Biden family will be exposed Wednesday.

Let's take a stroll down memory lane....
Senate report links Hunter Biden to ‘prostitution or human trafficking ring’

Hunter Biden allegedly sent “thousands of dollars” to people who appear to be involved in the sex industry, according to Wednesday’s report released by Senate Republicans.

The report claims unspecified records show that Biden “has sent funds to non-resident alien women in the United States who are citizens of Russia and Ukraine and who have subsequently wired funds they have received from Hunter Biden to individuals located in Russia and Ukraine.”

“The records also note that some of these transactions are linked to what ‘appears to be an Eastern European prostitution or human trafficking ring.’ ”

The allegations are contained in a footnote to a section of the report that details potential “criminal concerns and extortion threats” involving Hunter Biden and other members of the Biden family.

www.nypost.com...

a reply to: MrInquisitive

Not a good look, Biden haters.

You know what else isn't a good look? Defending pedophiles. Not a good look at all.

originally posted by: socialmediaclown
a reply to: MrInquisitive

Not a good look, Biden haters.

You know what else isn't a good look? Defending pedophiles. Not a good look at all.

So, in a thread claiming that big evidence is coming out in a GOP-led committee press conference about Joe Biden and his family, in which I am merely asking what concrete evidence of claims against them there are, and pointing out that the chair of the committee is now saying something to the effect of "ummmm, we lost our witnesses and whistleblowers", and consequently suggesting that people hold off on their accusations in this matter until some actual evidence is provided, you're claiming that I am defending a pedophile. I guess that is the only thing you have to detract from the points I have made.

But back to this supposed pedophile stuff involving Biden. First off, that belongs in a separate thread. It has nothing to do with what the press conference last week was about. Second, I'm not defending Biden in this matter -- a matter, which I'll add hasn't been proven either. The alleged diary of Ashley Biden has not been proven to be hers. I know not of her coming forward and owning up to this diary or the specific remarks about showering with her dad. The alleged diary was allegedly bought by Project Veritas for $40k, and the people who sold it to PV have pleaded guilty to transport of said diary across state lines -- a federal offense. Project Veritas has an extreme rightwing agenda, is known for editing and showing out-of-context "sting" videos, has been found guilty of illegal wiretapping, and the hitherto head and founder of PV, James O'Keefe, has recently been ousted from his leadership position there. And JO'K has said the diary could not be confirmed to have belonged to Ashley Biden. Not a good look for a source of information at all.

As to the pedophile claims against Joe Biden, they are alleged at best, and have not been made by the alleged victim herself. So your saying Joe Biden is a pedophile is unsubstantiated; hence, your claiming in anyway that I am defending a pedophile is an unsubstantiated claim having nothing to do with what I am saying about Biden. In fact, I am not defending Biden at all. All I am doing is saying, I've yet to see any actual evidence that Biden is guilty of any financial wrongdoing and related policy decisions. That's not defending a person, that's asking for some actual evidence in a big accusatory claim.

But hey, as to defending persons guilty of sexual crimes, aren't you a big defender of Donald Trump, the self-professed serial sexual assaulter of women (as per the Access Hollywood Tape) and now convicted sexual assaulter? And I believe you have directly defended him in the thread on this topic, as well as attacking the plaintiff in this court decision. Like it or not, this was a finding of fact in a court of law. Sure, he's appealing it, but for the time being he has been found guilty of sexual assault, and you defend this guy all the time in all sorts of matters. What utter hypocrisy. Talk about not a good look at all.

Honestly, the claim that I am defending a pedophile is the lamest response yet that I have ever received to any post of mine at ATS, and I must say there is already a very high bar in that respect. But hey, when you got nothing else whatsoever, go with the completely unfounded ad hominem attack.

a reply to: MrInquisitive

No, I'm not a big defender of Donald Trump. I have ambiguous feelings toward Trump. I'm on the fence. As you claim to be concerning Biden (but what I actually believe to be closer to the truth is you're a big fan).

The pedo stuff belongs in a separate thread. Okay, sure. We can continue sweeping that issue under the rug even though it's the biggest issue. The main issue. The worst offense which is why no one wants to touch it with a 10 foot poll. Aside from the fact that everyone involved in the coverup is implicated, somehow.

"But but but there's no evidence..."

Lol. Such naivete. When the truth is exposed, I foresee a lot of deluded people scrambling for nearest rock to hide under in shame.

originally posted by: Guyfriday
a reply to: MrInquisitive

The Prosecutor in question was going after Hunter Biden.

