Getting rid of certain topics because they are done to death

originally posted by: yuppa
Yeah. anything having to do with Transgenders are evil,deny science or reality. Yes we all know you cannot change your GENETICS. IS this a reason to pile on unless you have a personal hatred or dislike? No it is not but we have posters who flat out REFUSE to accept newer science and even when shown they refuse to believe it or pile on because you not like them.

I know You would like a place where we can discuss things Darko and I appreciate it. It is just some subjects should be off limits unless VERY VERY narrowly discussed. So I am just shooting this idea here to see if posters would want a stricter posting pattern on certain subjects. WHy? Because its always devolves into you this you that im so macho i cant stand transgenders or whatever the hot topic of the day is.

Anyway thank you for giving us all this platform to post on regardless of what you and th eadmin decide on this topic. Appreciate
the time.

I see you don't want discussions that don't fit your own narratives, views, and beliefs.

There is Reddit for this and the mainstream forums where claiming there are 72 genders is considered acceptable and true.

You say that posters are not accepting new science but I can assure you that what you call new science is nothing more than part of an ideology which had no basis in science. Your interpretations on other threads show precisely this.

For example do we suppose to accept that there are 72 genders, biological sex can change, men can get pregnant and then give birth, intersex is a third sex, attempts to equate intersex with transgenderism...

I recall that yesterday you argued that

Sex is Male or female genitals. Some chromosomes are not always MALE or FEMALE correct. men with 3 x chromosomes for one exmple.

External genitalia doesn't determine biological sex as surgery can be performed that removes external genitalia. Removing your genitals doesn't change your biological sex.

Sex depends entirely on the Y chromosome.
If you have one then you are a male regardless of the total amount of sex chromosomes (usually 2).

You said that some chromosomes are not always male or female. This is an argument that doesn't make any sense!!

You have also given an example of one having 3 Chromosomes. Let's say this is the following combination: XXY which is commonly known as Klinefelter Syndrome. This is a genetic disorder and not another gender or another sex as you claimed above, which affects males only. You see the presence of the Y chromosome in the in the XXY? This is what determines sex. This person is a man/boy depending.


Do you really want us not to challenge these claims and arguments that have no basis on science whatsoever.

Trump, Biden, right and left have also been done to death and turn into a fight or an echo chamber. Sooner or later ATS will get taken down when the law or media says its a bad thing. Vaccines have been done to death as well. UFO's have been so done to death its rare to find it or at least anything worthy. 9/11, religion, Serpo, etc. Freedom is the freedom to be offended.

Not that many here really hate the whole idea of transgender people, they hate the push and wish the trans community would push back against the agenda. Like if next week nerds were the thing and every movie, tv show, AD and news story an over the top nerd was there. Next it could be the Macarena or even chicken wings. It would incite hate in a few people but many more would just be hating the push. You can't force a group of people to like something by force.

Set up an annon poll and ask everyone here who hates trans and who hate the unnatural push (but only members who have posted in the last 3 months)

originally posted by: Athetos
if you want carefully curated and censored discussion that’s unanimous and unwavering in its advocacy for “the current thing” maybe you should check out Reddit. You will love it.

a reply to: yuppa

Absolutely! This is what I said!

It looks like they can't argue in favour of their views and beliefs in certain topics and they wish to bring soft censorship into the threads. Or even heavier at a later time.

originally posted by: nugget1
I thought the scroll button was for bypassing subjects we're not fond of. I don't see people starting threads on a lot of other topics that they say aren't active anymore; maybe more people should start threads on topics that interest them? Be the change!

It's obvious they don't want topics that they feel uncomfortable with to be discussed as they cannot support their views and beliefs.

The OP is obviously referring to the transgender-critical threads and especially the criticism of the transgender ideology and the trans-activists.

originally posted by: AdifferentOpinion
I am not one to not listen to the opinions of others but the spate of trans hysteria on this board and the negative dehumanizing attitudes and language used are a bit over the top.

