Who will you vote in the next presidential elections?

Voted for Trump twice. Will vote for him again if he makes it past the primaries. I actually would prefer DeSantis over Trump though. I liked most of Trumps policies and prior to covid the country was doing awesome under Trump. That being said I just don't like how petty Trump gets!

Considering how bad things are under Biden I cant understand why anyone would vote for him again or any other democrat for that matter.

a reply to: sirlancelot

I think the best candidate is DeSantis by far and will make a great president as I said at an earlier post.

we need a guy who will basically shut up and focus on defensive military and strengthening infrastructure in the USA. come out and report on those issues every once in a while. also, ramp jump the oil production exponentionally

a reply to: sirlancelot

good example: the interview with cnn. he schooled her but did he have to say she was a nasty person? Maybe she said something similar and I missed it but other than that.. gold

a reply to: Salamandy

DeSantis!

A great patriot and with great values and principles!

originally posted by: linda72
a reply to: Salamandy

DeSantis!

A great patriot and with great values and principles!

He's got the Bush's, Cheney's, and George Soros in his corner - what's not to like?


HARD PASS

a reply to: underpass61

Every candidate has some very famous and powerful people on their side.

originally posted by: underpass61

He's got the Bush's, Cheney's, and George Soros in his corner - what's not to like?


HARD PASS

Actually Soros ONLY donates to dems, im not sure how this is getting passed off as truth but your not the first person I have had to correct on this matter
Biggest Political Donors
Lets not pass over the fact that he is bankrolled by one of the biggest crooks on wall street Ken Griffin, who lied to congress under oath.

Desntis' attitude of complete rejection towards forced masking and coerced vaccination thru job loss, etc. is much much needed for the next pres. All of that obvious unnecessary gov control stuff from the old pandemic days he is good on. Maybe trump and him both swallow their pride and run together?

originally posted by: datguy

originally posted by: underpass61

He's got the Bush's, Cheney's, and George Soros in his corner - what's not to like?


HARD PASS

Actually Soros ONLY donates to dems, im not sure how this is getting passed off as truth

I listened to his words - derp

I didn't say he donated anything to DeSantis but he clearly prefers to have the dems face him over Trump.
That's all I need to know.

For those thinking about Ron Desantis...

In 2020, Rupert Murdoch, the owner of FOX News, hosted Governor Ron DeSantis at his California Ranch in Bel Air.

REVEALED: Rupert Murdoch Hosted Ron DeSantis at His California Ranch and Told Him FOX News Will Support Him

FOX News owner Rupert Murdoch hosted Governor Ron DeSantis at his California Ranch in Bel Air in 2020. He told him FOX News would support his potential run for president in 2024.

Since then Murdoch and FOX Corp fired its top host Tucker Carlson who was a favorite of the Trump-MAGA crowd.

FOX News has since implemented a soft ban on President Trump.

originally posted by: underpass61


I didn't say he donated anything to DeSantis but he clearly prefers to have the dems face him over Trump.
That's all I need to know.

Is this fact or opinion?
Opinions I can respect but facts indicate evidence

a reply to: datguy

Did you not watch the video? He clearly states his preference.

originally posted by: imitator
For those thinking about Ron Desantis...

In 2020, Rupert Murdoch, the owner of FOX News, hosted Governor Ron DeSantis at his California Ranch in Bel Air.

REVEALED: Rupert Murdoch Hosted Ron DeSantis at His California Ranch and Told Him FOX News Will Support Him

FOX News owner Rupert Murdoch hosted Governor Ron DeSantis at his California Ranch in Bel Air in 2020. He told him FOX News would support his potential run for president in 2024.

Since then Murdoch and FOX Corp fired its top host Tucker Carlson who was a favorite of the Trump-MAGA crowd.

FOX News has since implemented a soft ban on President Trump.

I wondered if the relationship between Trump and Fox was going sour. I've seen several negative reports on Trump that were from Fox.

originally posted by: Byrd

If I want entertainment, I play Minecraft. Meanwhile, I do want clean water, healthcare for everyone, etc. instead of tax breaks and political favors to Big Business and billionaires. And I want the taxes to increase on the ultra rich. They can afford it.

