What is the infection fatality rate (IFR) of Covid 19 now?

From the U.K. Office of National Statistics (ONS):
www.ons.gov.uk... ber2022

For the week ending 9th December 2022:
"In England, the estimated number of people testing positive for COVID-19 was 1,197,200 (95% credible interval: 1,135,000 to 1,263,900), equating to 2.20% of the population (an increase from 2.01% in the previous week), or around 1 in 45 people."

1 in 45 people have apparently got a 'deadly virus', that was so 'deadly' that our government had to shut down our entire country, and thus our entire economy, the police spent their time chasing people down who had dared to go for a drive into the middle of nowhere in the U.K. for a walk, miles from anybody else, and charge them with a 'crime', tens of thousands (if not more) of small businesses were forced to close (i.e. those people who worked their asses off for years, often decades, to set up and keep running their own businesses, lost EVERYTHING they had worked for, for absolutely no reason), and so on.

1 in 45 people. And yet people aren't dropping dead like flies from a RESPIRATORY INFECTION. I have to put that in capital letters, because some fools will say 'But people are dying'. Yes - but dying from WHAT? What, exactly, did all those people who allegedly died 'from Covid', 'with Covid', or 'a death linked to Covid', die from? Did they die from symptoms caused by a RESPIRATORY INFECTION, or not? If not, then it wasn't a 'Covid' death, and isn't a 'Covid' death. So where are all the people dying, since 1 in 45 people have a 'deadly' virus?

And why doesn't the media EVER mention the Infection Fatality Rate any more? They sure were happy to terrorise us all with a ridiculously high figure when the scamdemic first started...

A new study shows the IFR for 50-65 year olds is actually 0.03% - 0.07% which is the same as the flu.

The virus was created for the vaccine. Not the other way around.

Just want to remind everyone that peer reviewed science has now found that “at a global level, PRE-VACCINATION IFR may have been as low as 0.03% and 0.07% for 0–59 and 0–69 year old people, respectively.” This was never worse than the flu. We were lied to. sciencedirect.com...

SOURCE

a reply to: JohnThomas2

And why doesn't the media EVER mention the Infection Fatality Rate any more?

Because COVID is yesterdays news (until the next development) and there are bigger stories to highlight , like the war in Ukraine and our floundering and corrupt government.

China on the other hand are reporting 1,300 deaths in a week according to the Times.

a reply to: JohnThomas2

We know that cases and deaths were greatly overcounted. Some estimates were by up to 80% higher than reality.

I doubt we'll ever really know, but I wouldn't be surprised if it was at least half of the official mark.

a reply to: JohnThomas2

Yep, now that their fake data has the result of people getting the Covax, en masse, they don't need to make sh#t up anymore.

Plus, they don't want to draw attention to the ACTUAL data that proves them wrong.

Job done.

We're not dealing with the same virus now that we were dealing with when all of the restrictions were put into place. Some countries saw 10% or higher mortality rates with the OG virus, once hospitals were overloaded. The virus empress into something much less deadly, as viruses do, and we gained some immunity.

originally posted by: watchitburn
a reply to: JohnThomas2

We know that cases and deaths were greatly overcounted. Some estimates were by up to 80% higher than reality.

I doubt we'll ever really know, but I wouldn't be surprised if it was at least half of the official mark.

We do know actually. The deaths FROM a virus that the inaccurate PCR test which could mistake the flu as a positive test is 6% of what their official number records. The flu disapeared in 2020, and the 6% represents the approximate number of people the flu kills each year.

a reply to: gortex

China on the other hand are reporting 1,300 deaths in a week according to the Times.

The Times has not reported 1,300 a week..... it is reporting 13,000 deaths a week.

The financial times says...... there had been a total of 59,938 deaths related to Covid-19 infections at Chinese hospitals in the last month.

originally posted by: LordAhriman
We're not dealing with the same virus now that we were dealing with when all of the restrictions were put into place. Some countries saw 10% or higher mortality rates with the OG virus, once hospitals were overloaded. The virus empress into something much less deadly, as viruses do, and we gained some immunity.

Yep, 10% infection fatality rate. Actually it was 120% fatality rate in some countries. True story.

a reply to: JohnThomas2

Firstly, the IFR is wildly different, depending upon who estimates it. A far better statistic is the case fatality ratio (CFR) which compares fatalities to confirmed cases of the virus. There is no guesswork there.

And secondly, the virus now is a different strain than the Alpha strain that triggered the initial responses, and we now have a handful of vaccines and therapeutics we didn't have previously.

