A Review and Analysis of the Garabandal Prophecies

Originally posted by zerotolerance
living in a friary in Emmitsburg, Maryland

Emmitsburg has a false visionary. That woman who first lived
out in the west and when the bishop there told her to can it she
moved to Emmitsburg and started spouting again. I can't remember
her name right now.

Word coming down from the vatican has it to place
no stock in the beliefs of Garabandal.

Absolutely true. Three times the Vatican has declared it not to be
of supernatural origin.

However, there is some fun in entertaining guesses as to the date,
especially when there is a comet crumbling at a time when the
alleged date of the warning could take place.

Fun. Not serious. But interesting ...

Originally posted by mythatsabigprobe
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What happens when a comet dies? Is it a fizzle or a bang?

A comet can't die, it might desintegrate into smaller pieces, but no bang unless it enters the atmosphere of Earth, and if enough mass survives the entry into the Earth's atmosphere and hits the ground. I will also depend on the mass that survives entry into the Earth's atmosphere, you might see a bang. But if it desintegrates in space, I doubt anything will happen, except you have more pieces of a comet flying around.

[edit on 3-5-2006 by Muaddib]

reply to post by FlyersFan


That was Pope Leo XIII that had the vision!

Bill

reply to post by Springer


The question I have is: why do you consider April as the month of the Miracle? Conchita has always maintained that the Miracle would take place between February and June, but not in those months. When someone pointed out to her that, in an interview, she said that April would be the month of the Miracle, she said that she didn't remember the interview and, secondly, she never said that the Miracle would be in April. To this day she still contends this.

Second question: why would you even consider incorporating a pagan Mayan calendar into this whole thing?

reply to post by FlyersFan


No Eucharistic celebration was going on at the church in Garabandal during the night of the screams. You must be confusing this with Medjugorje. In fact, the "Night of the Screams" at Garabandal took place three days prior to the celebration of the Feast of Corpus Christi in 1962.

"Floating down the stairs backwards" does not constitute demonic deceit. Father Joseph Pelletier made an in-depth study of this phenomenon in his books "God Speaks at Garabandal" and "Our Lady Comes to Garabandal." Please read his observations. Also, 'ecstasies' are common in mystical phenonemon and they have been experienced by many saints.

There is nothing about the three days of darkness mentioned at any time at Garabandal.

Joey Lomangino is eighty years old as of this writing and does not suffer from Alzheimers or dementia. He is very much 'alive' and has all of his mental faculties intact. When he can, he and his wife attend daily Mass and are always present at Mass on Sundays and holydays.

I hope this clears up some concerns.

Very good work!! Two thumbs up for the original authors

I want to know more about St. Bernadette too. Why didn't the artist Fabisch correct his sculpture mistake when he carved the immaculate statue? and What is the purpose of the miracle secrets, shouldn't the church release the prophecies so more people will believe or is this also a conspiracy?


Interesting

Update

Mari Loli .. the only alleged visionary who claimed to know the date of 'the warning' - has died of LUPUS.

I have no idea what the status of Joey Lomengino is. Supposedly he's supposed to get his eyesight back when 'the warning' happens. But last I heard he had dementia and was in a nursing home ....

Mari Loli's death is just more confirmation for me that this is a false vision. She was supposed to be the one who let people know 8 days in advance that this was going to happen.

I suppose she still could .... ethereally.

Originally posted by FlyersFan
Update

Mari Loli .. the only alleged visionary who claimed to know the date of 'the warning' - has died of LUPUS.

I have no idea what the status of Joey Lomengino is. Supposedly he's supposed to get his eyesight back when 'the warning' happens. But last I heard he had dementia and was in a nursing home ....

Mari Loli's death is just more confirmation for me that this is a false vision. She was supposed to be the one who let people know 8 days in advance that this was going to happen.

I suppose she still could .... ethereally.

Hi FlyersFan,

Mari Loli knew the year but Conchita is the person who will let all know 8 days before. There is a question in my mind as to why Mari Loli was given the year if she was to keep it to herself - or did she in fact let someone know (the Pope maybe?). As long as Joey is still alive (and I received and email from him recently) the event is still a possibility. Should Joey die then I will have to say that Garabandal was a deception designed to dishearten people and destroy faith.

Michael.

