Wagner-affiliated channel reports another extrajudicial killing of recruit with sledgehammer

originally posted by: KingDoey
a reply to: Oldcarpy2

But that is not a skull that was used on SS uniforms during WW2, that LITERAL nazis wore. And now Ukrainian units have been seen adorning on their uniforms?

You mean exactly the same SS Nazi skull seen used by Russia's agents and units in Donbass?

originally posted by: Cutepants

originally posted by: KingDoey
a reply to: Oldcarpy2

But that is not a skull that was used on SS uniforms during WW2, that LITERAL nazis wore. And now Ukrainian units have been seen adorning on their uniforms?

You mean exactly the same SS Nazi skull seen used by Russia's agents and units in Donbass?

These guys:



They're Ukrainian and Nazi.

You prefer Ukrainian Nazis to Russian Nazis?

That's a preference I don't have...

a reply to: MykeNukem

No I'm talking about illegal immigrants in Donbass wearing the SS Totenkopf.

You prefer Ukrainian Nazis to Russian Nazis?

No, that's the difference between you and I. I don't care about the optics and images they project to get you scared, angry and easy to control. I care about what people do not what clothes they wear, and I care about the results of this war more than the propaganda.

originally posted by: Cutepants

originally posted by: KingDoey
a reply to: Oldcarpy2

But that is not a skull that was used on SS uniforms during WW2, that LITERAL nazis wore. And now Ukrainian units have been seen adorning on their uniforms?

You mean exactly the same SS Nazi skull seen used by Russia's agents and units in Donbass?

It’s pretty well known that Russians in general absolutely HATE Nazis.

And Historically Ukraine brass sided with the Nazis SS and even celebrate to this day some SS piece of sh**. Because they hated Stalin.

Ukrainian hero’s of 1918’s Battle of Kruty turned later SS

- Averkiy Honcharenko, in 1943 became one of the organizers of the SS Halychyna[5] of which he was appointed a commander in 1945

- Petro Franchuk, one of the members of SS Halychyna

“Azov” is VERY well known even by Ukrainians as being Nazi SS Nationalist/extremist. However they’ve been more broadly supported in Ukraine since the situation evolved.

It takes maybe a minute of searching anywhere about Azov online and it pops up instantly.

It’s not a secret about the Azov being a straight up Nazi SS circle jerk.

You even have Paul Massaro “Foreign policy fella” a Zelensky cheerleader on Twitter posting a “Azov” flag that was recently sent to him and flaunting it around with “great honor” like an idiot.

a reply to: Imhere

It’s pretty well known that Russians in general absolutely HATE Nazis.

Sure, sure. We've heard it all before a thousand times. I just wonder why they give them medals if they hate them so much? And back in WWII Russia started as an ally of Hitler, for that matter.

But would you like to answer my question before we talk about Azov?

a reply to: MykeNukem

They're Ukrainian and Nazi.

You prefer Ukrainian Nazis to Russian Nazis?

Dmitry Utkin , Russian special forces officer who is believed to be one of those who Started Wagner PMC.


A Russian soldier captured in Ukraine , perhaps Wagner , who knows.


Torture chambers , extrajudicial killing of their own , invasion of a neighboring country , Azov are no more yet Russian Nazis keep on keeping on.

I know which ones are the biggest threat.

a reply to: gortex

Funny enough the press service for Wagner put out a video showing Dmitry yakuchenko, the allged sledgehammer victim is in fact alive.
This op was as legit as that Russian tank that intentionally squshed an innocent civilian last February. I bet you Don't want to remember that one since it was actually a Ukrainian vehicle that accidentally destroyed the vehicle and the lone senior driver survived.
I still want you to explain your contradiction a couple pages ago where you cited the admin for grey zone was killed last August and there were supposedly no updates since, but then they upload this hoax video just this week. Help me reconcile the contradiction.

originally posted by: Imhere
It’s pretty well known that Russians in general absolutely HATE Nazis.

Then why did ruZZia side and ally with Nazi Germany at the start of WW2 and discuss carving up Poland and other countries between them?

Doesnt seem like 'hate' to me, if you hated some one as much as you claim, you'd not work or support them in anything right?

originally posted by: Cutepants
a reply to: Imhere

It’s pretty well known that Russians in general absolutely HATE Nazis.

Sure, sure. We've heard it all before a thousand times. I just wonder why they give them medals if they hate them so much? And back in WWII Russia started as an ally of Hitler, for that matter.

But would you like to answer my question before we talk about Azov?

And Time magazine also gave Hitler person of the year in 1938.

Anyway, are you saying Russia has a loud and proud Nazi SS political arm? And propped it as its National guard?

If that’s true, then both Ukraine and Russia deserve to “invade” each other and go f themselves. And we should stay out of it.

Btw U.S once banned Azov and then reversed it in 2016. Shocker.

Different human rights bodies, including the Office of the UN High Commissioner for Human Rights and Amnesty International, have accused Azov fighters, along with those form other volunteer battalions, of human rights violations, including torture, kidnappings, and extra-judicial executions. Over the years, the U.S. stance on the Azov has swung between proscription (driven by acknowledgement of its neo-Nazi politics) and sly collaboration (on the grounds of geopolitical pragmatism). In 2015, the U.S Congress passed a resolution stating that military aid for Ukraine cannot be used for funding, arming or training the Azov Battalion. But in 2016, the ban was rolled back, reportedly under Pentagon pressure. Since then, there have been unsuccessful efforts by Congress members — one of whom has described it as a “neo-Nazi paramilitary militia” — to designate the Azov as a ‘Foreign Terrorist Organisation’. For all that, Azov social media channels are rife with videos of militia members training with American-made weapons.

Similar contradictions were also on display, for instance, in the way Facebook has reacted to the Azov. In 2016, it designated the Azov battalion a “dangerous organisation”. In 2019, it placed the Azov in the same category as the Islamic State (IS) and banned it. But after the Russian invasion on February 24, Facebook reversed the ban, allowing expressions of praise for the Azov. Significantly, the Azov has always had a pan-Ukrainian dimension, with documented links to American white supremacist groups such as the Rise Above Movement (RAM). It has volunteer fighters from different parts of Europe.

a reply to: Imhere

If that’s true, then both Ukraine and Russia deserve to “invade” each other and go f themselves. And we should stay out of it.

No. Wake up. This is not a #ing Disney movie where there's a bad guy or two bad guys that comically take each other out and then everything is fine. It's complicated but also a lucky chance to fix the ways we #ed up after the cold war and when the USSR collapsed. The goal absolutely is not and should not be to punish whole nations or have them f themselves up and hope that's going to fix things somehow magically. That's ridiculous. If we don't take control of this situation it's going be a festering wound for decades when we need to focus on China instead.

And if you really care about Ukrainian Nazis, then how is this not a good situation? The government relies more on Western support than ever, the US and EU are in control and can influence them to integrate Azov into the Ukrainian armed forces for example, which already happened. Personally I'm more worried about too much liberal influence in Ukraine after war than any Nazis taking control. The Azov party didn't even get into parliament anymore. The #ing president is a Jew who crossdressed on TV. Imagine being a Nazi fighting for him, lol. Beggars can't be choosers I guess.

Btw U.S once banned Azov and then reversed it in 2016. Shocker.

I know, it's good. They're learning to think pragmatically instead of neoliberal dogma.