The rest of this was a question. I hope a video of Joe Biden bragging about with holding money is good enough for you.

Watched the video. Which proved nothing. But here you go with some fact finding on the matter:

Fact check: Biden leveraged $1B in aid to Ukraine to oust corrupt prosecutor, not to help his son

The claim: Joe Biden threatened to withhold $1 billion from Ukraine to assist his son, Hunter Biden

While former Vice President Joe Biden oversaw foreign policy in Ukraine, his son Hunter Biden served on the board of Burisma Holdings, the largest gas company in the fledgling democracy.

Despite a recently concluded investigation by Senate Republicans that found no wrongdoing by the Bidens, claims to the contrary have continued to circulate on social media.

"VP Biden threatened to withhold 1 billion dollars from Ukraine to save his son's job," reads a meme posted to Facebook by Secure America Now. The meme has been shared more than 9,000 times since Oct. 18.

Secure America Now did not respond to a request from USA TODAY for comment.

Joe Biden leveraged aid to remove top prosecutor as part anti-corruption efforts

It's true that Joe Biden leveraged $1 billion in aid to persuade Ukraine to oust its top prosecutor, Viktor Shokin, in March 2016. But it wasn't because Shokin was investigating Burisma. It was because Shokin wasn't pursuing corruption among the country's politicians.

As European and American diplomats pressed Ukraine to clean up its corruption, they focused on Shokin's leadership of the Prosecutor General's Office, which he took over in February 2015.

Mike Carpenter, who served as a foreign policy adviser to the then-vice president, told USA TODAY that Shokin "never went after any corrupt individuals at all" and "never prosecuted any high-profile cases of corruption."

Charlie Kupchan, who was a special assistant to President Barack Obama and a senior director for European Affairs on the National Security Council, said anti-corruption efforts were "a big part of our diplomacy" with Ukraine, since "it was that corruption that allowed Russia to manipulate the country politically and economically."

As a result, Biden leveraged $1 billion in aid as "a stick to move Ukraine forward," Kupchan said. "He was acting alongside our European allies. Everybody was of a single mind that this prosecutor was not the right guy for the job."

Daria Kaleniuk, the co-founder and executive director of the Anti Corruption Action Centre in Kyiv, Ukraine, credited Biden, the International Monetary Fund — which threatened to delay $40 billion in aid for similar reasons — and others with the prosecutor's removal.

"Civil society organizations in Ukraine were pressing for his resignation," Kaleniuk said, "but no one would have cared if there had not been voices from outside this country calling on him to go."

After Shokin left the Prosecutor General's Office, Jan Tombinski, the ambassador from the European Union to Ukraine, called it "an opportunity to make a fresh start."

"I hope," Tombinski said, "that the new Prosecutor General will ensure that the Office of the Prosecutor General becomes independent from political influence and pressure and enjoys public trust."

Prosecutor was not investigating Burisma at the time Joe Biden called for his removal

Burisma Holdings was not under scrutiny at the time Joe Biden called for Shokin to be removed, per the National Anti-Corruption Bureau of Ukraine, an independent agency that has worked closely with the FBI.

In 2014, Shokin had investigated Burisma for money laundering and tax irregularities, per USA TODAY.

The probe focused on 2010-12, according to the National Anti-Corruption Bureau.

Hunter Biden — who joined the board in 2014 and served on it until early 2019 — was not the subject of the investigation.

The case was settled in court in 2017.

The recent report by Senate Republicans also contained no evidence that Joe Biden had pressured Ukraine to fire its top prosecutor as a way to protect his son, according to the Associated Press.

Andrew Bates, a spokesman for Biden, also said any suggestion of impropriety is false.

“Investigations by the press, during impeachment, and even by two Republican-led Senate committees whose work was decried as 'not legitimate' and political by a GOP colleague, have all reached the same conclusion: that Joe Biden carried out official U.S. policy toward Ukraine and engaged in no wrongdoing,” Bates told USA TODAY.

And heaven's sake, do you think that Joe Biden or any other politician, would admit publicly to any such malfeasance? Never mind that the clip was edited and taken out of context. If the whole conversation was provided, it would show that Biden was talking about the Obama administration's effort, in conjunction with the European Union, to combat corruption in Ukraine. Keep in mind that the pro-Russian/anti-Ukraine folk are always talking about how corrupt Ukraine is, well here is a case of the US trying to help fight corruption there.

