You Either Keep Getting Your Booster Shots Or Admit You Were Wrong

a reply to: Xtrozero

I'm trying to keep it real...

And failing miserably...

You accused me of lying, so don't take it in a different direction and you still are hitting me for "numbers"...

Huh? I never accused you of lying! Quit throwing numbers out there then...they're your numbers not mine!

Case in point...more of your numbers (that by the way have zero to do with the vaccine/boosters):

So here is my point once again... 4000 people in America die to the 87mg aspirin per year.

I'd actually have to look that up but I'm sure it's incorrect!

But let's say

When in doubt...go hypothetical...good deflection!

4000 deaths climb to 40,000 deaths with the vast majority never needing aspirin in the first place

More numbers...these are made up even...fitting! Again though...completely unrelated and invalid as we are not talking about aspirin! Another nice deflection!

so EVERY drug kills and it is how we use it is what determines if they are bad or good.

Really? This is an interesting revelation...

I suppose in that example...EVERY cup of coffee kills...at some point aye? Again...we are not talking about every drug but specifically the vaccines and the boosters...I thought anyway...unless you'd like to side track of down some rabbit hole to oblivion!

You act like vaccines for some reason stay in you your whole life or something like that.

Hmmm...I act like that huh? I wonder how they work for your whole life then (that's sarcasm...I know how they work)! That is if they are truly a vaccination...then I know how they work...this stuff we (at least I am talking about it) are talking about...does god only knows what!

a reply to: v1rtu0s0

I think he was making a bad joke about onanism.

originally posted by: Islandparty
a reply to: mysterioustranger

69, runnin and jumpin? send a vid, I'd like to see it.

Actually, it’s not that unusual. I’m 66 and still running and jumping and I don’t intend to stop on my own accord. IMO, it’s all a matter of attitude and what you give your attention to. All of it. Every bit of it. This ‘turn 65 and congratulations, you get to become a vegetable on your sofa’ is ludicrous.

originally posted by: jerryznv

Huh? I never accused you of lying! Quit throwing numbers out there then...they're your numbers not mine!

You accused me of them all being false. And when I showed you they are not you defect in a different direction.

When in doubt...go hypothetical...good deflection!

Boy you are bad... I think we are done... The 4000k is an understatement, but back when I looked it up it was for the 87mg to thin blood and not the normal aspirin that is about 20,000 deaths, UK is 3000 alone for aspirin....

My point is not everyone needs the vaccine and if you force that on everyone then just the normal ill effects will hit people that didn't need it in the first place. Same with aspirin or any other drug... geez.. This got old real quick.

See ya.

Bam! Got shingles, worst ever both mouth and face and ear. Three weeks so far of this crap and I am still in the worst debilitating neuralgia pain you can imagine. I wonder if this covid shot destroyed my immune system. I had 2 shots and 2 boosters.

originally posted by: Roedeer

originally posted by: Islandparty
a reply to: mysterioustranger

69, runnin and jumpin? send a vid, I'd like to see it.

Actually, it’s not that unusual. I’m 66 and still running and jumping and I don’t intend to stop on my own accord. IMO, it’s all a matter of attitude and what you give your attention to. All of it. Every bit of it. This ‘turn 65 and congratulations, you get to become a vegetable on your sofa’ is ludicrous.

A very active hexagenarian here who manages to go for long mountain bike rides 4 times a week, long bushwalks over some rough country without a problem. Do lots of physical work for older people (free, because I enjoy it).

Only health problem I have is neuropathy from the "vaccine", including occasional bouts of tremors. Started a few days after second dose and was debilitating for some months, now more of a nuisance.

Interestingly never got covid in the nearly 18 months pre inoculation, got it twice in the 6 months after.

Some "vaccine" that.

originally posted by: Roedeer

originally posted by: Islandparty
a reply to: mysterioustranger

69, runnin and jumpin? send a vid, I'd like to see it.

