Aliens & Espionage: Crop Circles and the CIA Coverup | The Why Files

originally posted by: spartan002
hoaxer: hey team we have 3 hrs before farmer john wakes up and goes for his morning walk, let's finish this very complicated design pattern on his fields. we also can't make any mistakes and have to finish this asap.

Unless farmer John was the one that paid them to create the circle.
In several cases the farmers ask for money to allow people to visit the circles.

a reply to: Plunkenstein

The L in BLT Dr Leavengood passed away in 2013 and I think things went quiet at that point. Whether he had a Doctorate or any actual scientific credentials seems to be debateable.

Nancy Talbott researched and believed some wacky cases and was taken in by quite a few hoaxes, doesn't necessarily discredit all of BLT's work but I am yet to see anything which has been peer reviewed and accepted as genuinely anomalous scientific proof.

a reply to: Arnie123

I have a WF t-shirt, it says 'Hecklefish is my spirit animal' with his pic.

I would watch it just for the fish!

AJ is cool too.

a reply to: Oldcarpy2

Do you know any crop artists? Can they tell you how they do that thing with the stalks that makes it look like they are blown out, not bent?

a reply to: CoyoteAngels

The problem is that we need a comparison between normal stalks, stalks bent by the method used by the circle makers and in the same conditions and stalks "blown out" by whatever means they think gives that result.

Only with confirmed results from tests like this can we be sure that there are differences between all those situations.

Just saying the stalks they look "blown out" means very little.

a reply to: ArMaP

I have no evidence or direct knowledge but have heard others say they conducted these comparisons and it's one of the criteria they use when examining a new circle to determine how it was made.

The stalk differences have been discussed for a while now. I heard about it at least 15 years ago. Apparently there are people trying to research this phenomenon objectively.

a reply to: CoyoteAngels

It's not really a big thing.

We get wheat growing in our garden from the field at the back. I bent some stalks over and that's just how they looked.

You might find this site interesting.

www.circlemakers.org...

a reply to: Oldcarpy2

I have seen this site. Thanks!

A quick skim shows they create circles for hire, for bands, company promotions and events. So they don't need to be done in the dark, by a few people in a single evening.

Another interesting comparison is the way the stalks look woven rather than mashed in a single direction or helter skelter.

originally posted by: spartan002
crop circles are too perfect, doing them in a hoax/fake manner would be very costly and time consuming.

hoaxer: hey team we have 3 hrs before farmer john wakes up and goes for his morning walk, let's finish this very complicated design pattern on his fields. we also can't make any mistakes and have to finish this asap.

Here, so, no:

www.circlemakers.org...

a reply to: CoyoteAngels

I can assure you that there are plenty done during the night. They have gotten more complex due to using laptops to design them and GPS etc.

We had one appear overnight in a barley field just over the road. Farmer wasn't that bothered.

I don't know any of them well, more like know of them.

Cider is involved!

a reply to: Oldcarpy2

I'd really love to see one. Just to have the experience and have a slug of the cider.

a reply to: Oldcarpy2

Cider is involved!

Not scrumpy, or is that just further west down CCG country?

a reply to: Freeborn

We have scrumpy but it's more proper cider round here.

Actually, Im sat here in my Wurzels t shirt

Saw them nearby a while back. They were surprisingly good.

The cider bar ran out before they came on.

Had combine harvesters either side of the stage with lights on.

Was quite surreal.

a reply to: Oldcarpy2

I have a very good mate who would love to see The Wurzels.
His taste in music is truly awful, I have to physically stop him from going to the jukebox in the pub but he always sneaks on when I go for a smoke or to the toilet!

I imagine they'd be good live in a 'good-for-a-laugh' sort of way.

Real Scrumpy is lethal and disgusting.

a reply to: Freeborn

They are still going, but not with the one that sadly died.

Not my usual taste in bands but they are actually very good.

Real scrumpy takes the enamel off your teeth.

God knows what it does to your internal organs.

Not as bad as Potcheen mind. You can go blind, apparently, with that stuff.

Didn't you have some absinthe?

Still got it?

a reply to: CoyoteAngels

Well, if you ever find yourself in darkest Wiltshire in circle season?

a reply to: Oldcarpy2

I used to play golf with a wily old Irishman, he was playing off 3 at 75 years old.
Whenever I played with him he'd always have a hip flask of poitchin - not sure of the spelling - potent stuff.

I still have a little bit of absinthe left.
The strongest I ever had was in Krakow. I needed a livener the afternoon after the day before. So I asked a bar man in a locals bar for some absinthe. He asked me what type. Me being me I looked at him as if he was stupid and said 'Well the strongest'. He poured a glass and then put some demerara sugar into a spoon and proceeded to heat it - seemed a bit like cooking up brown - and when it caramelised he stirred it into the absinthe.
Again, me being me, I asked for another. The barman just looked at me and shook his head.

Within ten minutes I was absolutely #ing buckled and the next hour or so was just a blur but I do recall all sorts of weird things going on in my head.

No wonder Van Gogh chopped his own ear off drinking that stuff!

a reply to: Oldcarpy2

I may show up one day! It's on my bucket list. I'll inquire about a good BnB when the time comes, thanks!

originally posted by: CoyoteAngels
The stalk differences have been discussed for a while now. I heard about it at least 15 years ago. Apparently there are people trying to research this phenomenon objectively.

I know they have been talking about it for many years, but I haven't seen any credible research.

a reply to: ArMaP

Last info on crop circle stalk deformation I remember reading….long ago

PLANT ABNORMALITIES

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