DeSantis says we must wage a war on the woke ideology

a reply to: Sookiechacha

Yes, yes ... freedom to choose for thee, but not for me because I make choices you don't like.

originally posted by: Sookiechacha
a reply to: linda72

But at the same time the woke culture believes dangerous drugs n surgeries are appropriate for children.

These kinds of decisions should be made by the parents and their family's doctors, not elected politicians.

Alright!

So you accept these drugs n surgeries are dangerous but it's the parents and doctors who decide if their kids will have them. I think you are missing the fact the state has legal duty/obligation to protect children and vulnerable adults from harm and exploitation.

originally posted by: Zanti Misfit

originally posted by: linda72
a reply to: Raggedyman

I think under the circumstances he is the best possible candidate especially for his stance against the woke ideology and his stance against medical procedures done to children or the dangerous drugs given to them.

Yeah , Bill Gates Thinks so to .

Hail Hydra !

Why share fake crap from Trump supporters? I find it funny a Trump supporter would have an issue with Bill Gates the guy who was likely offered a spot on Trump science team.

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a reply to: Sookiechacha

So does that mean you are against the banning of conversion therapy?

a reply to: linda72

So you accept these drugs n surgeries are dangerous but it's the parents and doctors who decide if their kids will have them.

Those are your words, not mine. You chose the subject, banning medical intervention for "trans" kids, as the topic for an example of DeSantis' fascism, not me. There are plenty of fascist facets to DeSantis and his fascism besides his attacks on the families of and the doctors who treat gender confused and "trans" kids.

I think you are missing the fact the state has legal duty/obligation to protect children and vulnerable adults from harm and exploitation.

Maybe the state should come in and make sure teenage girls aren't on hormonal birth control too, you know, to protect them from exploitation and harm. Then the state can make sure that those girls' parents don't interfere and harm their daughters by seeking out abortion services.

a reply to: Sookiechacha
Hmmmm
Interestingly I believe the government has no place between a Dr and patient.

a reply to: Sookiechacha

How is RDS a fascist when its the FL legislature that makes laws like everywhere else. Seems to me the voters in FL are asking RDS to sign these bills and are quite happy with him. How is that fascist?

a reply to: linda72

If DeSantis leads with removing 'woke' ideology he will lose because most people's #1 on their list is not that.

a reply to: CoyoteAngels

Germany and Italy were quite happy with Adolf Hitler and Benito Mussolini too.

a reply to: Sookiechacha

You will let me know when Florida invades a neighboring state or three, and when they start rounding up and executing jews. Wait... that's not going to work out well.

But I like how you included Mussolini, now that 'Hitler' has been done to death.

a reply to: CoyoteAngels

But I like how you included Mussolini,

Sigh...

Checking 14 characteristics of fascism against the Florida governor’s actions after his recent visit to Utah.

But what is fascism, exactly? And is Ron DeSantis a practitioner?

To answer that question, I turned to Umberto Eco, the great Italian philosopher and novelist (The Name of the Rose). Born in 1932, Eco experienced Mussolini’s fascism first-hand. In his later years, he wrote about this and listed 14 characteristics of fascism. In what follows, I indicate ways they do or don’t apply to DeSantis.

Umberto Eco Makes a List of the 14 Common Features of Fascism

1 The cult of tradition. “One has only to look at the syllabus of every fascist movement to find the major traditionalist thinkers. The Nazi gnosis was nourished by traditionalist, syncretistic, occult elements.”
2 The rejection of modernism. “The Enlightenment, the Age of Reason, is seen as the beginning of modern depravity. In this sense Ur-Fascism can be defined as irrationalism.”
3 The cult of action for action’s sake. “Action being beautiful in itself, it must be taken before, or without, any previous reflection. Thinking is a form of emasculation.”
4 Disagreement is treason. “The critical spirit makes distinctions, and to distinguish is a sign of modernism. In modern culture the scientific community praises disagreement as a way to improve knowledge.”
5 Fear of difference. “The first appeal of a fascist or prematurely fascist movement is an appeal against the intruders. Thus Ur-Fascism is racist by definition.”
6 Appeal to social frustration. “One of the most typical features of the historical fascism was the appeal to a frustrated middle class, a class suffering from an economic crisis or feelings of political humiliation, and frightened by the pressure of lower social groups.”
7 The obsession with a plot. “Thus at the root of the Ur-Fascist psychology there is the obsession with a plot, possibly an international one. The followers must feel besieged.”
8 The enemy is both strong and weak. “By a continuous shifting of rhetorical focus, the enemies are at the same time too strong and too weak.”
9 Pacifism is trafficking with the enemy. “For Ur-Fascism there is no struggle for life but, rather, life is lived for struggle.”
10 Contempt for the weak. “Elitism is a typical aspect of any reactionary ideology.”
11 Everybody is educated to become a hero. “In Ur-Fascist ideology, heroism is the norm. This cult of heroism is strictly linked with the cult of death.”
12 Machismo and weaponry. “Machismo implies both disdain for women and intolerance and condemnation of nonstandard sexual habits, from chastity to homosexuality.”
13 Selective populism. “There is in our future a TV or Internet populism, in which the emotional response of a selected group of citizens can be presented and accepted as the Voice of the People.”
14 Ur-Fascism speaks Newspeak. “All the Nazi or Fascist schoolbooks made use of an impoverished vocabulary, and an elementary syntax, in order to limit the instruments for complex and critical reasoning.”

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now that 'Hitler' has been done to death.

Nevertheless, Hitler had lawmakers behind him too, and the German people happily followed Hitler's lead.

a reply to: Sookiechacha

So the people in FL that feel their civil rights have been violated by the FL legislature and governor will promptly file a lawsuit, one would assume.

Otherwise, I calll it 'Democracy in Action'.

a reply to: CoyoteAngels

Here you go.

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a reply to: CoyoteAngels

I don't think the people of Florida knowingly voted to violate the constitutional rights for so many Floridians. But, you know, fascists gotta fascist.

originally posted by: Sookiechacha
a reply to: CoyoteAngels

I don't think the people of Florida knowingly voted to violate the constitutional rights for so many Floridians. But, you know, fascists gotta fascist.

How were anyone's constitutional rights violated? The courts are there to provide that balance, so that the FL legislature doesnt make laws that violate a persons constitutional rights, so I expect court cases to be filed and be successful! Like I said, democracy in action!

a reply to: frogs453

Awesome! More democracy in action!

a reply to: CoyoteAngels

Here's 2 more examples of DeSantis trampling all over the US Constitution.

DeSantis violated First Amendment by removing elected official, judge rules

Disney sues Ron DeSantis on First Amendment grounds

a reply to: Sookiechacha

More evidence of a democracy in process! Be of good cheer!

a reply to: CoyoteAngels

More evidence of a democracy in process!

Nope. Trampling the Peoples' constitutional rights are examples of fascism.

a reply to: Sookiechacha

Whose rights have been found trampelled? Filing a lawsuit saying such doesn't make it so.

The one fellow RDS fired was not reinstated, however. I know the argument was that he refused to prosecute violations of state law.

Nope, democratic processes are all being followed as far as I can see.

If the governor does such a thing as trample on his constituents constitutional rights, couldn't he be impeached?