It's like if someone has a different opinion or wants to engage in an actual discussion, they are gangbanged and driven off or reach the point where it is pointless to even calmly try to slow down what seems like the rage expressed by some.

With this supposedly kinder and gentler new phase of ATS, maybe we could just tone down the name calling and slurs so that more voices can actually be heard?

This topic is so embedded here, it manages to invade just about every other thread in one way or another as if trans people are the source of all the world's problems or something and some seem to be downright obsessed with the whole thing. It is hard to understand.

The name calling is coming from those who accuse other as being bigots, transphobs, and the rest. When it's obvious that the vast majority of the threads openly criticise the transgender ideology and the trans activists.

You seem to be very concerned for a new member about what the tone of the conversation will be and how others will express their views.

Don't we now suppose to challenge the claims made in the name of this ideology?

Take a look at what you said yesterday

What is a woman? To that I ask what is a man without referring to body parts? Are men and women not cultural labels based on societal roles, appearance, behavior and experiences? What makes a boy become a man? Is it a special birthday or is it the things we consider men to be; traditionally providers, protectors, leaders, guardians, etc

The gender ideologists believe that men and women are cultural labels which are based on societal roles, appearance, behaviour, and experiences.

Scientifically speaking men and women are not cultural labels but manifestations of the chromosomal make up of an individual.

A man is an adult human male
A woman is an adult human female

Sex is determined by the Y chromosome.

Do you remember making this argument?

I am asking you again.


I don't think anyone who knows even the basics will not challenge the argument that men and women are cultural labels. They are not. That is only true when the gender ideology is involved...

originally posted by: Terpene
a reply to: yuppa

There is nothing sane in these ATS(Another Trans Story)threads. Just phobes and closet people doing their confirmation bias. It's so resilient against new findings there is absolutely no interest in denying ignorance. They seem to be the threads where some celebrate theirs...

Classical accusations of phobia...

New findings?

Just fact-free claims and assertions.

72 genders
Sex Change
Men can get pregnant
Men can give birth
And so many other...

Didn't intitally agree with the premises of this thread, then posts made reminded me that certain posters attempt to turn every thread onto their own personal obsession and copy paste the same posts over and over again.

Ideally stricter moderation (and consequences) around staying on topic and not spam posting would be the solution. Appreciate that this is yet more work for staff/moderators.

a reply to: yuppa

I take it you're one of the permanently offended by people who don't follow your cult like behaviour?
Take the p out of trannies is fun,why does that bother you so much?
Are you a 'trans'?

originally posted by: igloo
a reply to: yuppa
As long as women are being raped in jail by predators who claim to be trans and children too young to consent are being given hormones/surgeries, yes I will speak out.

Do I have a personal hatred or dislike? Not against individual trans people but against a system that thinks mutilating children before they can consent or women being raped is ok.

If that's your "newer science" then I am against it but it really has nothing to do with science. That's the catch all insult hatched in the covid era to dismiss people who had concerns.

A society cannot ethically balance rights in one group by taking rights away from another and that's why these threads keep popping up.

It's obvious they try to shift the conversation in the direction of bigotry, hate, and transphobia. It's a classical tactic seen almost everywhere that has only one purpose: To reduce criticisms of the gender and transgender ideologies and even to censor and silence those who oppose them.

a reply to: yuppa

So I am just shooting this idea here to see if posters would want a stricter posting pattern on certain subjects.

Give us an example of this posting pattern. I assume you also only want certain sources usable so give us the preferred list of acceptable sources.

I’ve never given the subject a single serious thought. Just pointing out that while there are genetic chromosomal abnormalities, such as XXX chromosome replication error syndrome, the % of people on the planet with actual chromosomal abnormalities is an infinitesimally small group, and neither they nor non-abnormal chromosomes can be changed by any science known to man.

a reply to: Insurrectile

originally posted by: ScepticScot
Didn't intitally agree with the premises of this thread, then posts made reminded me that certain posters attempt to turn every thread onto their own personal obsession and copy paste the same posts over and over again.

Ideally stricter moderation (and consequences) around staying on topic and not spam posting would be the solution. Appreciate that this is yet more work for staff/moderators.

