There's A Verdict in the E. Jean Carroll/Trump Case

originally posted by: Oldcarpy2
a reply to: stevieray

And here you go again, no evidence for your claims and just having a pop at other posters and defending and trivialising abuse of women.

Quote ? Which post ? Details ?
Too much to ask I’m sure.

And I’m pretty sure people are getting sick of you saying this sh!t about them, and abuse.

You wouldn’t say it to my GD face buddy.

a reply to: stevieray

I would, if you weren't a faceless random keyboard warrior.

Your posts are for all to see.

Post some evidence for your claims.

Get out of my face. Buddy.

originally posted by: knoxie
a reply to: scrounger

him literally saying “I like to grab them by the pussy” was most likely all the proof a jury needed. His literal words! A confession really lol.

ill bet dollars to donuts when in a private moment in your past you made some sexual, racial and off color/bad taste/dark humor comments. just because you said those are you a racist, sexist, rapist, whatever? do you want that as EVIDENCE/PROOF you did something that some accused you of? oh and where in that comment did he say he did that TO HER SPECIFICALLY? WAITING

But, you’re dodging the question. Is it OK for a star to sexually assault a woman because it’s been going on for 1 million, probably more, years?

um did comment on that saying it was WRONG. guess you missed that.. along with the part you need PROOF/EVIDENCE

You can keep ranting, repeating and using the tired old tactic "but your ok with XX horrendous act"
you can keep showing that trump has said some really bad things (btw your comment was off the record with a hot mic, doesnt make it right but does provide context).

but does not change SHE PROVIDED NO EVIDENCE (LIKE WHEN IT HAPPENED) outside of "i said it happened"
thats not cooperated facts.

also if you REALLY WANT to play "what they said" game there is a interview on main stream media she saying "rape isnt bad" and "fantasy of women" .

can i use that to show it didnt happen case closed?

man get over it..
trump isnt an angel but you cant PROVE he did it.

she CANT REMEMBER THE DATE OF THE RAPE..
she waited 30 YEARS and had to have the law CHANGED JUST FOR HER to be within statue of limitations..

let me say this again.. no one could justify the law being changed for all the years of the law, until wanted to get trump.

also as you stated its a CIVIL CASE..
that means if your being technical UNDER THE LAW he has not been convicted of a CRIME..
also point out the RAPE CHARGE FOUND NOT GUILTY.
it was "sexual battery" (a charge NOT BROUGHT BTW) or claimed.

all the way around the only "evidence" was a woman who claimed the very real horrible crime of RAPE was her word and could not even give the year it happened.
something a rape victim REMEMBERS until dying day.

so convicted with NO EVIDENCE that he could defend himself about

so how can you prove he was even in that store since you dont have a date?

scrounger

originally posted by: knoxie
a reply to: scrounger

him literally saying “I like to grab them by the pussy” was most likely all the proof a jury needed. His literal words! A confession really lol.

But, you’re dodging the question. Is it OK for a star to sexually assault a woman because it’s been going on for 1 million, probably more, years?

oh just a point of order

i can find lots of comments from stern, rappers (pick one) , and other "artists" that cant be posted here and makes trump comments look like a Cspan speech"

does that mean when a woman makes a UNPROVEN AND CANT REMEMBER DATES accusation they are guilty case closed?

so what is your point again?

Scrounger

originally posted by: Oldcarpy2
a reply to: stevieray

I would, if you weren't a faceless random keyboard warrior.

Your posts are for all to see.

Post some evidence for your claims.

Get out of my face. Buddy.

Ah, you’re talking about all my posts. OK.
As far as the rest, up to you to control yourself or not. We‘ll obviously never meet each other.

a reply to: stevieray

Good day to you, good day to you. I'd love to meet you.

But you are a random keyboard warrior.

PM me and I will send you my contact details and I will pay for you to come over here for a proper chat.

Coward.

a reply to: scrounger

I think "WAP" changed the face of the Trump comments forever....

originally posted by: Oldcarpy2
a reply to: stevieray

Good day to you, good day to you. I'd love to meet you.

But you are a random keyboard warrior.