Actually, it’s not that unusual. I’m 66 and still running and jumping and I don’t intend to stop on my own accord. IMO, it’s all a matter of attitude and what you give your attention to. All of it. Every bit of it. This ‘turn 65 and congratulations, you get to become a vegetable on your sofa’ is ludicrous.

Turned 60 this last week and spent the weekend pounding powder on the slopes.

Those of us fortunate enough need to keep using it before we lose it!

The OPs point in this thread seems to be that those hard core pro vaccine folks need to either admit they were mistaken or continue with the medication regime to protect themselves by staying up to date with their boosters.

Seems fair.

originally posted by: sean
Bam! Got shingles, worst ever both mouth and face and ear. Three weeks so far of this crap and I am still in the worst debilitating neuralgia pain you can imagine. I wonder if this covid shot destroyed my immune system. I had 2 shots and 2 boosters.

Did you get the shingles vaccine? I did...

a reply to: Xtrozero

Boy you are bad... I think we are done... The 4000k is an understatement, but back when I looked it up it was for the 87mg to thin blood and not the normal aspirin that is about 20,000 deaths, UK is 3000 alone for aspirin....

I'm shocked...what you originally posted was BS then? Now it's really this instead? Okay...I'll just take your word for it I guess...no reason to look it up! I really still would rather stay on topic and discuss the Covid vaccines and boosters...I'm really not to interested in the aspirin theory you're developing!

My point is not everyone needs the vaccine and if you force that on everyone

Well...that is exactly what they did...force it on everyone...now we're back on topic!

I showed you they are not

Now now...you didn't show me anything...zero links not even a decent quote...you gave me nada! Oh shoot...are you talking about the yellow vaccine sheets you posted? I'm not even sure they're yours...doesn't matter...like I said...your personal experiences are absolutely irrelevant!

See ya.

Yes you will...cause I'm stuck like stink on BS...I like being around when it gets called out (or calling it out, whichever)!

a reply to: sean

Shingles suck. Haven’t had them and never want to! It sounds nasty.

Just a personal observation, but many in my circle of family, friends, and coworkers seem to be voicing concerns about their new found poor health and it’s relation to the vaccine without being prompted or delving into any of the vaccine dangers.

They are coming to this conclusion entirely from their own experience with these shots.

originally posted by: chr0naut
The vaccines and the virus trigger about the same immune response.

Being boosted and having had COVID should normally give you a strong immune response.

If you have been fully vaccinated and boosted, and then have also caught and recovered from COVID, you probably can delay getting boosted again for three to six months.

The thing is that people's immune response isn't exactly the same as everyone else's. Some people's immune systems take a lot of exposure to get a strong response, and some others get a good response very quickly.

Definitely, people who have had surgery and immune supressive drugs would need to be boosted far more frequently than normal, to have anything like normal levels of immune response.

The same immune response? How many antigenic sites the virus has? Is it the same when you make a response against the entire virus and against the spike protein of the virus.

Do you realise which process is superior?

When you have been infected then you don't need to get vaccinated. These are 'new principles' in immunology sponsored by Pfizer, Moderna, and that rest of the gang.

originally posted by: sean
Bam! Got shingles, worst ever both mouth and face and ear. Three weeks so far of this crap and I am still in the worst debilitating neuralgia pain you can imagine. I wonder if this covid shot destroyed my immune system. I had 2 shots and 2 boosters.

I got shingles November 2020, a TERRIBLE case! Did my body just know I was going to get the vaccine a few months later? I was 40 at the time.

originally posted by: GopiGrl
a reply to: vonclod

Hate to say it, but where was your thinking cap. Employers "requesting" shots? Simply inappropriate.

They were close friends, we built a business, then covid destroyed it..got any other criticisms? you seem more upset about it than me, because I'm not, I just wouldn't do it again.

