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originally posted by: Asmodeus3

1 in 10,000 and 10 in 100,000 is one and the same ratio. Are you confusing basic calculations?

What numbers are wrong?!?!

Yes, they are the same, so why is 1 per 10,000 bad if it is somewhat normal with other drugs we been using for a very long time? Maybe reread my post again...

You probably haven't seen the peer-reviewed publications yet that described the serious adverse reactions to the mRNA Covid vaccines. It's 1 serious adverse reaction to every 800 vaccinees.

Then we need to determine what is a serious adverse reaction.

You are unable to do the maths as it looks like.

My math is fine, you are unable to comprehend a simple statement, I guess.

What you have called doom porn is real statistics and not products of someone's imagination. The Swine Flu vaccine was withdrawn for 1 in 100,000 and the Rotavirus vaccine was withdrawn for 1 in 10,000

The 1 in 800 is too high for any vaccine. The withdrawn must come as a result of this simple statistic.

1 per 100,000 is too high... lol I guess that rules out every drug known to man. You are throwing numbers around without a clue to what they mean, maybe they just look cool.


Go research why the Swine Flu vaccine was halted... It had nothing to do with 1 per 100,000. The rollout was halted because of a number of reports of Guillain-Barré syndrome, and the fact the swine flu cases never reached pandemic levels they did not need to roll it out anymore, but they were concern that GBS might had been very high, but later determine it was extremely low at 1 per 100,000, so 1 per 100,00 is actually good.

Geez you get things so spun around...

originally posted by: Xtrozero

originally posted by: Asmodeus3

1 in 10,000 and 10 in 100,000 is one and the same ratio. Are you confusing basic calculations?

What numbers are wrong?!?!

Yes, they are the same, so why is 1 per 10,000 bad if it is somewhat normal with other drugs we been using for a very long time? Maybe reread my post again...

You probably haven't seen the peer-reviewed publications yet that described the serious adverse reactions to the mRNA Covid vaccines. It's 1 serious adverse reaction to every 800 vaccinees.

Then we need to determine what is a serious adverse reaction.

You are unable to do the maths as it looks like.

My math is fine, you are unable to comprehend a simple statement, I guess.

What you have called doom porn is real statistics and not products of someone's imagination. The Swine Flu vaccine was withdrawn for 1 in 100,000 and the Rotavirus vaccine was withdrawn for 1 in 10,000

The 1 in 800 is too high for any vaccine. The withdrawn must come as a result of this simple statistic.

1 per 100,000 is too high... lol I guess that rules out every drug known to man. You are throwing numbers around without a clue to what they mean, maybe they just look cool.


Go research why the Swine Flu vaccine was halted... It had nothing to do with 1 per 100,000. The rollout was halted because of a number of reports of Guillain-Barré syndrome, and the fact the swine flu cases never reached pandemic levels they did not need to roll it out anymore, but they were concern that GBS might had been very high, but later determine it was extremely low at 1 per 100,000, so 1 per 100,00 is actually good.

Geez you get things so spun around...

I think your statements are confused as always and you are now engaging in pure vaccine apologetics and denialism of reality. And you are still defending the pharmaceuticals. It's a pattern that it is followed by some members here.

I am not quite sure if you can do the maths but I have another thread called the Mathematics of adverse events of special interest following mRNA Covid-19 vaccination. It looks like other vaccine apologists couldn't do the maths either to get the 1 serious adverse reaction per 800 vaccinees...

We all know why the swine flu vaccine and rotavirus vaccine were withdrawn. For having serious adverse reactions. It's about time the mRNA vaccines are withdrawn as the rate of serious adverse reactions is massive. The Astrazeneca vaccine has already been withdrawn from the UK, the country that has created it, and most other countries that were using it. If you see my threads you will understand the reason. No need for vaccine apologetics please.

