Georgia GOP chairman says he was just following orders from Trump lawyers

a reply to: putnam6

Ignore him. THIRTY-SEVEN posts so far today. Prior to this date his last post was June 30,2015.
Someone has been reactivated.

originally posted by: MrInquisitive

originally posted by: UKTruth

Utter nonsense.
The conversation was about finding FRAUDULENT votes and the recognition that only 11,000 had to be found to change the result.
In the face of literally hundreds of affidavits with respect to fraudulent activity and the more than suspicious way the count unfolded on the night, it is a perfectly legitimate request. In fact it’s a request that is a duty to make.

As i have said before that the election was rigged it’s blatantly obvious. That it can’t be proven in a court of law it’s not required to know it happened. We all saw it unfold from the moment the state laws began to change to facilitate election rigging through the unsupervised counting, the inexplicable shut down of the counts and the dead of night miracle turnaround in Bidens favour.
Be happy your side win a rigged election if you want, but don’t gaslight.

Says the person who equates the US to North Korea. And for the record, Trump asked specifically for 10,801 votes -- just enough to overturn the state election result.

Literally hundreds of signed affidavits attesting to fraudulent voting activity? Then why didn't any of the court cases involving these matters, some adjudicated by Trump appointed judges, including appeals to SCOTUS, which had three Trump appointed judges, find in his favor?

You claim the voting fraud is blatantly obvious, so it doesn't matter if it isn't proven in court. Sorry, but that ain't how the rule of law works. Your the one trying to gaslight with your bio-methane. You make all these claims but can't substantiate them. If the country worked the way you want to, i.e. never mind findings of fact in courts of law, then we would be living in system like they have in North Korea.

As for your claim of the dead of night miracle turn around for Biden. It was well known by GOP election strategist consultants that the late-night votes would come from mail-ballots that were predominantly from Democrats. And before you start bad-mouthing voting by mail, remember that Trump himself voted in this fashion. Evidently it's good enough for him, but not for the little people in the big cities that tend to vote Democratic.

As for perfectly legitimate requests to reanalyze the vote, that is what was done by Trump supporters in Arizona, and they ended up tallying an even larger margin for Biden.

10,801 because that was the difference. That is how many FRAUDULENT votes that would have to be found to change the result. Show me anywhere a transcript or source that there was a conversation about removing legitimate votes. After the 'very fine people' lies told by the media and democrat politicians (including the current President) , attempts to skew words and gaslight on meaning will not be successful.

No, it was not 'well known' that the mail in votes would be counted in secret, not included in the votes and then loaded via a thumb drive after the count had stopped only to be restarted in the early hrs.

As for the North Korea comment, arresting people and putting them in jail for questioning a Govt narrative is exactly the kind of behaviour they would exhibit. The US has made it a crime to ask questions and investigate extremely shady circumstances around an election. That makes them no better. If there was nothing to hide, there would not be so much resistance (and tyrannical response) to open and transparent investigation.

originally posted by: underpass61
a reply to: putnam6

Ignore him. THIRTY-SEVEN posts so far today. Prior to this date his last post was June 30,2015.
Someone has been reactivated.

Exactly, thus the gist of my post...

is it me or are we seeing this more and more

originally posted by: putnam6

originally posted by: underpass61
a reply to: putnam6

Ignore him. THIRTY-SEVEN posts so far today. Prior to this date his last post was June 30,2015.
Someone has been reactivated.

Exactly, thus the gist of my post...

is it me or are we seeing this more and more

I am seeing a bit more of it the last month. The smell of desperation runs deep with some of these too.

originally posted by: underpass61
a reply to: putnam6

Ignore him. THIRTY-SEVEN posts so far today. Prior to this date his last post was June 30,2015.
Someone has been reactivated.

Yeah, I've been "reactivated". What do you mean by that, that I was in some online sleeper cell, or that my power supply got replaced? As I said in one post here -- evidently one of my thiry-seven -- I left for a long time, looked in from time to time, then in the past few weeks got morbidly curious again, and started viewing threads daily, and finally I had had enough and had to voice my opinion on certain matters I couldn't let slide. Way, way too much far-right and pro-Russian malarkey on this site anymore. Nothing more sinister or psyop-ish than that. And no, George Soros doesn't pay me by the post or the word count either.

originally posted by: Justoneman

originally posted by: putnam6

originally posted by: underpass61
a reply to: putnam6

Ignore him. THIRTY-SEVEN posts so far today. Prior to this date his last post was June 30,2015.
Someone has been reactivated.