You are correct in some respect.

Imagine what is to see the arguments that sex can change, men can get pregnant, give birth, that there are multiple sexes, hormones and removal of genitals lead to happiness and the real you which your brain has told you is correct...

Giving the finger to science and medicine, disregard reality completely, and spam the threads with anti-scientific nonsensical claims in the name of an ideology that is fact free.

originally posted by: JohnTitorSociety
I’ve never given the subject a single serious thought. Just pointing out that while there are genetic chromosomal abnormalities, such as XXX chromosome replication error syndrome, the % of people on the planet with actual chromosomal abnormalities is an infinitesimally small group, and neither they nor non-abnormal chromosomes can be changed by any science known to man.

a reply to: Insurrectile

The above is called trisomy and is rare genetic disorder that you plays in the hands of the activists as they have no clue of even the most basics starting calling a sex development disorder as anew gender or new sex.

If a topic has been "done to death" or whatever wording was used, then surely that means its a popular topic?.

I think the way the new owners are going about are doing a fantastic job as it is. Bringing back Wikileaks content etc.
Their whole idea is to make this place one of the only places on the wwww (whole world wide web) where free speech is not denied.

Just because a topic has been done so often imho shows that its a popular one.

And hey, if you dont like it, skip it dont click.

originally posted by: SecretKnowledge
If a topic has been "done to death" or whatever wording was used, then surely that means its a popular topic?.

I think the way the new owners are going about are doing a fantastic job as it is. Bringing back Wikileaks content etc.
Their whole idea is to make this place one of the only places on the wwww (whole world wide web) where free speech is not denied.

Just because a topic has been done so often imho shows that its a popular one.

And hey, if you dont like it, skip it dont click.

Absolutely agree.

But the issue some members are having problems with is the continuous criticism of the transgender ideology and the trans activists and gender ideologists. It's for this reason this thread was made. On the top of this other conversations that 'offend' the woke ideology could also become a subject for censorship.

a reply to: JohnTitorSociety

Wouldn't be the first time, that...

an infinitesimally small group

... somehow happens to be the "new thing in town". The amount of identity politics (in lieu of actual political content) is staggering to me, how do you feel about the sociological implications in all of this?

I suggest a Certified Board of Experts be established.

They could determine and provide proof of all the Regulatory questions.

Certify claims like:

1. PhD, MD, DO
2. MBA
3. CLU
4. CPA
5. Master of Laws and Doctor of Juridical Science
6. RpH
7. RN, BSN, MSN, DNP
8. etc. 😎

I guess no one here remembers history of ATS .
The reptilian shape changers .
Martian artifacts .
JFK .
Bases on the Moon .
I could go on .
All done to death .
Literally .
These topics today will die out on their own , especially when other hot topics come up .
To continue getting rid of threads and forums is only going to turn folks away .
Just my thoughts .

Folks , ATS is NOT Romper Room 2.0 .
Neither does it cater to one group , as some folks here would love to see .

No it is not but we have posters who flat out REFUSE to accept newer science and even when shown they refuse to believe it or pile on because you not like them.

What newer science?
I have not seen one actual scientific study that suggests anything different from what we know.

What I have seen is articles and opinions.
Science is not biased. Scientists can be and are, as they are human.

originally posted by: Gothmog
I guess no one here remembers history of ATS .
The reptilian shape changers .
Martian artifacts .
JFK .
Bases on the Moon .
I could go on .
All done to death .
Literally .
These topics today will die out on their own , especially when other hot topics come up .
To continue getting rid of threads and forums is only going to turn folks away .
Just my thoughts .

Folks , ATS is NOT Romper Room 2.0 .
Neither does it cater to one group , as some folks here would love to see .

It's concerning that in an open forum like this there are attempts to censor conversations and also attempts by the gender ideology and trans activism to have a favourable treatment. That can be extended to include the woke crowd that will also require more and more favourable treatment. It's like they are pushing to resemble what twitter was before Elon Musk took over.