Are you not yet sure what a serious adverse reaction is? Or you are trying to challenge the meaning of the phrase?

a reply to: Xtrozero

Not to divert from the conversation as it has happened due to the inability and unwillingness from you to accept that these vaccines are not safe and effective, but what is the cause of the large number of excess non Covid deaths? It can't be climate change or the republicans in the US.

originally posted by: Asmodeus3

I think your statements are confused as always and you are now engaging in pure vaccine apologetics and denialism of reality. And you are still defending the pharmaceuticals. It's a pattern that it is followed by some members here.
I am not quite sure if you can do the maths but....

Always attacking it seems...

For having serious adverse reactions. It's about time the mRNA vaccines are withdrawn as the rate of serious adverse reactions is massive. Are you not yet sure what a serious adverse reaction is? Or you are trying to challenge the meaning of the phrase?

You generalize everything and I explain in more detail that you never address and just go back to your generalization. You said there is 1 in 800 serious adverse reactions, and I asked you to list them and how much of each. Define what you might be talking about here such as what is considered a serious adverse reaction. I am asking this because you are suggesting there are over 16 million people listed somewhere with serious reactions.

originally posted by: Xtrozero

originally posted by: Asmodeus3

I think your statements are confused as always and you are now engaging in pure vaccine apologetics and denialism of reality. And you are still defending the pharmaceuticals. It's a pattern that it is followed by some members here.
I am not quite sure if you can do the maths but....

Always attacking it seems...

For having serious adverse reactions. It's about time the mRNA vaccines are withdrawn as the rate of serious adverse reactions is massive. Are you not yet sure what a serious adverse reaction is? Or you are trying to challenge the meaning of the phrase?

You generalize everything and I explain in more detail that you never address and just go back to your generalization. You said there is 1 in 800 serious adverse reactions, and I asked you to list them and how much of each. Define what you might be talking about here such as what is considered a serious adverse reaction. I am asking this because you are suggesting there are over 16 million people listed somewhere with serious reactions.

You need to get updated with the literature.
Have a look in the numerous threads and the various publications that verify this number.
1 in 800 is scandalous and there should be an immediate discussion about the role of there vaccines. There are calls for the withdrawl of them just as it happened with other vaccines in the past.

Multiply the number who have received the mRNA vaccines by 0.00125 and you will how many serious adverse reactions are expected in the short term. This number without taking into account the medium and long term effects.

The serious adverse reactions for the mRNA vaccines are listed online and in numerous threads here. Just a quick search and you will see what we have discussed several times.

No need for vaccine apology and denialism of reality.

As I said earlier

I think your statements are confused as always and you are now engaging in pure vaccine apologetics and denialism of reality. And you are still defending the pharmaceuticals. It's a pattern that it is followed by some members here.

You seem to want to divert the conversation. From the serious adverse reactions to 'what' is a serious adverse reaction. From 1 in10,000 to 1 in 800 and so on. Have you noticed the pattern? It's called vaccine apology!

originally posted by: tanstaafl

originally posted by: chr0naut
a reply to: M5xaz
No, those who, in the light of all the deaths from this disease, continue to suggest that the disease itself is benign, advise people to avoid the vaccines (several different ones)

Yes - but none of which have been proven by normal safety testing standards to be safe OR effetive - although it is coming to light that the internal testing that they DID do showed potential massive HARM).

These harms have not been reflected in the numbers of serious adverse reactions to the vaccines, which are small compared to the number of doses delivered.

advise others to not wear masks (and to ridicule the mere concept of doing so),

Because even the MSM admits now that all of the garbage 'science' they were relying on to try to claim they were safe or effective has now not only been totally debunked, but has shown that they can be very harmful.?

Really? Then why do surgeons and nurses wear masks? Why aren't they harmed?

to advise against social distancing, or any move that has been tried to reduce the spread of the pandemic.

Like destroying our collective businesses and even very lives over a not very dangerous virus (for the vast majority) and more importantly was always destined to become endemic?

Bankruptcy numbers in 2018 were the same as in 2020 and have fallen significantly since:

United States Bankruptcies - Trading Economics (Select the 10 year period to show current bankruptcies in context).