PM me and I will send you my contact details and I will pay for you to come over here for a proper chat.

Coward.

You end up with very little self control. Maybe the problem the whole time ?

a reply to: matafuchs

Seriously.
It's a Grammy-worthy masterpiece when Cardi B does it (10 times more graphically BTW).
Trump makes one comment in private and it's the most heinous crime of the century.

what truly terrifies me about this whole this is the legal ramifications of what was done to get this "conviction" of trump

It doesnt matter if the target was trump , clinton, biden , or "pick the person publicly most hated of the day"

this tactics used to get this verdict are TERRIFYING.

to recap

1. statue of limitations dont matter and can be changed to get ONE SPECIFIC PERSON for an agenda

to remind they OPENLY STATED they want a conviction of anything to stop him running/winning election to be president

2. the accused waited 30 YEARS to file any case

3. the accuser is to be taken (due to class of crime) AT FACE VALUE and not required to provide any BASIC facts like dates.

4. the biggest IMO that the accused MUST TESTIFY and PROVE they are innocent
in DIRECT VIOLATION of our most basic right
INNOCENT UNTIL PROVEN GUILTY IN A COURT OF LAW.

5. past comment NOT DIRECTLY PART OF THE CASE of one side (trump) is proof of guilt but the accuser has stated EQUAL OR FAR WORSE and thats ok.

I could make other points but let others take up that.

EVERYONE from the homeless on the street to the most powerful man in the free world and all in-between HAVE THE SAME CONSTITITUTIONAL RIGHTS.

once you remove them because you "want to get someone or stop them from being president" then NO ONE WILL HAVE THE RIGHTS

once you let this genie out of the bottle it WILL NOT MAY be turned on you want then are you gonna say?


as the saying goes

be careful what you wish for, you be damn sorry when you get it.

Scrounger

originally posted by: scrounger
what truly terrifies me about this whole this is the legal ramifications of what was done to get this "conviction" of trump

It doesnt matter if the target was trump , clinton, biden , or "pick the person publicly most hated of the day"

this tactics used to get this verdict are TERRIFYING.

to recap

1. statue of limitations dont matter and can be changed to get ONE SPECIFIC PERSON for an agenda

to remind they OPENLY STATED they want a conviction of anything to stop him running/winning election to be president

2. the accused waited 30 YEARS to file any case

3. the accuser is to be taken (due to class of crime) AT FACE VALUE and not required to provide any BASIC facts like dates.

4. the biggest IMO that the accused MUST TESTIFY and PROVE they are innocent
in DIRECT VIOLATION of our most basic right
INNOCENT UNTIL PROVEN GUILTY IN A COURT OF LAW.

5. past comment NOT DIRECTLY PART OF THE CASE of one side (trump) is proof of guilt but the accuser has stated EQUAL OR FAR WORSE and thats ok.

I could make other points but let others take up that.

EVERYONE from the homeless on the street to the most powerful man in the free world and all in-between HAVE THE SAME CONSTITITUTIONAL RIGHTS.

once you remove them because you "want to get someone or stop them from being president" then NO ONE WILL HAVE THE RIGHTS

once you let this genie out of the bottle it WILL NOT MAY be turned on you want then are you gonna say?


as the saying goes

be careful what you wish for, you be damn sorry when you get it.

Scrounger

It’s the USSR all over again. Show me the man you want wrecked, I’ll show you the crime I invent to do it.
Also, the classic warning - “you probably won’t hold power forever ….. do you want this in play for somebody wrecking you, some other day ?”

But the left /dems today are too mentally, socially, morally retarded to do anything but squeal with joy as they WIELD point # 1 …..
And too stupid to comprehend point # 2.

They are literally retarded children who don’t get any of it. They only understand the next 5 minutes of “hahahahaha”.
We become the USSR, and there’s no USA to stop it.

a reply to: stevieray

It all had to do the Adult Survivors Act, which, I believe, stemmed from Bill Cosby's sexual abuse of women.