This whole story reminds me of the 3 sisters who faked ghosts and their parents by tapping their feet and the like.

Here is my analysis: FAKE-FRAUD

ATS must have been having a slow week when springer posted this up.

A priest friend of ours brought this up in conversation today. So I thought I'd bump this thread. 'The Garabandal Warning' (Which I do not believe in) is supposed to take place in the springtime ... and that's coming around again. So I'm bumping this for 'new' folks (or at least those who weren't here five years ago when this thread was first started.

Here's my summation of this Beautiful story also with a tie to ET's Yes that's right, ET's (read below).... When Garabandal prophecies begin to unfold and the Great Miracle happens, that will confirm a fact that we are not alone, and this wonderful news came from Heaven not from Man !!!!

The Garabandal Apparition of the Virgin Mother

In the 20th Century, there have been numerous sightings of the Virgin Mary. These apparitions of Mary have been particularly seen in Spain. One of the most famous of these sightings, was a sighting made by four little girls in a small village called Garabandal, Spain.
Here is what the Virgin Mother told two of the visionaries Conchita and Mari Loli between 1961-1965:

1) After Pope John XXIII there will be only three more Popes. then it will be the
end of time, but not the end of the world (that would make Pope John Paul II our last Pope before the start of endtimes).

2) God is going to perform a Miracle in Garabandal at the Nine Pine trees that is
so Great that all will believe. Conchita knows the exact date of the Miracle: The Year, Month and Day, but was told by Mary, not to announce it until eight days before. All present during the Miracle will be cured of all illness and sickness. No one will doubt that this Great Miracle comes from GOD ! Our Lady said, that the Miracle of the Sun at Fatima in1917 will be considered small in comparison to the Great Miracle of Garabandal!

3) Before the Miracle, God is going to send a World wide Warning. No one will
escape it. First it will be seen in the sky, then felt in our hearts. We will see ourselves as God sees
us, the wrong we have done and the good we fail to do. This Warning is to prepare us for the Great Miracle. The Great Miracle will happen within one calendar year of the Warning. Only Mari Loli was told the Year of the Warning, but for whatever reason she did not make it public. Mari Loli passed away on April 20, 2009.. Many are saying that this is the Year of the World Wide Warning… or it’s really really close… I think I know the day not the year !!!

4) After the Miracle, God will Leave a Permanent sign at the Nine Pine trees to
be there until the end of time.

5) Joey Lomangino who lost his eyes in a freak accident when he was sixteen years old back
in 1947, will get new eyes on the day of the Great Miracle, and will see permanently. The
First thing he will see is the Miracle.

Garabandal had the Full Blessings of St. Padre Pio and Mother Theresa, It is not well known that St. Padre Pio was a major player in the Garabandal event ! I believe this will come to Light when things begin to unfold !

One day when the Virgin appeared to Conchita....Conchita asked the Virgin Mary if there was life outside our planet? The Virgin reply "Yes" and told Conchita of two places, ..now Conchita doesn't remember if Our Lady was talking about Planets or Stars, ..please remember, Conchita was in her early teens when Our Lady appear to her !


Here are two very good sites that fully covers the Garabandal story !


www.garabandalny.com... This is run by Joey Lomangino himself and a small staff !

www.garabandal.org... This is run my Maria Saraco in California !


Joey and Maria were both present in Garabandal When Conchita was given Mary’s Last Formal Message for the World through the intercession of St. Michael the Archangel on June 18, 1965 !

reply to post by pogliaghi


Conchita not Mari Loli is to announce eight days in advance of the Great Miracle... Mari loli is the only person who knew the year of the World Wide Warning but choose not to say it for whatever reason....
The Only thing I can say about Garabandal is: if St. Padre Pio and Blessed Mother Teresa saids it's True, that's good enough for me :-) motto of Garabandal: "All will Believe"!!!
BTW: Here's my Tribute song to Mari Loli:
www.youtube.com...

reply to post by FlyersFan


The Miracle will take place in the Springtime not the Warning !! Now for the first time I would like to talk about a date. In July 1961 and I believe that it was on the 4th that the Blessed Mother gave the girls a message for the world but told them, wait until Oct. 18, 1961 to read it to the People!
Heaven never does anything without great significant, meaning and purpose !! Why give a message on July 4, 1961 then say: wait until Oct. 18, 1961 to read it to the World.. I have research study and access this situation and made a determination that Oct. 18, is very viable date in the annals of Garabandal !!
This could very well be the date of the Warning, but that's only my opinion. Now the Year is another story for another time, that I have no ideal but I'm comfortable and very very sure that Oct. 18, is Important for Garabandal !!!! motto of Garabandal: "All will Believe" !!

