Macron asks Xi to reason with Russia for Ukraine peace and The Offensive What Happens If It Fails?

a reply to: vNex92

That Clown Macron has no real influence on China.

Neither does that clown Putin.

a reply to: TheRedneck

Mexico will put away.. Saudia has pulled away.. Japan is pulling away.. Indonesia is pulling away. All the BRIC nations and Africa is pulling away.. Not much left..
This is a plan

a reply to: gortex

Putin doesn't have any influence over China?

Look again... they're major economic allies now. Thanks to the USA and NATO.

TheRedneck

a reply to: purplemer

Yes it's a plan... and for the first time in a long time, the USA is not privy to the details.

Watch Romania. Stay out of Minnesota.

TheRedneck

a reply to: TheRedneck

Watch Romania. Stay out of Minnesota.

You sunova......

a reply to: TheRedneck

I am surprised by this user claims that Russia has no influence.
I had being trying to be fair and kind to this user on my threads.


1.China is on the same side with Russia. Because China is aware if Russia loses in Ukraine it means China is next and you already clowns in the past calling out a regime change agaisnt the Chinese goverment.


The obsession by American polticans of their Regime Change polices which had being set by the previous admin in the 1960s.

When it comes to the question of Russia's influence on China.

Russia is trading now more with China and other nations in Asia than Europe, unfortunately Russia does have influence.

they're major economic allies now

Exactly and that is why Europe on this is far by the biggest loser.

a reply to: TheRedneck

Look again... they're major economic allies now.

China buying cheap Russian oil , they are taking advantage of the situation that doesn't mean Putin has influence over China , he needs them more then they need him.

It appears that Ukraine has decided to push for an Offensive in Bakhmut.

One thing to keep mind, Media has never mentioned the real casualties that Ukraine had lost since the start of the operations before the Bakhmut attack by Russians and their rebels allies.

a reply to: gortex

China understands Russia on Ukraine.
Look at here, Europe has a simaril situation with Kosovo, Bosnia, Spain.

This is the US position on catalonia. Same poistion on Ukriane, but not if you are Serbia, Bosnia and the serb republics?

United States – The U.S. State Department stated: "Catalonia is an integral part of Spain, and the United States supports the Spanish government's constitutional measures to keep Spain strong and united".

That statement is pure hypocrisy.

Its ok for Kosovo, Taiwan, but not if you are living in Eastern Ukraine? or Spain?
Why do they believe to their weirdo fantasies that Russia, China would have influence in Catalonia?

a reply to: gortex

What do you think those Chinese factories run on? Solar?



That's just a marketing ploy to sell to people who don't know any better. Like Germany bought into it a few years back and was crowing about how they were "100% renewable"... until Russian oil got cut off. Then Germany decided to fire up those old coal plants, lol. Oops!

Those factories run on energy... mostly coal at the moment, but China is trying to modernize, as well as expand, their energy production for more factories. They will surpass the USA in economic power within a few short years if they haven't already done so. China needs oil and LNG, desperately, if they are to fulfill those goals.

Yes, Russian oil is cheap right now... but it's going up. The fact it is cheap for the moment still doesn't prevent Russia from simply selling more, and China will buy every drop Russia can produce. Right now, there are multiple construction projects for pipelines between Russia and China underway, to add to an already substantial infrastructure already in place. Russia imports to China will soon be one of the world's most profitable trade routes.

What, you think the USA has any sway over China wanting energy? Do you really think they care what we want? Then why didn't China condemn the Russian invasion of Ukraine? All our buddies did so. Maybe it's because we use regime change to cancel entire civilizations on a regular basis, and if there's anything China will not tolerate, it is regime change. Russia can supply more energy than they can get from anywhere else, and Russia is not interested in regime change in China.

That's just a flimsy excuse to try and cover the fear that comes when one actually looks at the world stage. But if that's what you need to get through the day, so be it.

TheRedneck

a reply to: TheRedneck

What do you think those Chinese factories run on? Solar?

Coal mostly.

What, you think the USA has any sway over China wanting energy?

Did I say that ?
Nope.

Do you really think they care what we want?

Did I say that ?
Nope

and if there's anything China will not tolerate, it is regime change.

Tends to be the way with totalitarian regimes although Russia seemed intent on Regime change in Ukraine but I guess that's OK because they're not the evil West.

a reply to: gortex

No offensive but the only ones that seem to be intent on Regime change on Russia are US and their clowns muppets in Europe.

a reply to: gortex

Tends to be the way with totalitarian regimes although Russia seemed intent on Regime change in Ukraine but I guess that's OK because they're not the evil West.

Actually, from a Russian point of view, Ukraine has been in a civil war for decades. They feel the eastern Ukrainians are being culture-cancelled by the western Ukrainians, including Kyiv.

I haven't mentioned the "evil West"... I simply point out the facts. The West has engaged in some pretty horrific things throughout history... and that includes both the USA and the UK. I still love my country and the people who make it up... but I will not lie to cover up the atrocities my government has done and continues to do.

Truth is not evil.

TheRedneck

a reply to: TheRedneck

Actually, from a Russian point of view, Ukraine has been in a civil war for decades. They feel the eastern Ukrainians are being culture-cancelled by the western Ukrainians, including Kyiv.

Well if Russia think that then it must be true , nothing to do with the annexation of Crimea and the fermentation of the troubles in the East by Wagner PMC.