You know, it's getting real tiresome when I ask for some evidence on a matter casting Joe Biden in a negative light, and I am given some dubious source or an edited, out-of-context video that can readily be fact-checked and debunked after five seconds of googling, and another minute of reading a more reliable source. Do better or don't bother. The sound of chirping crickets makes for a more compelling argument than the stuff that you Biden detractors dredge up.

originally posted by: socialmediaclown
a reply to: MrInquisitive

No, I'm not a big defender of Donald Trump. I have ambiguous feelings toward Trump. I'm on the fence. As you claim to be concerning Biden (but what I actually believe to be closer to the truth is you're a big fan).

The pedo stuff belongs in a separate thread. Okay, sure. We can continue sweeping that issue under the rug even though it's the biggest issue. The main issue. The worst offense which is why no one wants to touch it with a 10 foot poll. Aside from the fact that everyone involved in the coverup is implicated, somehow.

"But but but there's no evidence..."

Lol. Such naivete. When the truth is exposed, I foresee a lot of deluded people scrambling for nearest rock to hide under in shame.

Believe it or not, I am not a big fan of Sclerotic Joe. Some of his policies I agree with, but some of them are also pro-establishment or dimwitted attempts to appease the woke crowd. I'm not for him running again (he's too old, and hasn't done enough to gain the support of the Democrat base another time around), and honestly -- as I have said previously in this thread -- I am up for anything that keeps him from running for president again. I absolutely detest the fact that he is trying to get South Carolina to become the first Dem. primary state. He's doing this because he feels he has the black vote sewn up there, and that makes for the majority of Dems in the state. The problem is he'll never carry SC or most any other southern state. Rather, this is just a power grab on his part to get the political momentum rolling in his direction during the primary.

My problem is with the unsubstantiated accusations against him, which seem to be started mostly by anonymous internet memes. Show me credible evidence or I am not buying it. And for the record, unsubstantiated claims against him won't cause him to lose the Dem primary.

As to the alleged pedophile charge, yeah, I expect credible evidence here too. That's not being naive, that's avoiding being a character out of the "She's a witch!" scene in "Monty Python and the Holy Grail".

I grant you that Creepy Joe has a bad look when it comes to his hugging and kissing women, but he's a far cry less creepy than Trump, and all the stuff he has said and done. I would be happiest if both these guys stepped out of the race for prez this time around.

I do thank you for your honest engagement with me.

a reply to: network dude

Biden family will be exposed Wednesday.

Which Wednesday?

originally posted by: Freeborn
a reply to: network dude

Biden family will be exposed Wednesday.

Which Wednesday?

See, there was this group of people, they called themselves the GOP. Among that group, some members formed a committee that was meant to provide oversight and investigation into fraud and the like. Well, they found some, collected the evidence they had, and presented it to the world on Wednesday the 10th.


It seems that the Biden family created over 20 LLC's which received over 10 million dollars from hostile foreign nations, and it was distributed to the members of the Biden family. All of that was proven with bank records and official government records.

They only thing they didn't provide is the tie in with Joe Biden himself. Lucky for them that was already done with Tony Bobulinsky.

That should catch you up to today. There are other scandals and investigations going on with the Biden's, but this one bears the most fruit.

a reply to: network dude

Thank you.

Please don't be mistaken, I think Biden is as unsuitable for the esteemed position of President of The United States of America as Trump is - just maybe for different reasons - and I certainly don't doubt there are as many skeletons in his closet as there are in Trumps.

The USA deserves so, so much better.

originally posted by: Freeborn
a reply to: network dude

Thank you.

Please don't be mistaken, I think Biden is as unsuitable for the esteemed position of President of The United States of America as Trump is - just maybe for different reasons - and I certainly don't doubt there are as many skeletons in his closet as there are in Trumps.

The USA deserves so, so much better.

with all the new revelations of corruption, and then seeing the lack of interest in stopping it or at the very least, looking further into it, makes me think this is the norm, and all the people in DC are doing this. Which would be much worse than just a corrupt president.

None of this has anything to do with anyone other than Biden for now. But if it's more prevalent, we all have a much bigger problem.

a reply to: network dude

I must have missed evidence being presented that anything illegal was done. When was that presented?

a reply to: Xcalibur254

You didn't miss it. Comer and others on the committee admitted they don't have any evidence that any laws were broken.

a reply to: network dude

It is my considered opinion that essentially our governments are rotten to the core.
They are infested by people who believe then know and deserve better than those they either allege to represent or who ultimately pay their wages.