My Tribute song to Mari Loli: www.youtube.com...

Originally posted by MCL1150
if St. Padre Pio and Blessed Mother Teresa saids it's True, that's good enough for me

Information we received directly from the Padre Pio Center in Barto, Pennsylvania said that Padre Pio NEVER said 'Garabandal is true' and even if either he or Mother Teresa did say it, they would never go against the Church - which has - THREE TIMES - declared it not to be of supernatural origins.

As a Catholic you must believe that humans - Padre Pio and Mother Teresa - make mistakes.
As a Catholic you must believe that the Church would not err in matters of faith.
The bishops speak for the church in this matter. They have full authority.
They have repeatedly said it is not worthy of belief and not supernatural.
If you are a 'good catholic' you must adhere to that ruling.

If you are a protestant - 'protesting' the Catholic church - then of course you can dismiss church teaching.
Are you Catholic or are you Protestant?
You can't say 'Catholic' unless you follow the church rules.
Catholicism is an all or nothing religion.

So you'd rather listen to a rumor that Padre Pio believed in Garabandal then listen to the fact that the so-called 'seers' of Grabandal have all admitted it was a hoax and that they lied? They have all confessed and retracted their story. Why would you believe in a rumor supposedly from Padre Pio that isn't even true, but you refuse to believe the documents that the 'seers' themselves signed that say this was a hoax?

reply to post by FlyersFan


Hello Flyers,

I think it is the "Great Miracle" which follows within a year of the "Great Warning"
that is to take place in the springtime.

The prophecies of Garabandal are close to happening according to other yet to be approved private revelation. Heaven is going to keep speaking, don't wait for Church approval. Events have to happen and the Church is very very slow in deciding true or not. Pray for discernment in reading the messages from Heaven.

Recall, wasn't Padre Pio pro-Garabandal?

There is a new visionary, who is hearing much about the Great Warning. I can
post the link. Prophecy makes explicit God's plan. Here's the latest message (Friday, September 23, 2011). There's a reference to the Great Miracle at the end of the message.

God bless,

_______

"No one person on earth can ever fathom the beauty and the miracle that awaits you all for it is indescribable in human terms."...


www.thewarningsecondcoming.com...

It bothers me "traditionalists" are so against the yet to be approved messages from Heaven.
To their loss. We are in the end times. Events prophesied have to happen so how
can the Church give a yes or no? And many of the messages from Heaven don't speak
highly of some of the hierarchy so it fits their decisions are going to be negative.

Garabandal may have been rejected by previous Bishops but I don't believe the current
Bishop is negative.

If it wasn't for Pope John Paul II and his interest in the messages of Divine Mercy given
to St. Faustina, remember, those messages were put down and cast aside.

FlyersFan,

The Great Warning is spoken of in Revelation 6: 12-17. I posted on another thread, messages from Heaven describing the Great Warning using the same words from Revelation 6:12-17.

We will because of our fallen nature wish to hide, the rocks to fall on us when we see
our lives in review during the Great Warning. It's is God's love, His purpose showing us, in hopes those far away, who have hardened hearts or who never knew of God will run
to Him.

I wish I could change your feelings about Garabandal. In the diary, St. Faustina
was given much revelation too about the Great Warning.

Prophecy makes God's Word explicit. In our NDE like experience in the Great
Warning. we will all see the sins of our lives but we will not feel the pain of our
"confessed" sins.

Make a good confession now, the Warning is soon. And...pray...every day.

Originally posted by colbe
FlyersFan,

The Great Warning is spoken of in Revelation 6: 12-17. I posted on another thread, messages from Heaven describing the Great Warning using the same words from Revelation 6:12-17.

We will because of our fallen nature wish to hide, the rocks to fall on us when we see
our lives in review during the Great Warning. It's is God's love, His purpose showing us, in hopes those far away, who have hardened hearts or who never knew of God will run
to Him.

I wish I could change your feelings about Garabandal. In the diary, St. Faustina
was given much revelation too about the Great Warning.

