better, but it doesn't nullify their existence.

It may be a disorder of some sort, has it ever been proven other wise?

a reply to: Quadrivium

It may be a disorder of some sort, has it ever been proven other wise?

What is the difference between a "disorder" and a place on a natural "spectrum of sexual expression", both genetically and physically, other than a reason to dismiss such people as unnatural freaks.

originally posted by: Sookiechacha
a reply to: linda72

Intersex is not a third sex or a spectrum but a medical condition-intersex disorder

Do you think homosexuality is also a disorder?

Sex and intersex most certainly IS on a spectrum, the same spectrum, not different spectrums. You can call any sexual expression that falls in between your perfect idea of male and female a disorder, if it makes you feel better, but it doesn't nullify their existence.

According to what is known intersex is a genetic disorder/medical condition

Homosexuality is not considered a genetic disorder/medical condition.

The rest of what you said is just wrong-intersex is not on a spectrum but a medical condition that the trans movement confuses a lot-it has nothing to do with being trans

originally posted by: Sookiechacha
a reply to: Quadrivium

It may be a disorder of some sort, has it ever been proven other wise?

What is the difference between a disorder and a place on a natural spectrum of sexual expression, both genetically and physically, other than a reason to dismiss such people as unnatural freaks.

Is that how you think of them?

originally posted by: Terpene
let's make babies that's all we're here for, all I ever identify with is my sexual reproduction, I have no personality no nothing just a walking baby factory.

That's all women are, well, at least from a simplistic biological POV. I guess most people identify well beyond those biological concepts necessary for sexual reproduction. But I guess those so adamant to define humans solely on their chromosomes must be very shallow individuals.

No, just normal individuals.

You do you though, Terp.

a reply to: linda72

Homosexuality is not considered a genetic disorder/medical condition.

It used to be.

In 1973, the American Psychiatric Association removed homosexuality as a mental disorder, but replaced it with "sexual orientation disturbance."
Not until 1987 did homosexuality completely fall out of the DSM.

www.psychologytoday.com...

The rest of what you said is just wrong-intersex is not on a spectrum but a medical condition that the trans movement confuses a lot-it has nothing to do with being trans

You want this to about the trans community. But the way chromosomes, hormones, brain chemicals and genitals, etc., are expressed in human development affects everyone, straight, gay, bi, non-sexual and anywhere in between, including trans expression. It's a closed system that encompasses nearly infinite combinations.

originally posted by: linda72

originally posted by: LSU2018

originally posted by: chiefsmom
There ARE only 2 Biological sexes!
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I really don't care, which "gender" you decide to be. I don't need to know, honestly. Are you now happy? Are you a good person? That is all that matters in the end.

But all this BS to try to change Biological facts, to fit a narrative, needs to stop. What also needs to stop, is social media. At this point, I wish the internet would crash.

Just fed up with people wanting their 15 minutes of fame, regardless of the issue, even if it is being a victim.

That would be the best thing that could happen to this country.

Social media-great point!

Yep, I'd rather go back to paying $10 a month to have the Shreveport Times delivered to me daily so I can read about what's going on.

a reply to: Quadrivium

Is that how you think of them?

Obviously not, as I keep saying that they aren't "one-off freaks, but part of a spectrum of human sexuality expressed genetically and physically anywhere from your Macho Manly Man MAN to your Super girly-girl WOMAN, submissive and barefoot, a model baby making brood mare, smiling, and an eternally lactating female, and everything in between.

originally posted by: linda72

originally posted by: quintessentone

originally posted by: linda72

originally posted by: quintessentone
a reply to: linda72

The American Humanist Association has withdrawn its humanist of the year award from Richard Dawkins, 25 years after he received the honour, criticising the academic and author for “demean[ing] marginalised groups” using “the guise of scientific discourse”.

In 2015, Dawkins also wrote: “Is trans woman a woman? Purely semantic. If you define by chromosomes, no. If by self-identification, yes. I call her “she” out of courtesy.”

In a statement from its board, the AHA said that Dawkins had “over the past several years accumulated a history of making statements that use the guise of scientific discourse to demean marginalised groups, an approach antithetical to humanist values”.

www.theguardian.com...

None of the scientists/doctors you use as sources to disparage trans people's plight involve them accepting any other medical/scientific discipline's findings, such as neuroscience, endrocrinology, intersex spectrum...nadda. Biology study in and by itself does not show the whole true picture.

Good try but unless you have any evidence more than two sexes exist then the rest is just irrelevant

The same applies to you, where is the evidence?

So you say there are more than two sexes?

Name them

Oh, it's more than that. For there to be more than two biological sexes, they need to be somehow relevant and necessary to the survival of the human race. In other words, if they ceased to exist at all, the species would not be able to survive.

originally posted by: Sookiechacha
a reply to: Quadrivium

It may be a disorder of some sort, has it ever been proven other wise?

What is the difference between a "disorder" and a place on a natural "spectrum of sexual expression", both genetically and physically, other than a reason to dismiss such people as unnatural freaks.

You're the only one calling them unnatural freaks.