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originally posted by: CoyoteAngels
a reply to: ketsuko
I thought I might be losing my marbles.... probably am, but one thing:
The KTLA video coverage of the incident seems to have been updated from a previous version, between the time I posted and now.
It looks like they produced a different video for their late night news broadcast. The previous one actually used the word "ACTIVISTS". The source page has an update tag from around that time.
So who knows.
originally posted by: quintessentone
a reply to: tanstaafl
I actually do know and that is why I make sure they are peer-reviewed and published. That's about as high up in the meaningful and scientifically proven state a study can go.
originally posted by: tanstaafl
originally posted by: quintessentone
a reply to: tanstaafl
I actually do know and that is why I make sure they are peer-reviewed and published. That's about as high up in the meaningful and scientifically proven state a study can go.
Rotflmao!!!
Like I said... you obviously don't understand anything when it comes to how studies can be constructed to 'show' whatever the one paying for it wants it to show.
Peer review? I guess you are blissfully unaware of the myriad of problems with regard to peer review.
The same can be said of the silly notion that just because something is published, it is true. Newsflash: it isn't.
So, again, please stop spreading FUD.
Just a few of the questions that must be answered definitely would be...
Is the study a true RCT? If not, it can never, ever prove causation, and at best, can only ever show an association, which more often than not end up being purely incidental.
Is there full disclosure when it comes to who funded the study?
Is it free from preconceived biases? Meaning, do the authors have any conflicts of interest, and/or do they publish them?
Is all of the underlying data available for anyone to review?
originally posted by: quintessentone
The LGBTQ assembly was held in front of that school because someone burned a pride day flag. The police are still investigating this as a hate crime.
www.nbclosangeles.com...
originally posted by: ketsuko
a reply to: MrInquisitive
Not necessarily. Those is rather vague in that context. It could also refer back to a group mentioned previously, not quoted in the text. They could be parents as well, non-parent activists, or a mix.
originally posted by: ketsuko
originally posted by: quintessentone
The LGBTQ assembly was held in front of that school because someone burned a pride day flag. The police are still investigating this as a hate crime.
www.nbclosangeles.com...
Why? Burning the American flag isn't and I would bet people who do it feel the same. Doing one is free speech; doing the other is hate. Why? Are Americans not special enough?
originally posted by: CoyoteAngels
a reply to: MrInquisitive
I LIVE less than an hour from North Hollywood! Dont lecture me about demographics. It is decidedly DEMOCRAT
I'm sure there are some gay parent families in the district. But the majority of people looked to me to be the traditional parents wearing the tees in the video.
The activists are the gay parents and non parents. The majority seem to be parents against the assembly.
The point made by one speaker in the video is that elementary schools are no place for battles in the social wars to be fought.
Do you agree?
originally posted by: quintessentone
a reply to: tanstaafl
Yes, but you are the one who does not understand where and how bias in methodology with studies is determined.
originally posted by: tanstaafl
originally posted by: quintessentone
a reply to: tanstaafl
Yes, but you are the one who does not understand where and how bias in methodology with studies is determined.
Rotflmao yet again.
I have pointed out multiple factors, as well as provided links to evidence proving just how woefully inadequate your precious 'peer-review' system is, as well as how impotent your precious 'prestigious journals' are.
But by all means, please do elaborate on how I am the one who doesn't understand.
Of course, we all know you won't, because we all know you are incapable of rational intelligent discussion.
originally posted by: CoyoteAngels
a reply to: MrInquisitive
It's called 'gayborhood' by gays, FFS!
There are conservative pockets in southern CA... Hollywood, North or West isn't one. There are poor working class gays too you know. In fact, they are pretty upset about gentrification in many of their traditional neighborhoods.
The KTLA video or report was updated after my first post. I believe the word 'activists' was originally used to describe the counter protest from the planned protesting parents. Who were protesting an assembly in which the book was to be read. Assembly means a gather of the entire school to highlight a theme. The theme was PRIDE MONTH held on PRIDE DAY and many parents objected to the social wars being fought in their elementary school... as one parent said. And I agree.
By the way... all children have a mother and a father. If those words are still allowed. There are some children that have a biological mom and dad who divorce and one goes into a same sex relationship. How is THAT child supposed to feel? One of their parents isn't valid anymore?
I know of more than one family this has happened too. One: 2 moms and the dad is shutout. The other: 2 dads, and the mom had a nervous breakdown when her husband abandoned her for another man, leaving her with 4 kids. What do we do to celebrate these families?
edit: I saw your answer, and do not agree that elementary school should be the place to fight social battles.
Lifestyle 'rights' are NOT the same as race.
originally posted by: quintessentone
a reply to: tanstaafl
Why would you ask a person incapable of rational intelligent discussion to elaborate?