Prophecy makes God's Word explicit. In our NDE like experience in the Great
Warning. we will all see the sins of our lives but we will not feel the pain of our
"confessed" sins.

Make a good confession now, the Warning is soon. And...pray...every day.

A current Catholic messenger is hearing much about the Great Warning. I share the link:

www.thewarningsecondcoming.com...

The latest from www.thewarningsecondcoming.com...

Our Lord mentions Garabandal's Warning ~ and notice, He says people will
fall away after it happens so pray for the grace to persevere.

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I have now sent My prophets into the world

Sunday 25th September 2011 11.45

My dearly beloved daughter how to convince young people and those caught up in a busy meaningless lifestyle is the challenge I present to you.

Your job is to use every kind of modern communications tool available to convince a young modern society of the truth of My existence. I promise that all those young children who are given the truth, through such means, will feel My presence as soon as they read My messages. Spread and convert now, My daughter, in every corner of the world. This is the role for which you have been chosen. By spreading My word virally more people can be reached. Use the internet and the media. My followers involved will, in time, spread the truth everywhere.

This mission has only just begun. The foundations have been laid. Now according to the perfect timing of My Father the world will now pay attention to these divine messages.

I promised I would return. To pave the way I have now sent My prophets into the world including you, My daughter. Many are now responding to My call in every country in the world although their voices are small. In time, they too will be heard so they can proclaim My Glory to herald My return.

There is some time ahead before this Glorious return takes place. Until then prepare My children. The Warning will convert millions but it is only the beginning. The period after that will and must be spent nurturing souls to ensure that they are adequately prepared so they are fit to enter My Father’s New Paradise on Earth.

You have much to bear children but oh so much to look forward to when you are given access to this wonderful new era of peace, joy and happiness on earth. Perseverance is now called for. Courage and stamina will be given to those who invoke the Holy Spirit. You then, My army, will lift the souls of those who stray towards Me Don’t let one of these souls wander off lost into the wilderness. Pray for them. Show them love and understanding. Never tell them they are doomed or accuse them of sin because this is a grave offense in My eyes. Instead be firm but kind. Just tell them the truth. It will be up to them afterwards.

You cannot children win over all souls. You can only do your best.

Your Beloved Jesus

A more recent message to the same seer.

It blew me away because of it's love. It could only come from Christ. I would convert for these two questions alone!

_ _ _ _ _

I will never desert you children. That is why I am Coming.



Monday 3rd October 2011 12.30pm


My dearly beloved daughter I speak with you today of the need to understand what The Warning is and to dispel any confusion surrounding it. Many people are frightened and believe that this is the Day of Judgement. But it is not. This is to be a day of Glorious Divine Mercy which will envelope the entire world. My rays of mercy will be poured out over every single soul, man, woman and child. No one will be excluded. No one.

This is My return to save you once again. Didn’t you know that I was always going to be merciful? That I would never wait until the Final Judgement until I tried once more to save you all?

This is the purification I have spoken about. In the lead up to this great event the world has endured a purification for the last couple of years. I allowed mankind to suffer loss and gain humility through the global collapse of financial markets although I did not cause it. It was masterminded by global groups in places of power including the corridors of governments all over the world by their wicked greed. Yet because of this suffering millions of people will now be ready to hear My word and accept My mercy. They would not have been ready otherwise. There is nothing to fear if you love Me and live by the Commandments given to the world by Moses on the instructions of My Eternal Father.

Await My arrival with anticipation of love and joy and be thankful that that you are alive in the world today to receive My great gift of salvation. I will never desert you children. That is why I am coming. It is because I love you so much that I do this. It is because I wanted to prepare you and bring you close to My heart that I have given the world My messages through My beloved daughter.

These messages are going to continue beyond The Warning to give you as much guidance as possible into My teachings. My word, contained in these volumes, which I refer to as the Book of Truth, will create a new Christian Army who will defend My name until the new era of peace commences.

Be joyful now My children. Let me comfort you for this will be the first time you will come before Me face to face. It will be, for My followers, a moment of great love, peace and happiness. Rise now and be strong. For you are privileged and for this you must offer praise to God the Almighty Father who has allowed this to happen.


Your beloved Saviour Jesus Christ


www.thewarningsecondcoming.com...