It is so easy to want others to pay, isn't it? Tax the ultra-rich 90%+ and that will generate only 15% more taxes, so it is not a tax problem it is a spending problem... BTW how much do you think it should cost to be an American anyways...lol Where socialized countries actually get the most out of taxes is taxing the crap out of everyone else and not only the rich. The real power to generate more tax revenue is to tax the many and not only the few rich. In Germany, if you make 100k you are now basically rich and are taxed 43% and there is a 19% vat tax on top of everything too. Even at 60k you get a nice 32% tax...that is how to generate a mass of money.

Along with your points above let's add another dozen liberal talking points that all are nothing more than election battle crys that drift off into thin air until the next round of elections. Obama/Biden has 12 years now and nothing. Even Obamacare is total crap and was already known to fail within 10 years. Biden is horrendously failing at all points and you want more???? BTW Trump did more for Blacks than anyone in the last 50 years... one example of many of where he was successful over many decades of others. Do you really think Russia would be in Ukraine if Trump had won? Do you really think inflation would be where it is at if Trump was in office, how is that border doing... All the great things Trump put into place Biden /liberals stripped them because of OMB, so if this is the great life you wanted then just keep voting the same maybe they will send you a case of clean water... Don't hold your breath.

a reply to: underpass61

I will only add that I want to see the entire video in its original context, before I decide to recant my remarks or not.

This is THE issue that has been pointed out time and again for decades, The media lies, distorts information and sometimes just makes # up in order to pass the buck, to think this source is any different is an exercise in insanity, by definition.

this video is only evidence of that and nothing more

follow the money

Edit to Add: i found more info on the video in question and will not be recanting my comments
**to note, this is another media source
AP

After predicting that DeSantis will win the nomination in the clip that was shared widely on social media, the full video shows Soros saying: “This could induce Trump, whose narcissism has turned into a disease, to run as a third-party candidate. That would lead to a Democratic landslide and force the Republican Party to reform itself. But perhaps I may be just a little bit biased.”

Laura Silber, a spokesperson for the Open Society Foundations, a grantmaking network of which Soros is founder and chair, told The Associated Press that claims alleging Soros endorsed DeSantis are not true.

There is a longer video here, sorry i always have trouble with the you tube links, but you can clearly see the original short clip is taken out of context.
I will also point out that I am not sure he wrote the speech as he seems to have trouble reading it
You tube

originally posted by: Xtrozero

It is so easy to want others to pay, isn't it? Tax the ultra-rich 90%+ and that will generate only 15% more taxes, so it is not a tax problem it is a spending problem...

I don't think that's a good argument for "pay your fair share of taxes." Even Warren Buffett says that his own secretary has to pay more in taxes than he does. I'd go for a flat tax, baby... failing that, loophole closing and bumping up the tax rate to where it was when I was a kid.

The real power to generate more tax revenue is to tax the many and not only the few rich. In Germany, if you make 100k you are now basically rich and are taxed 43% and there is a 19% vat tax on top of everything too. Even at 60k you get a nice 32% tax...that is how to generate a mass of money.

And because of that, many other things are much cheaper than here in the US. We were surprised when we visited Germany how affordable it was compared to Dallas.

Obama/Biden has 12 years now and nothing.

I think they did reasonably well given that Mitch McConnell did everything he could to stop them, including blocking appointing judges to the Supreme Court.

Even Obamacare is total crap and was already known to fail within 10 years.

Seems to be doing just fine. Thanks to Obamacare, my daughter's finally able to afford medical insurance on her salary. I'd prefer universal free healthcare like the rest of the first world countries have.

BTW Trump did more for Blacks than anyone in the last 50 years...

That would be Trump's claim... but the stats don't hold up (BTW, that's a Vox (very conservative) article on advances for Blacks under Trump.) We could compare it Here's what Obama did

one example of many of where he was successful over many decades of others. Do you really think Russia would be in Ukraine if Trump had won?

Yep.

Remember how many people here think that Russia has some merit in starting that war (and how many think it's fake and manipulated and all that.) Boris Johnson, in fact, tried to persuade Trump to support Ukraine - unsuccessfully.