The West has engaged in some pretty horrific things throughout history

China doesn't have clean hands in that respect with wars against Japan and Tibet.

originally posted by: Freeborn
a reply to: putnam6

...does the average Ukrainian soldier have the will to fight for Crimea and the eastern provinces, alone?

I categorically assure you that I would fight to my dying breath if any foreign invasion force landed in any part of the UK and I can equally assure you that there are literally millions more like me.
Same as I'm certain that there are millions upon millions of Americans who would do the same if any part of the US was invaded.

Why would we expect Ukrainians to be any different?

Okay FB, Okay, Im already humming God Bless America

but it sounds as if the WP has a different take. Respectfully it's a legit question, even from an American.

At some point, the will of the Ukrainian fighter will be overrun by the sheer numbers Russia can throw at them. So it's not really good military strategy to throw your last troops in a battle for Crimea much less the eastern provinces, that has no chance of succeeding.

Everybody throws out inaccurate WWII analogies well here is one from the Traitors War, that applies better than any WWII analogy Ive seen. George Washington never won a battle against the glorious Redcoats, not one. He survived long enough by always retreating before he could be dealt a fatal blow. Or atleast that's the opinion of the author of George Washington's War Robert Leckie. Washington and his ragtag army didn't have 70% of America to go back to and regroup to fight another day as Zelenskyy does.

But you missed the broader point or ignored it, Ukraine isn't going to win this year or next without troops from another country, trained troops, and considering the systems are mostly NATO systems it will be NATO troops.

Thats the reality and it always has been...

www.19fortyfive.com...

www.washingtonpost.com...

DNIPROPETROVSK REGION, Ukraine — The quality of Ukraine’s military force, once considered a substantial advantage over Russia, has been degraded by a year of casualties that have taken many of the most experienced fighters off the battlefield, leading some Ukrainian officials to question Kyiv’s readiness to mount a much-anticipated spring offensive.

U.S. and European officials have estimated that as many as 120,000 Ukrainian soldiers have been killed or wounded since the start of Russia’s invasion early last year, compared with about 200,000 on the Russian side, which has a much larger military and roughly triple the population from which to draw conscripts. Ukraine keeps its running casualty numbers secret, even from its staunchest Western supporters.

Statistics aside, an influx of inexperienced draftees, brought in to plug the losses, has changed the profile of the Ukrainian force, which is also suffering from basic shortages of ammunition, including artillery shells and mortar bombs, according to military personnel in the field.

“The most valuable thing in war is combat experience,” said a battalion commander in the 46th Air Assault Brigade, who is being identified only by his call sign, Kupol, in keeping with Ukrainian military protocol. “A soldier who has survived six months of combat and a soldier who came from a firing range are two different soldiers. It’s heaven and earth.”

“And there are only a few soldiers with combat experience,” Kupol added. “Unfortunately, they are all already dead or wounded.”

Such grim assessments have spread a palpable, if mostly unspoken, pessimism from the front lines to the corridors of power in Kyiv, the capital. An inability by Ukraine to execute a much-hyped counteroffensive would fuel new criticism that the United States and its European allies waited too long, until the force had already deteriorated, to deepen training programs and provide armored fighting vehicles, including Bradleys and Leopard battle tanks.

originally posted by: gortex
a reply to: TheRedneck

Actually, from a Russian point of view, Ukraine has been in a civil war for decades. They feel the eastern Ukrainians are being culture-cancelled by the western Ukrainians, including Kyiv.

Well if Russia think that then it must be true , nothing to do with the annexation of Crimea and the fermentation of the troubles in the East by Wagner PMC.

The West has engaged in some pretty horrific things throughout history

China doesn't have clean hands in that respect with wars against Japan and Tibet.

Nanking has entered the chat...

Damn did US public schools get it wrong AGAIN, I always thought Japan invaded China, while China was embroiled in a civil war. Japan's invasion was so brutal the warring factions temporarily allied against Japan for years till Japan was finally expelled from the mainland.

a reply to: vNex92

The Balkans war ended in 2001. Be happy it's over now
Have a beer. It's settled now and most of the criminals have been sentenced 😁

a reply to: gortex

Well if Russia think that then it must be true , nothing to do with the annexation of Crimea and the fermentation of the troubles in the East by Wagner PMC.

That's not what I said.

A very wise man one put it quite succinctly:

"Everyone is following a logical, reasonable plan for survival in the type of world they think they live in."

ETA: missed this:

China doesn't have clean hands in that respect with wars against Japan and Tibet.

Show me any nation with clean hands. I dare you.

TheRedneck

a reply to: vance

The region is very hot.
Not the tension.

A small tension in the Balkan region could spark another conflict.
So to your claim that war is over.

Not quite exactly.

most of the criminals have been sentenced

Nope. None of the Muslim,Bosnian War criminals were arrested.
None of the Croatian soldiers,leaders were arrested for Operation storm.



Has ICC arrested any Hezbollah fighters for their war crimes in Bosnia yet?

a reply to: TheRedneck

I don't know... not reading Trump's thoughts. Maybe, though, it might have something to do with the fact that he's not President and cannot speak for the USA?

Oh come now. That's not stopped Trump commenting on all sorts of things, and why should it? He's still entitled to voice his opinion, isn't he?

He says he could put an end to this invasion, well he should do the world a favour and tell us exactly how.