Cheers

a reply to: v1rtu0s0

I don't talk to all the people on my route but the older folks usually like to gossip so I get a bit. One man 67 got the vaccine then got covid a month later. He was predicted to die on a vent. His family made them take it out against the advice of the doctor. Got better within a week.

A 48 year old woman 4 jabs. Her family found her dead on the floor 4 days after she passed. They called it old age. Literally doctor said old age at 48......

One of my favorite people to talk to he got the jab and second shot. His cancer is back after 5 years with no signs.

I'd say if you have a big enough sample size. 630 deliveries on my route. You start to hear the I'll effects of the whole plandemic. Not just vaccines. But all of it.

Luckily we were exempt from the vax. Even if we weren't I was never going to get it.

originally posted by: vonclod
They were close friends, we built a business, then covid destroyed it..got any other criticisms? you seem more upset about it than me, because I'm not, I just wouldn't do it again.

Cheers

I owned 2 businesses before covid, now I work at Walmart. I still know I did the right things.

I was never "f0rCeD" to take any shots, did it all on my own. Just had my annual physical, with blood work, and other than high blood pressure that I've had since my late 20's, I'm fine.

Got covid in July last year, I'm fine. Felt like complete ass for 3 days, back to work.

I've been around countless friends, coworkers, and family who got the brutal flus this year, with my supposed destroyed immune system, and I haven't had so much as a sniffle.

At this point they're taking the goal posts off of the field and making up a new game.

a reply to: LordAhriman

It could be that you are one of the fortunate ones. Which is good and I’m happy for you.

The argument that because you are fine and lots of people you know are fine so the vaccines must be safe doesn’t hold up if this is taken into consideration.

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov...

We suggest taking the quality of individual vaccine vials into account in an adverse reaction investigation, i.e., a serious adverse reaction, anaphylaxis or other types, might be caused by one defective vial out of many good-quality vials. An argument for this possibility is that vaccine adverse reactions are not always reproducible on re-exposure [3], which hints at an element of chance. For example, a recent retrospective study found that 159 patients who had immediate reactions to the first dose of mRNA COVID-19 vaccines, including 19 individuals with anaphylaxis after the first-dose, tolerated the second dose [4]. The reason for this is unclear at this time. It is not inconceivable that the first and second doses may respectively involve vials of different quality, and therefore elicit different responses from a person.

I’ve mentioned in another thread that I thought that the magnetic arm thing was bogus and was used to discredit the “anti vax” arguments until I saw it myself.

After reading the above paper I found it interesting that I have only seen two people with this condition, both got the vaccine on the same day, from the same centre on a First Nations reserve.

originally posted by: chr0naut

There are numerous far more deadly causes of death (and probably preventable, too, if there was sufficient political will to stop these deaths) that are tolerated in the US.

How many die in traffic accidents?
How many die from misuse of firearms?
How many die from crime?
How many die from poisonings and overdoses?
How many die from simply taking stupid risks?
How many die from cancers caused by exposure to environmental carcinogens (because alternative chemicals are too expensive).

So if more people die in traffic accidents than from falling from a building, is it then safer to fall from a building?

originally posted by: Asmodeus3

When you have been infected then you don't need to get vaccinated. These are 'new principles' in immunology sponsored by Pfizer, Moderna, and that rest of the gang.

What happens when you are infected and die...lol Isn't that the purpose of any vaccine to not roll the dice to see if you actually live though it so you can then have superior immunization?

Here is Yellow Fever, get the vaccine or go for natural immunity...

Severe symptoms include high fever, yellow skin or eyes (jaundice), bleeding, shock, and organ failure.
Among those who develop severe disease, 30-60% die.
Once you have been infected, you are likely protected from future infections.

originally posted by: McGinty

So if more people die in traffic accidents than from falling from a building, is it then safer to fall from a building?

That is why they do ratios and not totals. X out of 100,000 or X out of a million are typical. We can apply this to car accidents and falling too for us to see which one is worst.