The virus, like the similar coronaviruses SARS and MERS was NOT always likely to become endemic. As I have frequently pointed out, in New Zealand, two separate outbreaks were totally stopped. That shows that it was stoppable. The problem was those who did little or nothing to stop it spreading, and therefore incubated, and spread it.

Those people probably should be held liable for the outcomes we are seeing.

Royflmao! The Darkside is strong in this one...

People are still dying from COVID in nearly every country. In China, the government there has now given up hope and is under pressure from the populace.

Pure and simple, people who advise others to avoid lifesaving medicines and safety precautions are evil.

But hanging people from lamp posts is purely evil and criminal,

In some cases it would be, but in this case? Not even close. Mass murderers deserve to die in the worst and most public way possible.

So, you are in favor of lynchings, and based entirely on the untrue doom porn you believe? That's what evil mobs do. It isn't what law abiding citizens do.

Tell me, since you and I are survivors, are you experiencing all that extra cash and property that is now available because of the dead? Is anyone? Surely you'd think if depopulation motivates all your alleged villains, then as a survivor, you'd also be in a good position.

originally posted by: chr0naut

originally posted by: tanstaafl

originally posted by: chr0naut
a reply to: M5xaz
No, those who, in the light of all the deaths from this disease, continue to suggest that the disease itself is benign, advise people to avoid the vaccines (several different ones)

Yes - but none of which have been proven by normal safety testing standards to be safe OR effetive - although it is coming to light that the internal testing that they DID do showed potential massive HARM).

These harms have not been reflected in the numbers of serious adverse reactions to the vaccines, which are small compared to the number of doses delivered.

advise others to not wear masks (and to ridicule the mere concept of doing so),

Because even the MSM admits now that all of the garbage 'science' they were relying on to try to claim they were safe or effective has now not only been totally debunked, but has shown that they can be very harmful.?

Really? Then why do surgeons and nurses wear masks? Why aren't they harmed?

to advise against social distancing, or any move that has been tried to reduce the spread of the pandemic.

Like destroying our collective businesses and even very lives over a not very dangerous virus (for the vast majority) and more importantly was always destined to become endemic?

Bankruptcy numbers in 2018 were the same as in 2020 and have fallen significantly since:

United States Bankruptcies - Trading Economics (Select the 10 year period to show current bankruptcies in context).

Those people probably should be held liable for the outcomes we are seeing.

Royflmao! The Darkside is strong in this one...

People are still dying from COVID in nearly every country. In China even the government there has given up hope and is under pressure from the populace.

People who advise others to avoid lifesaving medicines and precautions are evil.

But hanging people from lamp posts is purely evil and criminal,

In some cases it would be, but in this case? Not even close. Mass murderers deserve to die in the worst and most public way possible.

So, you are in favor of lynchings, and based entirely on the untrue doom porn you believe?

Tell me, since you and I are survivors, are you experiencing all that extra cash and property that is now available because of the dead? Is anyone? Surely you'd think if depopulation motivates all your alleged villains, then as a survivor, you'd also be in a good position.

originally posted by: Asmodeus3

originally posted by: chr0naut

originally posted by: tanstaafl

originally posted by: chr0naut
a reply to: M5xaz
No, those who, in the light of all the deaths from this disease, continue to suggest that the disease itself is benign, advise people to avoid the vaccines (several different ones)

Yes - but none of which have been proven by normal safety testing standards to be safe OR effetive - although it is coming to light that the internal testing that they DID do showed potential massive HARM).

These harms have not been reflected in the numbers of serious adverse reactions to the vaccines, which are small compared to the number of doses delivered.

advise others to not wear masks (and to ridicule the mere concept of doing so),

Because even the MSM admits now that all of the garbage 'science' they were relying on to try to claim they were safe or effective has now not only been totally debunked, but has shown that they can be very harmful.?

Really? Then why do surgeons and nurses wear masks? Why aren't they harmed?

to advise against social distancing, or any move that has been tried to reduce the spread of the pandemic.

Like destroying our collective businesses and even very lives over a not very dangerous virus (for the vast majority) and more importantly was always destined to become endemic?

