Cold turkey alcohol withdrawal cured my addiction, am I a freak of nature?

a reply to: jerryznv
My guy who is a heroin addict wants to know what you found inspirational.

Are you inspired?

Genuine question.

I you wanna be so loud then back it up.

originally posted by: collie
a reply to: jerryznv
My guy who is a heroin addict wants to know what you found inspirational.

Are you inspired?

Sure...I found it inspiring that addiction is alive and strong...and it's waiting patiently for real addicts and alcoholics to just make a small mistake!

Meanwhile...recovery is working for people all around the world...and it's helping people beat addiction no matter how alive and strong it is!

It's either one way or the other...there is no in the middle for a true addict or alcoholic!

That is inspiring!

I you wanna be so loud then back it up.

As to your edit...I don't want to be loud...and I don't know what you'd like me to back up...please explain that!

I really appreciate all the well thought out responses and questions from everyone. Because I am anonymous on here I can talk about AA and Alcoholism. I have been a member of AA since 1998 but didn’t get sober until 2013.

The question about environment I want to address. So I lived in 8 different cities across 5 states over the course of the worst 10 last years of my drinking. Every time I would get out of another Rehab or Detox or psych ward I would have the best intentions about getting a sponsor and working the 12 steps. It didn’t matter what state or city I was in I would start drinking again. It was like my brain would completely black out the 28 days I just spent in rehab. Or if you asked me if I knew a reason why I started drinking again I would lie or not really know why. Most of the time I had no idea why I started. The problem was I just was going to meetings and not doing anything else. Anyone can go to a meeting. That’s NOT working the PROGRAM OF RECOVERY IN THE 12 steps. It’s my experience if you just go to meetings and do nothing else you will not succeed since you aren’t working the program. The early pioneers of AA only had one meeting a week so this nonsense of 90 meetings in 90 days is going to cure u is BS. It’s no wonder people fail they go to meetings and no one at the meetings talks to then afterwards about how to really get sober.


Treatment centers push 90 meetings in 90 days(which ironically is not in the big book Of AA as a suggestion to get sober since Bill Wilson and Dr. Bob went to one meeting a week in 1939 but that’s another topic)

The reason I bring this up is it didn’t matter how many meetings I went too or what city I was in I couldn’t stop drinking because LACK OF POWER. I can go to 10000 meetings but if I didn’t do the Program of Recovery in the 12 steps I will never have the obsession lifted. By the way in the big book it say clearly in the Preface or one of the forwards that AA is a spiritual program not a religious one.
The steps are designed to create a connection with a higher power of Your understanding so then your problem will be solved.

It’s EGO deflation. The steps are there to decimate your EGO and selfishness for narcissistic people like alcoholics.
Since selfishness and fear and resentment is the root problem I have a spiritual sickness that only God can relieve.

I have achieved so many things in my life but this one thing my will power is non existent. Believe I tried for 15 years to stop drinking.

Non-alcoholics have a hard time understanding this concept and I GET IT. I respect your opinion.

Let me maybe explain it a different way:
Alcoholic and Nonalcoholic brains and bodies react to alcohol differently. This is 100% confirmed science.

An alcoholic looks at a non-alcoholic who finishes half a glass of wine or one glass of wine and has no more for that night and thinks to himself/herself “how can they do that? That’s impossible”

A non-alcoholic looks at an alcoholic who finishes a 12 pack of beer at 1130pm then runs to the gas station to buy more beer before they stop selling at midnight and asks himself/herself “ how can they do that? That’s is so stupid. I can quit anytime I want. Why can’t they?”


A great book I suggest you read if you want to know the science behind alcohol as a disease is

“ Beyond the Influence: Understanding and Defeating Alcoholism” by Katherine Ketcham

Beyond the Influence explains that alcoholism is a disease of the body, not a weakness of character. Drawing on the latest scientific studies, the authors present new research on the central role of genetics and neurotransmitters in addiction.

And finallly the meetings I choose to go to on a weekly basis aren’t depressing or glum or people telling sad tales of drinking or drug use. I got to meetings that talk about recovery, hope, God, Grace, love and tolerance. I think it’s rather amusing seeing how TV and the movies portray AA as a bunch of sad depressed people in a circle of chairs. I don’t go to those meetings. I laugh my ass off at my meetings because I choose to surround myself with sober happy people who are of service to others.

Ok TEd talk over feel feee ti ask me questions or if you need help Dm me. I would be happy to share my experience, strength and hope with anyone on here.

a reply to: Brassmonkey

Very well written...very well said!

Thank you!

Glum lot we are not...there is something to be said in "The Promises"!

I would be happy to share my experience, strength and hope with anyone on here.

This is how it's done...we only keep what we have by giving it away!

originally posted by: jerryznv
a reply to: Brassmonkey

Very well written...very well said!