Exactly, thus the gist of my post...

is it me or are we seeing this more and more

I am seeing a bit more of it the last month. The smell of desperation runs deep with some of these too.

Oh yeah, the smell of desperation. I think you're smelling what you had for lunch.

From what I have found so far, is that very few of you right-wingers here can engage with someone who can hold their own in an argument and back it up with facts. A whole lot of refusing to engage, ad hominem attacks and really stupid word games. But then I "re-activated myself" to re-confirm this observation I have from past experiences with such folk.

And if that is as much as you can manage to engage with someone with views differing from your own, well so be it. It says a whole lot about you and nothing about me.

originally posted by: UKTruth

originally posted by: MrInquisitive

originally posted by: UKTruth

Utter nonsense.
The conversation was about finding FRAUDULENT votes and the recognition that only 11,000 had to be found to change the result.
In the face of literally hundreds of affidavits with respect to fraudulent activity and the more than suspicious way the count unfolded on the night, it is a perfectly legitimate request. In fact it’s a request that is a duty to make.

As i have said before that the election was rigged it’s blatantly obvious. That it can’t be proven in a court of law it’s not required to know it happened. We all saw it unfold from the moment the state laws began to change to facilitate election rigging through the unsupervised counting, the inexplicable shut down of the counts and the dead of night miracle turnaround in Bidens favour.
Be happy your side win a rigged election if you want, but don’t gaslight.

Says the person who equates the US to North Korea. And for the record, Trump asked specifically for 10,801 votes -- just enough to overturn the state election result.

Literally hundreds of signed affidavits attesting to fraudulent voting activity? Then why didn't any of the court cases involving these matters, some adjudicated by Trump appointed judges, including appeals to SCOTUS, which had three Trump appointed judges, find in his favor?

You claim the voting fraud is blatantly obvious, so it doesn't matter if it isn't proven in court. Sorry, but that ain't how the rule of law works. Your the one trying to gaslight with your bio-methane. You make all these claims but can't substantiate them. If the country worked the way you want to, i.e. never mind findings of fact in courts of law, then we would be living in system like they have in North Korea.

As for your claim of the dead of night miracle turn around for Biden. It was well known by GOP election strategist consultants that the late-night votes would come from mail-ballots that were predominantly from Democrats. And before you start bad-mouthing voting by mail, remember that Trump himself voted in this fashion. Evidently it's good enough for him, but not for the little people in the big cities that tend to vote Democratic.

As for perfectly legitimate requests to reanalyze the vote, that is what was done by Trump supporters in Arizona, and they ended up tallying an even larger margin for Biden.

10,801 because that was the difference. That is how many FRAUDULENT votes that would have to be found to change the result. Show me anywhere a transcript or source that there was a conversation about removing legitimate votes. After the 'very fine people' lies told by the media and democrat politicians (including the current President) , attempts to skew words and gaslight on meaning will not be successful.

No, it was not 'well known' that the mail in votes would be counted in secret, not included in the votes and then loaded via a thumb drive after the count had stopped only to be restarted in the early hrs.

As for the North Korea comment, arresting people and putting them in jail for questioning a Govt narrative is exactly the kind of behaviour they would exhibit. The US has made it a crime to ask questions and investigate extremely shady circumstances around an election. That makes them no better. If there was nothing to hide, there would not be so much resistance (and tyrannical response) to open and transparent investigation.

Wow, you just make my point for me. Yes, as you wrote

10,801 because that was the difference. That is how many FRAUDULENT votes that would have to be found to change the result.

That is specifically what Trump asked of Raffensberger in the infamous phone call, which among other things Trump is being investigated about. I'm happy to provide you a transcript of audio source for it, but it isn't about removing legitimate votes; rather, as you wrote, it is about adding fraudulent votes for Trump, in order to get him over the line. It's rather difficult to get rid of already cast and counted votes.