Bankruptcy numbers in 2018 were the same as in 2020 and have fallen significantly since:

United States Bankruptcies - Trading Economics (Select the 10 year period to show current bankruptcies in context).

Those people probably should be held liable for the outcomes we are seeing.

Royflmao! The Darkside is strong in this one...

People are still dying from COVID in nearly every country. In China even the government there has given up hope and is under pressure from the populace.

People who advise others to avoid lifesaving medicines and precautions are evil.

But hanging people from lamp posts is purely evil and criminal,

In some cases it would be, but in this case? Not even close. Mass murderers deserve to die in the worst and most public way possible.

So, you are in favor of lynchings, and based entirely on the untrue doom porn you believe?

Tell me, since you and I are survivors, are you experiencing all that extra cash and property that is now available because of the dead? Is anyone? Surely you'd think if depopulation motivates all your alleged villains, then as a survivor, you'd also be in a good position.

The arguments you are presenting have been refuted several times and on the top of this you are still engaging in vaccine apologetics and denialism of reality. Supporting official narratives that are debunked and not even having an appreciation as to the extent of the damage of the response to Covid which is much more damaging than Covid itself.

A large number of excess non Covid deaths. Where do you think they come from? Climate change?

As I said earlier vaccine apologetics and defending the pharmaceuticals can't win any arguments.


You are advising others to avoid lifesaving medicines and precautions.

originally posted by: chr0naut

originally posted by: Asmodeus3

originally posted by: chr0naut

originally posted by: tanstaafl

originally posted by: chr0naut
a reply to: M5xaz
No, those who, in the light of all the deaths from this disease, continue to suggest that the disease itself is benign, advise people to avoid the vaccines (several different ones)

Yes - but none of which have been proven by normal safety testing standards to be safe OR effetive - although it is coming to light that the internal testing that they DID do showed potential massive HARM).

These harms have not been reflected in the numbers of serious adverse reactions to the vaccines, which are small compared to the number of doses delivered.

advise others to not wear masks (and to ridicule the mere concept of doing so),

Because even the MSM admits now that all of the garbage 'science' they were relying on to try to claim they were safe or effective has now not only been totally debunked, but has shown that they can be very harmful.?

Really? Then why do surgeons and nurses wear masks? Why aren't they harmed?

to advise against social distancing, or any move that has been tried to reduce the spread of the pandemic.

Like destroying our collective businesses and even very lives over a not very dangerous virus (for the vast majority) and more importantly was always destined to become endemic?

Bankruptcy numbers in 2018 were the same as in 2020 and have fallen significantly since:

United States Bankruptcies - Trading Economics (Select the 10 year period to show current bankruptcies in context).

Those people probably should be held liable for the outcomes we are seeing.

Royflmao! The Darkside is strong in this one...

People are still dying from COVID in nearly every country. In China even the government there has given up hope and is under pressure from the populace.

People who advise others to avoid lifesaving medicines and precautions are evil.

But hanging people from lamp posts is purely evil and criminal,

In some cases it would be, but in this case? Not even close. Mass murderers deserve to die in the worst and most public way possible.

So, you are in favor of lynchings, and based entirely on the untrue doom porn you believe?

Tell me, since you and I are survivors, are you experiencing all that extra cash and property that is now available because of the dead? Is anyone? Surely you'd think if depopulation motivates all your alleged villains, then as a survivor, you'd also be in a good position.

The arguments you are presenting have been refuted several times and on the top of this you are still engaging in vaccine apologetics and denialism of reality. Supporting official narratives that are debunked and not even having an appreciation as to the extent of the damage of the response to Covid which is much more damaging than Covid itself.

A large number of excess non Covid deaths. Where do you think they come from? Climate change?

As I said earlier vaccine apologetics and defending the pharmaceuticals can't win any arguments.

You are advising others to avoid lifesaving medicines and precautions.



No, they have not. You leave threads any time your arguments are refuted and then turn up again to pretend like they weren't.