The government machine promotes ego driven, self-serving, self-aggrandising individuals and whose primary purpose seems to be to protect the privilege of the few over the best interests and wishes of the ordinary, everyday people of our respective nations.

Apologies if I've wandered a bit off-topic.

originally posted by: Xcalibur254
a reply to: network dude

I must have missed evidence being presented that anything illegal was done. When was that presented?

LOL, you just don't get it do you. No, nothing illegal was proven. But what was proven is that the Biden family has a thriving business, over 20 LLC's, raked in over 10 million from our adversaries, and with Tony Bobulinsky's evidence, we know Joe is part of it all.

NOW comes the questions. What were you selling?

Perhaps this is all just Hunter's artwork and he's super nice about sharing with the family, as his character has proven thus far. If that's the case, super, close the case. But in the same light that you continue to question Kushner's cash from SA, and Ivanka's business deals, this also needs to be looked at.

So there is a chance the Biden's aren't selling influence to foreign nations. But there is also a chance they are.

My thread title said they would be exposed. They were. I never said they would be arrested or charged, or even did anything criminal. That's not for me to say. What I think is another story, but it's irrelevant.

a reply to: network dude

And? So they are all profiting. Change the laws. However where are your 20 threads on the billions profited? You're up in arms over 10 million but justify billions. And hundreds of millions were obtained while two family members had WH positions when they couldn't even pass security clearances until Daddy just put them there, and one had his father pardoned for crimes by his father in law. Billions were obtained, given by the same Saudi who claimed he was shown classified info. Yet not a peep about it.

The cognitive dissonance.

These same liars, pushing trump Russia, defending mr Biden, is delish.
Keep it up.

originally posted by: frogs453
a reply to: network dude

And? So they are all profiting. Change the laws. However where are your 20 threads on the billions profited? You're up in arms over 10 million but justify billions. And hundreds of millions were obtained while two family members had WH positions when they couldn't even pass security clearances until Daddy just put them there, and one had his father pardoned for crimes by his father in law. Billions were obtained, given by the same Saudi who claimed he was shown classified info. Yet not a peep about it.

The cognitive dissonance.

So if it turns out Biden is making decisions based on what those who pay him want, you are good with that, because Trump? You have a sickness and really, I'm not kidding, no hyperbole, need help.

There is enough strange things here to warrant more investigation. And your anger and sickness won't change that. I think you may want to get that therapy puppy so you can deal with this, just in case it goes wrong.

If Trump or Trump's family did anything wrong, anything at all, I have no doubt the MSM will report on it, non stop. It's what they do. Conversely, the only place you (YOU) will hear things like this is right here. I don't peg you for a FOX viewer.

Why are you so afraid of looking into Joey? Are you personally invested in any of this?

originally posted by: shooterbrody
These same liars, pushing trump Russia, defending mr Biden, is delish.
Keep it up.

like a zit coming to a head, I think these PPL about about to pop.

a reply to: network dude

If they've found a crime. Charge him. I will not cry over it. I am not a Biden fan. I have no issues with investigations. The clown show though, with paid whistleblowers, lost whistle blowers, MTG wanting to bring in hookers, etc has been quite funny.

And have you looked in a mirror? I'm curious. My question to you was not about the msm looking into the billions. My question is why are there not 20 threads about it from you? You seem to be very keen on this 10 million. But what has added up to billions does not seem to bother you. Gained by WH employees with no standing or security clearance to even be in those positions. No threads, no cause of concern. Wonder why that is. It's ok for one, but not the other. I can only imagine if Biden had put Hunter in the same position as Jared. I'm sure he "read a lot of books" just like Jared claimed.

originally posted by: frogs453
a reply to: network dude

If they've found a crime. Charge him. I will not cry over it. I am not a Biden fan. I have no issues with investigations. The clown show though, with paid whistleblowers, lost whistle blowers, MTG wanting to bring in hookers, etc has been quite funny.

And have you looked in a mirror? I'm curious. My question to you was not about the msm looking into the billions. My question is why are there not 20 threads about it from you? You seem to be very keen on this 10 million. But what has added up to billions does not seem to bother you. Gained by WH employees with no standing or security clearance to even be in those positions. No threads, no cause of concern. Wonder why that is. It's ok for one, but not the other. I can only imagine if Biden had put Hunter in the same position as Jared. I'm sure he "read a lot of books" just like Jared claimed.

why is any of this about me?