On the day the law took effect, writer E. Jean Carroll sued businessman and politician Donald Trump for defamation and battery.[4] On May 9, 2023, a jury in a Manhattan federal court issued its verdict, finding that Trump defamed and sexually assaulted Carroll, and ordering Trump to pay her $5 million in damages.[5]

Five women have used the ASA to sue NBC and Bill Cosby, alleging that Cosby sexually assaulted, battered, or falsely imprisoned them.[6]

But it goes much deeper than that -

But the arguably more significant potential impact of the ASA is on the rampant sexual abuse that occurs in New York's jails and prisons.

According to the most updated numbers provided to Hell Gate by the Office of Court Administration, 106 cases have been filed under the ASA statewide; of that number, 80 have been filed in New York City courts, with half of those in the Bronx. And the majority of those cases have been filed by formerly incarcerated women, who are using the ASA to shine a spotlight on longstanding sexual abuse committed by correction officers and other staff in our state's jails and prisons.

en.wikipedia.org...

This Act was and is and will still be much needed for women to get the justice they deserve

And there was no conspiracy to get your boy. They did the same thing previously with the Ne York Child Victims Act of 2019.

The ASA is modeled after the New York Child Victims Act of 2019, which established a one-year window (later extended by an additional year) for victims of child sexual abuse to sue, raising claims that otherwise would have been barred by the statute of limitations.[2]

a reply to: quintessentone
Tell that to those who were not paying attention to all the “ elect me and I will get trump “ politicians in Ny.

Also explain the lady who sued telling people that the apprentice was her favorite television program.
If he did what she said he would not be on her favorite program.

These lies have power here no more.

Patented ats double post

originally posted by: Oldcarpy2
a reply to: shooterbrody

Well, you are cheerleading on sexual abuse against women?

Just wow.

What are you yapping about?
Please provide a quote to back that up, or retract it.

a reply to: quintessentone

first in cosby case the accusers KNEW DATES , TIMES and in many cases not 30 years aka WITHIN STAUTE OF LIMITATIONS.
yes some were not but alot were.

second.. we could (again) confirm he was with these women
NOT ONE PERSON can find (especially since NO DATE GIVEN) where they were in same place at same time.

third....
this may be unpopular and cold.
but even taking into account the power the perpetrator has YOU HAVE TO HAVE THE COURAGE TO REPORT THE CRIME within a REASONABLE AMOUNT OF TIME
30 plus years is quite frankly not that reasonable outside of maybe a WAR CRIME.

lastly..
the person accused has THE CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHT of ... INNOCENT UNTIL PROVE GUILTY IN COURT OF LAW...
no matter what the crime and their stature.. from fool to king, rich to poor, liked or not, petty theft or murder.

the person has to have this right that the crime MUST BE PROVEN and be by preponderance of the evidence (civil) or beyond reasonable doubt (criminal) .

just because the crime is heinous (rape sure as hell is, sorry to state this but some seem to claim if you dont say this your a rape supporter) does not mean you can go just on one persons word and another persons abit wrong comments NOT SPECIFIC TO THE CASE.

this clearly was done to get trump from being or running for president and (oh the irony) OPENLY STATED AS A GOAL.

once you twist the law to fit an agenda , in this case get trump , you CANNONT GET YOUR RIGHTS BACK/ put the genie back in the bottle

scrounger

a reply to: scrounger

Wasn't part of Cosby's case that he was slipping drugs into their drinks?

I think it was the drugging that pushed Cosby's case over the line.

originally posted by: shooterbrody
a reply to: quintessentone
Tell that to those who were not paying attention to all the “ elect me and I will get trump “ politicians in Ny.

Also explain the lady who sued telling people that the apprentice was her favorite television program.
If he did what she said he would not be on her favorite program.

These lies have power here no more.

Your comment just does not make any sense.

a reply to: quintessentone
Why would I expect you to understand it?
It refutes your bovine feces.

Nothing about her favorite show eh?
Yeah I expected you to completely ignore it.

a reply to: LordAhriman

Question - Who was Financing Her Legal Fees ?

Answer -

" Billionaire Who Funded E. Jean Carroll’s Lawsuit Against Trump Visited Epstein’s Island "


Hmm......

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