"Life saving medications"


You know you have to quote something when someone else says it, as basically everything you say has been repeated verbatim from big pharma.

originally posted by: Asmodeus3

You seem to want to divert the conversation. From the serious adverse reactions to 'what' is a serious adverse reaction. From 1 in10,000 to 1 in 800 and so on. Have you noticed the pattern? It's called vaccine apology!

1 in 10,000 is considered a rare event. Normally per 100,000 or even per million is used, so yes, I converted it to 10 per 100,000 to match other measurements though you think I do not know how to do math.

When I search "1 in 800 severe reactions with covid vaccine" I get nothing, so it must be something you picked up in a video on Bit Chute or something, IDK, so I asked you and you seem to not like me asking.

When I search "list of severe reactions with covid vaccine" anything listed as severe is also listed as rare, so once again I'm trying to understand your 1 per 800 that you been throwing around. How many of these below also play into your 1 per 800?

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originally posted by: Xtrozero

originally posted by: Asmodeus3

You seem to want to divert the conversation. From the serious adverse reactions to 'what' is a serious adverse reaction. From 1 in10,000 to 1 in 800 and so on. Have you noticed the pattern? It's called vaccine apology!

1 in 10,000 is considered a rare event. Normally per 100,000 or even per million is used, so yes, I converted it to 10 per 100,000 to match other measurements though you think I do not know how to do math.

When I search "1 in 800 severe reactions with covid vaccine" I get nothing, so it must be something you picked up in a video on Bit Chute or something, IDK, so I asked you and you seem to not like me asking.

When I search "list of severe reactions with covid vaccine" anything listed as severe is also listed as rare, so once again I'm trying to understand your 1 per 800 that you been throwing around. How many of these below also play into your 1 per 800?

Injection site pain
Swelling
Fever
Fatigue
Headache
Chills
Myalgia
Arthralgia
Nausea/vomiting

You are completely wrong again with your interpretations. Anyone can verify it to you but you don't seem to be taking part in any other threads and instead focusing your attempts in a thread like this one. You are still engaging in vaccine apologetics and denialism of reality.

What Bitchute?? There is nothing wrong with the platform by the way but when I make threads I have links from peer-reviewed papers, pre-prints and the scientific literature which you seem to disregard.

originally posted by: Xtrozero

originally posted by: Asmodeus3

You seem to want to divert the conversation. From the serious adverse reactions to 'what' is a serious adverse reaction. From 1 in10,000 to 1 in 800 and so on. Have you noticed the pattern? It's called vaccine apology!

1 in 10,000 is considered a rare event. Normally per 100,000 or even per million is used, so yes, I converted it to 10 per 100,000 to match other measurements though you think I do not know how to do math.

When I search "1 in 800 severe reactions with covid vaccine" I get nothing, so it must be something you picked up in a video on Bit Chute or something, IDK, so I asked you and you seem to not like me asking.

When I search "list of severe reactions with covid vaccine" anything listed as severe is also listed as rare, so once again I'm trying to understand your 1 per 800 that you been throwing around. How many of these below also play into your 1 per 800?

Injection site pain
Swelling
Fever
Fatigue
Headache
Chills
Myalgia
Arthralgia
Nausea/vomiting

You're clearly lost if you're resorting to "omgz bitchute" now.

originally posted by: Asmodeus3

What Bitchute?? There is nothing wrong with the platform by the way but when I make threads I have links from peer-reviewed papers, pre-prints and the scientific literature which you seem to disregard.

You are right there nothing wrong with Bitchute, I'm asking you where did the 1 per 800 severe reactions come from as I cannot find a single thing on it. Since you have used it like 50 times now, I thought you would know. I also listed some reactions past the normal sore arm and maybe feel like crap for a day or so and asked if these were part of the 1 per 800, and still nothing. If you got the 1 per 800 out of a video, then it is not searchable, hence why I asked.

Injection site pain
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originally posted by: v1rtu0s0

You're clearly lost if you're resorting to "omgz bitchute" now.

I didn't know we were trying to win something here. My bad...

Let's just say you win whatever game it is you think we are playing and call it good.

originally posted by: Xtrozero

originally posted by: Asmodeus3

What Bitchute?? There is nothing wrong with the platform by the way but when I make threads I have links from peer-reviewed papers, pre-prints and the scientific literature which you seem to disregard.