Do you really think inflation would be where it is at if Trump was in office,

There's darn little a president can do about inflation. He can nominate to the board of the Federal Reserve but he doesn't have the power to adjust rates to change the rate of inflation. That's up to someone else. And given Trump's poor ability to choose good (not-corrupt) people for offices, I have little confidence in his ability to affect anything. So, yes, at the same or (if he chose more inept or corrupt people) worse.

how is that border doing...

In spite of Greg Abbot hyperventilating, the answer is "just fine." We were down in South Texas last month - not much changed from when we were there 20 years ago. Crime isn't up, gangs haven't taken over the streets, etc. Nobody freaks out about people speaking Spanish with their abuelas.

San Antonio is a lovely place to visit. You should come visit sometime, get a taste of the culture and the great food.

originally posted by: Byrd

I don't think that's a good argument for "pay your fair share of taxes." Even Warren Buffett says that his own secretary has to pay more in taxes than he does. I'd go for a flat tax, baby... failing that, loophole closing and bumping up the tax rate to where it was when I was a kid.

Then change tax laws...That is what Trump said... he said you need to change tax laws..how is that going with the liberals? A flat tax would be great, everyone pays 10% no matter what and we are all good. Bumping up the tax rates doesn't change what I said in the taxes gained is nowhere near what most liberals think it would be, but the rich make a good bogeyman. You need to raise taxes on the masses. There are more rich liberals than conservatives and it seems they are very tight with their money while also suggesting everyone else needs to pay more.

Right now the top 1% still pay more in taxes than the bottom 90% so where do you think increased taxes would go?

And because of that, many other things are much cheaper than here in the US. We were surprised when we visited Germany by how affordable it was compared to Dallas.

But the hard-working german feels they are being sucked dry by a big tax vampire.

Seems to be doing just fine. Thanks to Obamacare, my daughter's finally able to afford medical insurance on her salary. I'd prefer universal free healthcare like the rest of the first world countries have.

Their system is not doing that well as it continually eats up more and more of the tax brought in. Obamacare is really not that affordable for most, so it only helps a very small proportion of the workforce while costing everyone a lot more. What we really need for clinics outside of the insurance umbrella cash based only, but that is another discussion.

That would be Trump's claim... but the stats don't hold up (BTW, that's a Vox (very conservative) article on advances for Blacks under Trump.) We could compare it Here's what Obama did

It's nice you picked an anti-Trump site and a pro-Obama site, but just looking at the base level of reversing Biden's disastrous crime bill from the 90s, creating an endless money stream for Black education, and opening up more opportunities for Black businesses in just those three things he has done more than the last 50 years for Blacks.

Boris Johnson, in fact, tried to persuade Trump to support Ukraine[/url] - unsuccessfully.

The bottom line is there would not have been a war with Trump. Biden is so weak Putin saw his open window of opportunity.

There's darn little a president can do about inflation. He can nominate to the board of the Federal Reserve but he doesn't have the power to adjust rates to change the rate of inflation. That's up to someone else. And given Trump's poor ability to choose good (not-corrupt) people for offices, I have little confidence in his ability to affect anything. So, yes, at the same or (if he chose more inept or corrupt people) worse.

He can stop drilling in America, and cut back on the abilities of companies to explore for new oil. He can force a vaccine mandate, there is a lot a president can drive. Speaking of corruption, what do you do with Biden's corruption? I personally think his failure to do anything for 40+ years is a worst crime though.

In spite of Greg Abbot hyperventilating, the answer is "just fine." We were down in South Texas last month - not much changed from when we were there 20 years ago. Crime isn't up, gangs haven't taken over the streets, etc. Nobody freaks out about people speaking Spanish with their abuelas.

You sound like my friend who lives in Portland and tells me there is nothing bad happening there...lol

San Antonio is a lovely place to visit. You should come visit sometime, get a taste of the culture and the great food.

I lived there for 5 years and may retire in northern San Antonio....

originally posted by: Xtrozero


Then change tax laws...That is what Trump said... he said you need to change tax laws..how is that going with the liberals?

Have you forgotten who fought tooth and nail against changes in the tax laws? That'd be McConnell.

A flat tax would be great, everyone pays 10% no matter what and we are all good. Bumping up the tax rates doesn't change what I said in the taxes gained is nowhere near what most liberals think it would be, but the rich make a good bogeyman.

Twenty six billion(with a b) isn't chicken feed in my book. Perhaps it is in yours.