I also didn't say that mail-in votes were counted in secret. I said it was well known by political strategists of both parties, including Karl Rove, that the overnight count would turn an apparent Trump win from the evening into a Biden win by dawn. I don't know if you paid attention to the late-night election counts for president or state offices in crucial swing states, but some of these didn't even get called one way or the other until late into the night (say 3am Pacific Coast time) or even the next day. Hell, some congressional seats were not decided until a week or more later. That's just how elections roll in the US.

As for your claims of counting ballots in secret and uploading fraudulent votes with flash drives, you are the one that needs to provide documented evidence of this being the case. There is no way for me to prove a negative; however, there have been any number of court cases and other investigations of such matters, and none of them have risen to the level of having merit -- this being adjudicated by judges, often Republican ones, and some even Trump appointed. Now we have already been around the merry-go-round once regarding how you refuse to accept official findings of fact by courts and other investigations, remain stead fast in knowing what you believe the be the facts, never mind they were dismissed by courts. That is on you, not on me. In a democratic country governed by the rule of law, you have to accept court findings. If you don't, you're jonesing for anarchy and rule by might, the latter of which is how N Korea is run.

And speaking of which, I'll around the merry-go-round one last time and humor your obtuseness by explaining once again that people who have questioned the "government narrative" haven't been arrested and thrown in jail. It is people that have committed actual crimes, such as attempted election fraud, putting for illegitimate elector slates and breaking into the capitol building to interfere with the peaceful transfer of power that have been arrested and put on trial. Tell me, since your questioning the election results, have you been arrested and thrown in a Biden labor camp? How about all your fellow travelers on this website and elsewhere on the internet, and even the Jan 6 protestors who didn't trespass into the capitol? Are they being thrown into prison? I haven't heard of any. But if we all were living in N Korea, Russia, China, Iran, Syria or a host of other countries, you can bet your sweet bippy that you and they all would be in prison.

This is the second time I've gone around the merry-go-round with you on these matters, I'm not going to do it again.

Lobbying a state SoS on vote tabulation is not a crime, generally speaking. Worked on a few Presidential campaigns and many more lower campaigns.

Everyone tries to argue their position.

10k votes in Georgia in 2020 is a rounding error and within the margin of error of tabulation systems.

Trying to turn it into a crime is silly.

Thinking every single candidate for anything doesn’t try to do so is silly.

If Trump’s call to GA SoS is a crime, every candidate has been a criminal at some point.

a reply to: MrInquisitive

originally posted by: JohnTitorSociety
Lobbying a state SoS on vote tabulation is not a crime, generally speaking. Worked on a few Presidential campaigns and many more lower campaigns.

Everyone tries to argue their position.

10k votes in Georgia in 2020 is a rounding error and within the margin of error of tabulation systems.

Trying to turn it into a crime is silly.

Thinking every single candidate for anything doesn’t try to do so is silly.

If Trump’s call to GA SoS is a crime, every candidate has been a criminal at some point.

a reply to: MrInquisitive

Asking the Sec of State to pull just enough votes out of his butt to overturn the election, while gently threatening him as well is another matter entirely.

You are welcome to your fantasies.

a reply to: MrInquisitive

a reply to: MrInquisitive
Cool story bro

originally posted by: Mahogany
Way to deflect. There is nothing more un-American than a coup attempt.

It failed, but it was still a coup attempt. And now the collaborators are implicating the ring leader as the indictments get closer.

Which coup attempt are we talking about here?

The successful coup of a sitting president by the Democrats, FBI, CIA, and CDC, not to mention the attack on and defunding of local law enforcement through months of "peaceful" protests instigated by the Democrats (which was then followed by the militarization of the IRS)?

Or the "coup" that the media told you happened on January 6th? The same media who lied to you about Russian Collusion, Ukraine, Hunter Biden, Covid...

Here's a refresher:

www.npr.org...

Ex-Capitol Police Chief Says Requests For National Guard Denied 6 Times In Riots

Maybe you don't know what a coup is.

originally posted by: MrInquisitive

originally posted by: LSU2018

Because there wasn't an attack, those police let them into the building. Stay tuned into your left wing media bro, you'll never learn if you do.

You're saying you didn't see the video of MAGA demonstrators battling Capitol police within the capitol building. Seriously? Police in riot gear being punched, kicked, bludgeoned, crushed? Really? Let me guess, you didn't bother watching any of the Congressional hearings on the Jan. 6 attack because you only watch FOX and other like-minded right-wing propaganda media.

