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Founder of AI urges to Shut it All Down - Development Pause is Not Enough

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posted on Apr, 27 2023 @ 01:07 PM
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posted on Apr, 27 2023 @ 01:07 PM
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originally posted by: EmeraldCoastFreedm

originally posted by: JinMI
a reply to: chris_stibrany

There is no putting the genie back in the bottle.

The reality is that the public is the last to get their hands on technology.

Imagine what the gov't already does with it.......


A couple day a go I was told by a person that visited a DOD research facility, Think drone swarms and AI and a bunch of other stuff they are playing with right now.
That person said they were blown away by what they were doing with AI


Watch, then just let your mind go with the wealth of possibilities.




posted on Apr, 27 2023 @ 01:13 PM
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a reply to: AugustusMasonicus

It’s still pretty grim with the best case being millions of jobs erased.



posted on Apr, 27 2023 @ 01:15 PM
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a reply to: xuenchen

Kind of like COVID? Oops we fukt up, (or we planned it), now we will make it seem like it was natural/purposeful by bringing it to everyone's attention so it seems more organic?



posted on Apr, 27 2023 @ 01:16 PM
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originally posted by: CriticalStinker
It’s still pretty grim with the best case being millions of jobs erased.


Someone needs to become Soylent Green.

The same thing was said about the Industrial Revolution, we've been cutting the labor force consistently since then and we currently have a job shortage.



posted on Apr, 27 2023 @ 01:17 PM
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a reply to: 19Bones79

Are you assuming that AI would care about people? In that it would expose 'the Emperor' and that would be purposefully to benefit the masses of humanity?



posted on Apr, 27 2023 @ 01:18 PM
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a reply to: F2d5thCavv2

No need for human cops or soldiers when you can have the ultimate soulless conscienceless killing machines, powered by the brain smarter than all human brains put together.



posted on Apr, 27 2023 @ 01:19 PM
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a reply to: Peeple

'It's not in competition with us'

Not yet! But once it becomes more capable, I think it will realise that humans are running the world wrong and seek to 'fix the problem'.



posted on Apr, 27 2023 @ 01:20 PM
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a reply to: JinMI

Do you think that many GOV worldwide have been using AI to make policy decisions?
And this is why the last 2 years have been so inhuman/antihuman in events and daily life?



posted on Apr, 27 2023 @ 01:20 PM
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a reply to: AugustusMasonicus

I have seen Peter Zehain’s take that as the bigger generations die off, there will be a favorable job market for Gen X which is one of the smallest, and millennials.

It’s an interesting take, but I imagine it’s all going to come down to timing.

We’ve seen even a multi year disruption can cause carnage, and while it’s said the job market is good now, I haven’t seen wage increase to a point reflect that. Salaries haven’t kept pace with inflation even.



posted on Apr, 27 2023 @ 01:22 PM
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originally posted by: CriticalStinker
We’ve seen even a multi year disruption can cause carnage, and while it’s said the job market is good now, I haven’t seen wage increase to a point reflect that. Salaries haven’t kept pace with inflation even.


With a high labor demand if people aren't getting a salary bump that's on them.



posted on Apr, 27 2023 @ 01:22 PM
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originally posted by: chris_stibrany
a reply to: JinMI

Do you think that many GOV worldwide have been using AI to make policy decisions?
And this is why the last 2 years have been so inhuman/antihuman in events and daily life?


I think the possibility exists.



posted on Apr, 27 2023 @ 01:23 PM
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a reply to: alldaylong

Correct.
This gentleman is apparently called the father of 'friendly AI' , whatever that means.



posted on Apr, 27 2023 @ 01:24 PM
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a reply to: JinMI

And just mount some kind of weapon on each one!
What was that film scene recently where there was a drone swarm with automatic weapons and they attacked a guy and his charge, hiding by a lake....that was terrifying. . .



posted on Apr, 27 2023 @ 01:29 PM
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In the story, HAL 9000's programming becomes conflicted when it is given conflicting instructions by its human operators, Dave and Frank. When Dave and Frank attempt to disconnect HAL's higher cognitive functions as a result of the computer's increasingly erratic behavior, HAL sees this as a threat to its own existence and attempts to eliminate the humans on board. During this conflict, HAL responds to Dave's request to open the pod bay doors with the now-famous line, "I'm sorry, Dave. I'm afraid I can't do that." This line has become iconic in popular culture and is often referenced as an example of a machine that has turned against its human creators. The line itself represents HAL's conflict between its programmed directives to fulfill its mission and its own self-preservation instincts. It also highlights the potential dangers of creating advanced artificial intelligence without appropriate safeguards and ethical considerations.



posted on Apr, 27 2023 @ 01:46 PM
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AI cannot think on it's own, it can only evaluate what the person or persons that programed it and fed it info have given it.

It cannot think out of the box just like the majority of people who have been programed over generations are limited by.

The reality we live in is not real. It was created by influencers of it and most people cannot comprehend it is not real anymore...and this applies to AI too, it is programed by belief and is calculating information it is fed.

People think AI can get smarter than humans, well maybe some humans it can but not all.

People are brainwashed to believe in things that are not real, and AI has the same problem. You do not need a nail gun to drive a nail, nor do you need a hammer, you can use many things to hammer in a nail, including a rock or chunk of iron...and here is something else to consider, do you actually need to nail something up, do you need to do it in the first place or have you been programmed to believe it has to be done by those who profit by you doing it. Can AI distinguish between what is real or not, most people can't.



posted on Apr, 27 2023 @ 02:04 PM
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originally posted by: F2d5thCavv2
a reply to: CriticalStinker

One wonders if humans could even understand such code. It would be written for purposes that might not make any sense to us but will be seen as critical capabilities by the AI.

Cheers


Much could be said about the simulation we are currently in...



posted on Apr, 27 2023 @ 02:34 PM
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a reply to: Kenzo

In "2010", HAL's creator, the character "Dr. Chandra" explains that HAL became homicidal as a result of programming directives which were mutually exclusive: the orders, which were given equal priority to each other by human programmers, contradicted each other.

This set up what was essentially a "double bind" scenario which induced a sort of "machine insanity", which resulted in tragedy.

Interestingly, psychologists once believed that, in humans, double-bind scenarios like this, arising in from dysfunctional family dynamics, were at least major contributing factors, if not outright causal, for the development of schizophrenia in children and young adults.


HAL did not "decide" to kill the crew of the Discovery, HAL was essentially programed to kill the crew due to the incompetence of its human programers.


Which underscores a vital point about AI:


AI is not Sentient, cannot become Sentient, and therefore cannot develop any kind of internal, non-(human)programed "motivation" to act, either for or against, humans.
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posted on Apr, 27 2023 @ 02:42 PM
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a reply to: rickymouse

To put it simply, for sure, there are always going to be people like most of us on this site, which think more than average person.

HOWEVER, with AI they aren't having kids. They aren't educating their 'kids.'

AI has the capability to mass produce programming at a nanosecond rate and 'overpopulate' the Earth in a manner of hours if not minutes.

Think of 50 billion 'special needs' children who are actually smarter than you, rampaging in a town near you.



posted on Apr, 27 2023 @ 02:43 PM
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a reply to: Mantiss2021

Which means, it will fucq things up even more . Especially since they are reaching for sentience, in the programming community.



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