You need to raise taxes on the masses.

Nope. They need a break, as we Democrats have said. We also raised taxes on corporations which might be particularly evil.

There are more rich liberals than conservatives and it seems they are very tight with their money while also suggesting everyone else needs to pay more.

So you want to tax the filthy rich liberals? Guess what... so do we.

Right now the top 1% still pay more in taxes than the bottom 90% so where do you think increased taxes would go?

They're SUPPOSED to pay more. Remember all the tax breaks they've been given under Trump? In case you forgot, here's a salient quote from an article in the conservative Investopedia that talks about Trump and taxes

or the wealthy, banks, and other corporations, the tax reform package was considered a lopsided victory given its significant and permanent tax cuts to corporate profits, investment income, estate tax, and more. Financial services companies stood to see huge gains based on the new, lower corporate rate (21%), as well as the more preferable tax treatment of pass-through companies.

Some banks said their effective tax rate would drop under 21%.

source

But the hard-working german feels they are being sucked dry by a big tax vampire.

Some do, some don't.

What we really need for clinics outside of the insurance umbrella cash based only, but that is another discussion.

What we REALLY need is for healthcare to NOT be a "for profit" business and instead be a community service. Like it was when I was growing up. Before Reagan and his buddies decided that for-profit made sense in health care.

It's nice you picked an anti-Trump site and a pro-Obama site, but just looking at the base level of reversing Biden's disastrous crime bill from the 90s, creating an endless money stream for Black education, and opening up more opportunities for Black businesses in just those three things he has done more than the last 50 years for Blacks.

Not really. Crime rates have been dropping over the past 25 years, the Black education fund was already in place from Obama and just needed to be renewed. The opportunities are fine but open only to a small number who are in the right area (no money for Black businesses in Big Spring, Texas, for instance) and in the right category.

The bottom line is there would not have been a war with Trump. Biden is so weak Putin saw his open window of opportunity.

I disagree. Remember how many times Trump said he got other world leaders to promise things... and it turned out that they didn't or they reneged on the promises? I think Putin would have patted him on the head and sent him home, enthusiastically supporting Putin's plans to take back Ukraine.

But this is moot 'whataboutism', isn't it?

He can stop drilling in America, and cut back on the abilities of companies to explore for new oil. He can force a vaccine mandate, there is a lot a president can drive.

....those are Democrat talking points, yes. But that's not the sole source of inflation. A lot of it comes from abroad.

Speaking of corruption, what do you do with Biden's corruption? I personally think his failure to do anything for 40+ years is a worst crime though.

I don't think you should let Trump do your homework for you If you click the link (you probably won't, I know, but I offer it anyway) you'll see what he's done.

Haven't seen any evidence of corruption.

You sound like my friend who lives in Portland and tells me there is nothing bad happening there...lol

You know what? That's what my friends in Portland also say... nothing bad happening there.

originally posted by: Byrd
Twenty six billion[/url](with a b) isn't chicken feed in my book. Perhaps it is in yours.

Lol, did you read the article? It is to put a CA annual tax on overall wealth in CA. So money already paid taxes on would get an extra 1 to 2% yearly tax from the state. Not sure about your point here with this one. My first point was to tax the rich 90% and it would generate only 15% more taxes overall. Did you miss that part?

You need to raise taxes on the masses.

Nope. They need a break, as we Democrats have said. We also raised taxes on corporations which might be particularly evil.

So you want to tax the filthy rich liberals? Guess what... so do we.

Who is "we" they are not the rich liberals...

They're SUPPOSED to pay more. Remember all the tax breaks they've been given under Trump? In case you forgot, here's a salient quote from an article in the conservative Investopedia that talks about Trump and taxes.

Why should they pay more? Why should I pay more than you? We are both Americans, right? If everyone paid 10% they would still pay massivaly more than anyone else, but if you think about it we can have you pay 6% for 50k and some rich guy pays 90% of 100 million????? That is like saying because a person is rich they should pay 30 bucks for a loaf of bread.

You know what? That's what my friends in Portland also say... nothing bad happening there.

Guess what? I live 10 mins away...lol It's like two people in a room and one farts and my friend says it wasn't him... Portland is not just bad it is super bad.