How about we just both agree to live in are own two worlds -- me here on earth and you on Bizarro world.

i think you are talking about the
tenn capital after the nashville shooting.

btw, how's biden working out for ya?

the phone call is coming from inside the house now.

originally posted by: JohnTitorSociety
You are welcome to your fantasies.

a reply to: MrInquisitive

Have you bother to listen to Trumps call to Raffensperger? I'm just paraphrasing what he said/did in it. Let's see what comes out of the Georgia investigation, and discuss it more then. But I have noticed the distinctive way all of you right wingers dismiss stuff out of hand that doesn't comport with your world view. Not impressed, not impressed one bit. #sad

originally posted by: underpass61
a reply to: MrInquisitive
Cool story bro

Küle band, bro. But what does it have to do with what I've written?

originally posted by: sarahvital

originally posted by: MrInquisitive

originally posted by: LSU2018

Because there wasn't an attack, those police let them into the building. Stay tuned into your left wing media bro, you'll never learn if you do.

You're saying you didn't see the video of MAGA demonstrators battling Capitol police within the capitol building. Seriously? Police in riot gear being punched, kicked, bludgeoned, crushed? Really? Let me guess, you didn't bother watching any of the Congressional hearings on the Jan. 6 attack because you only watch FOX and other like-minded right-wing propaganda media.

How about we just both agree to live in are own two worlds -- me here on earth and you on Bizarro world.

i think you are talking about the
tenn capital after the nashville shooting.

btw, how's biden working out for ya?

the phone call is coming from inside the house now.

Are you that ignorant or just intentionally obtuse? The fact that you can't acknowledge the violence that went down in the US capitol on Jan 6 just shows that you're not writing in good faith. So why don't you just go and have your way with whatever that is a picture of in the bottom of your profile.

How's Sclorotic Joe working out for me? Far f-ing better than Trump did. Sure, that's a very low bar, but it is a fair comparison.

As for the phone call is coming inside the house now remark. Oooh scared. What a moronic line coming from someone who evidently supports Trump, whose administration was rife with anonymous sources tattling on him as well as whistleblowers from inside his administration.

Why do you think I am a right winger?

I have listened to the full call. Trump is inartful, being inartful lobbying for an aggressive review of votes when he believes there are more invalid votes than the margin of victory is not remotely close to a crime.

Literally every candidate in a very close election has done this.

a reply to: MrInquisitive

Here’s a strange facts (you can verify these):

Woodstock in the late 60s was way more dangerous than being in DC on 01-06-2021.

Being “anywhere else in the country” was dramatically more dangerous than being in DC on 01-06-2021.

Americans were more likely to be injured or die from beee, wasps and hornets on 01-06-2021, than being injured or killed in DC on 01-06-2021 in the area from the White House, across the mall and in and around the US Capitol (by 2 orders of magnitude or more).

Any American on 01-06-2021 was more likely to die in a car accident than any American in all of DC on 01-06-2021.

I could go on endlessly with such facts.

Being in DC on 01-06-2021 was one of the safest places to be in the country.

Strange for an “insurrection” when Bees were a greater threat to Americans.



a reply to: MrInquisitive

The fatal mistake Trump and his lawyers made was to not find a patsy to lead their coup; not surprising since Trump has never had the luxury of having a political machine the likes of the establishment Democrats and Republicans.

Here is how you attempt a coup while keeping your own hands clean.

Advocates of the long-shot bid to turn the Electoral College against Donald Trump have been in contact with close allies of Hillary Clinton, according to multiple sources familiar with the discussions, but the Clinton camp — and Clinton herself — have declined to weigh in on the merits of the plan.

Clinton’s team and the Democratic National Committee have steadfastly refused to endorse the efforts spearheaded by a group of electors in Colorado and Washington state. But, as with the ongoing recounts initiated by Green Party nominee Jill Stein, the Clinton team has not categorically rejected them, leaving the collection of mainly Democratic electors to push forward with no explicit public support from the failed Democratic nominee or any other prominent party leaders.

link

Luckily for us Americans both coup attempts resulted in nothing more than protests around the country, then life got back to normal quickly there after.