Thank you!

Glum lot we are not...there is something to be said in "The Promises"!

I would be happy to share my experience, strength and hope with anyone on here.

This is how it's done...we only keep what we have by giving it away!

My main job now is to be of maximum service to God and my fellows. Thank you sir for the kind words. I should be dead 20 times over but I am alive and sober by the grace of God. We are not a glum lot!! One of my fav quotes!! One day at a time brother

a reply to: Brassmonkey
Thanks for sharing, just kiddin.

Suppose it's like many things, if ya don't live it it's very hard to get.

I always used and drank like a demon when my wife was away as well. My old favourite excuse.
I can relate heavily on that point.

I even lied to myself about living the good life while hanging with addicts. In retrospect none of it was nice or good I was my own worst enemy and I surrounded myself with people that would only reinforce my delusion.

It’s just a phase we are going through! My one friend would say…that was about 10 years ago now I’ve been sober for almost 4 years and he is exactly where I left him. I could go walk to where he stays right now and find him in the same exact spot tin the same dirty unfurnished room, playing video games, getting high and drinking and doing nothing “chilling”

I had a loving wife and thankfully I still have her, but years ago I certainly didn’t deserve her.

Use a sick dog as an excuse, then get a new one and use that as excuse too. Use your wife being away as an excuse, use your friends as an excuse, use someones birthday as an excuse use someone’s funeral as a excuse. It’s how it works.

I just need this because my dogs sick. I just need this because i am hung over, I just need this because I exhausted, I just need this because i just got up. I just need this to feel normal.

Best wishes collie honestly I mean it. I hope you can find solace and true happiness someday. I don’t think your going to find it where your looking at the moment tho.

a reply to: collie

a reply to: Brassmonkey

far as i know there will be few that understand that moniker.

originally posted by: Brassmonkey

originally posted by: jerryznv
a reply to: Brassmonkey

Very well written...very well said!

Thank you!

Glum lot we are not...there is something to be said in "The Promises"!

I would be happy to share my experience, strength and hope with anyone on here.

This is how it's done...we only keep what we have by giving it away!

My main job now is to be of maximum service to God and my fellows. Thank you sir for the kind words. I should be dead 20 times over but I am alive and sober by the grace of God. We are not a glum lot!! One of my fav quotes!! One day at a time brother

Yes...me too...at least twenty times over! I too am here by the grace of God!

A twenty year heroin addiction, beaten 16 years now, with the help of a program that taught me the beauty of one day at a time. I hope each day to be of service somehow, somewhere. I still follow Bill W. (although addicts have their own thing these days) as those suggestions made sense to me!

Yes one day at a time brother! Thank you again...it was refreshing to hear another voice from what works!

originally posted by: collie
a reply to: Brassmonkey

far as i know there will be few that understand that moniker.

Hey I respect you opinion and value you as a human being. Love and Tolerance is what I try to live by. I am def not perfect and fail all the time though. I wish you all the success and happiness in the world.

a reply to: Athetos
Feel like I could have wrote that to myself

If I can thread drift for a moment.

Even though we talkin about a tough subject. All the madness in the world. Nice to see good guys out there.

Will spend days pouring over every word here.

Thank you gentlemen.

edit here, not you jerry, go home.

originally posted by: collie
If I can thread drift for a moment.

Even though we talkin about a tough subject. All the madness in the world. Nice to see good guys out there.

Will spend days pouring over every word here.

Thank you gentlemen.

edit here, not you jerry, go home.

Aww...that hurts!

I was trying to be nice and I am home...I have been home!

If you want some "nice guys" to coddle you...you need not look here any further! This is a website full of anonymous users...you can't tell me that you seriously came here for "nice guys"! Maybe you did...that'd be interesting!

A tough subject...tell us how tough...how tough a subject is it for you? I have no qualms about it at all...as a matter of fact...it's my favorite subject!

a reply to: Brassmonkey
you gotta know its cockney slang right?

a reply to: jerryznv
Not sure if you are just the reason I drink.

You might be responsible for terrorism too.

I'd rather blow myself up than sit with ya.




yer missus is the same, needs to be blown up aswell.

originally posted by: collie
a reply to: jerryznv
Not sure if you are just the reason I drink.

You might be responsible for terrorism too.

I wish you all the best...I hope you find some relief no matter where it comes from!

Maybe someday these words will all have different meaning to you! Maybe not!

Either way...I wish you well!

originally posted by: collie
a reply to: Brassmonkey
you gotta know its cockney slang right?

I don’t know what cockney slang is but it’s all good brother.

a reply to: jerryznv

you too pal.

a reply to: Brassmonkey
thats crazy, where you get the name brassmonkey from?

a reply to: jerryznv
Sorry for thinkin you dont get me.

Lots of stuff goin on, I will try to be a better guy.