The vast majority of those that die from COVID in first world countries die in hospital under medical care, and they have a respiratory disease symptomatic profile that includes ARDS followed by a cytokine storm that causes massive organ failures.

There are some who die of other diseases, exacerbated by COVID, but often disease conditions are comorbidities with each other. Pre-COVID, a relative of mine had cancer but died of an infection of viral meningitis that she caught while hospitalized. It doesn't mean she didn't have terminal cancer just because there was a comorbidity. If she had had only the one disease condition, she may have survived, or she may have died, but together, the diseases clearly caused her death.

originally posted by: v1rtu0s0
A new study shows the IFR for 50-65 year olds is actually 0.03% - 0.07% which is the same as the flu.

The virus was created for the vaccine. Not the other way around.

Just want to remind everyone that peer reviewed science has now found that “at a global level, PRE-VACCINATION IFR may have been as low as 0.03% and 0.07% for 0–59 and 0–69 year old people, respectively.” This was never worse than the flu. We were lied to. sciencedirect.com...

SOURCE

So, the virus was created to promote a vaccine that didn't exist until nearly two years after patient zero?

originally posted by: watchitburn
a reply to: JohnThomas2

We know that cases and deaths were greatly overcounted. Some estimates were by up to 80% higher than reality.

I doubt we'll ever really know, but I wouldn't be surprised if it was at least half of the official mark.

Cases were most often confirmed not just from symptoms, but by testing by PCR, which looked for the presence of the viral sequence (and also allowed the strain of the infection to be determined), and also by testing for the presence of antigens against the virus.

And fatalities in patients showing symptoms and also testing positive, is pretty damn obvious.

80% higher? 50% higher? What nonsense!

originally posted by: gortex
a reply to: JohnThomas2

And why doesn't the media EVER mention the Infection Fatality Rate any more?

Because COVID is yesterdays news (until the next development) and there are bigger stories to highlight , like the war in Ukraine and our floundering and corrupt government.

China on the other hand are reporting 1,300 deaths in a week according to the Times.

Interesting fact: Most Chinese choose NOT to be organ donors, yet since the lockdowns China has become a bigger player in the organ donor market. They also have had 1 million young people 'mysteriously vanish' each year for the last two years.

The US is one of the biggest exporters of donated blood.

It appears all world economies have switched their export priorities and now the greatest fortunes to be made is in the medical field.

It was never about a pandemic, or human health; it was and is about money and the power it buys.

originally posted by: v1rtu0s0

originally posted by: watchitburn
a reply to: JohnThomas2

We know that cases and deaths were greatly overcounted. Some estimates were by up to 80% higher than reality.

I doubt we'll ever really know, but I wouldn't be surprised if it was at least half of the official mark.

We do know actually. The deaths FROM a virus that the inaccurate PCR test which could mistake the flu as a positive test is 6% of what their official number records. The flu disapeared in 2020, and the 6% represents the approximate number of people the flu kills each year.

PCR testing differentiates between the flu and COVID and is the most accurate test we have for the presence of the genomic sequence. It is highly accurate, with few false positives or false negatives. Repeating the test at different times removes that uncertainty, but usually PVR testing is post-symptomatic.

In Febuary 2020, the CDC changed the preferred fast PCR test to one that could test for both the flu and for COVID, but the test did not confuse the results. It still differentiated between them.

a reply to: Itisnowagain

Ahhh , never was any good at maths.


Begs the question if China created and released COVID how come it effects Chinese and South Asians worse than Westerners.

The infection fatality rate was estimated long before the vaccines became available by one of the top epidemiologists in the world and his team at Stanford, Dr John Ioannidis.

The infection fatally rate was about 0.15%

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov...

Conclusions:

All systematic evaluations of seroprevalence data converge that SARS-CoV-2 infection is widely spread globally. Acknowledging residual uncertainties, the available evidence suggests average global IFR of ~0.15% and ~1.5-2.0 billion infections by February 2021 with substantial differences in IFR and in infection spread across continents, countries and locations.

Eventhough the IFR could be very different from country to country the claims it was 10% or more are just absurd.

Given the immunity we now have the IFR should be much lower.

a reply to: gortex

Begs the question if China created and released COVID how come it effects Chinese and South Asians worse than Westerners.

Who says it does?

And who said that China created and released the virus??

a reply to: chr0naut


You allways spread that false narrative here about PCR test being accurate , like about 3 years now.


Grow up

a reply to: chr0naut

Funny thing about PCR, it surely can detect viral RNA. What it cannot do is tell you if there is active disease process. Enter "asymptomatic" COVID or "my mango just got COVID" syndrome.