You are right there nothing wrong with Bitchute, I'm asking you where did the 1 per 800 severe reactions come from as I cannot find a single thing on it. Since you have used it like 50 times now, I thought you would know. I also listed some reactions past the normal sore arm and maybe feel like crap for a day or so and asked if these were part of the 1 per 800, and still nothing. If you got the 1 per 800 out of a video, then it is not searchable, hence why I asked.

Injection site pain
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The reason you cannot find anything is because you are not reading the literature. And this is mainly the same reason you are coming to the wrong conclusions and the reason you are engaging in vaccine apologetics and denialism of reality.

In terms of the excess deaths you still have to read the literature to see and appreciate the high number of non Covid excess deaths that are related to the pandemic response.

And as always engaging in vaccine apologetics and denialism of reality isn't wise.

The argument that I have looked around and couldn't find anything isn't great. On the contrary according to your reasoning you can cancel most of research and articles around.

a reply to: Xtrozero

When I search "1 in 800 severe reactions with covid vaccine" I get nothing

Try looking up 12.5 serious reactions per 10000.

originally posted by: Asmodeus3

The reason you cannot find anything is because you are not reading the literature.

Ok thanks...

originally posted by: Itisnowagain
a reply to: Xtrozero

When I search "1 in 800 severe reactions with covid vaccine" I get nothing

Try looking up 12.5 serious reactions per 10000.

That's not gonna help if basic math skills are lacking.

originally posted by: Itisnowagain

Try looking up 12.5 serious reactions per 10000.

So yes, that is 1 per 800 too, but I was wondering where the 1 per 800 came from. The 12.5 per 10,000 actually came out of the trials themselves and was published. That 12.5 was a huge list of reactions too and came about comparing to vaccinated groups to the placebo groups, so it is not some raw 12.5 per 10,000 event we would be looking for in the real world.

Here are the results of the trials that ended up with a 95% CI of 1.15




This is all added to a more recent New Zealand study that isn't peer review as their study actually says it isn't. They basically took the results of the trials and apply them across 4.1 million vaccinated and then said, well with the results from the trials then at least 1000 per million would have like serious reactions too and so with 4.11 million vaccinated in New Zealand then that means 4000+ people should have serious reactions. They are saying the possibility is there based on the trails and not 4000+ people actually have serious reactions. None of the info in the study is new since it all came from the trials.

Study


They then applied it to this click bait title, and subtitle.

originally posted by: Xtrozero

originally posted by: Itisnowagain

Try looking up 12.5 serious reactions per 10000.

So yes, that is 1 per 800 too, but I was wondering where the 1 per 800 came from. The 12.5 per 10,000 actually came out of the trials themselves and was published. That 12.5 was a huge list of reactions too and came about comparing to vaccinated groups to the placebo groups, so it is not some raw 12.5 per 10,000 event we would be looking for in the real world.

Here are the results of the trials that ended up with a 95% CI of 1.15

This is all added to a more recent New Zealand study that isn't peer review as their study actually says it isn't. They basically took the results of the trials and apply them across 4.1 million vaccinated and then said, well with the results from the trials then at least 1000 per million would have like serious reactions too and so with 4.11 million vaccinated in New Zealand then that means 4000+ people should have serious reactions. They are saying the possibility is there based on the trails and not 4000+ people actually have serious reactions. None of the info in the study is new since it all came from the trials.

Study


They then applied it to this click bait title, and subtitle.

Of course we would look in the real world. It came out of the original trials and not out of the minds of conspiracy theorists or out of a black hole...
To seriously don't know what you are talking about.

The Swine Flu vaccine was withdrawn for 1 in 100,000

The Rotavirus vaccine was withdrawn for 1 to 2 in 10,000

And the mRNA vaccines are still here eventhough their rate of serious adverse reactions is much higher.

You seem to be in a denial again. If in any doubt watch the video from Dr Campbell. With so many serious adverse reaction in the trials they shouldn't have released the vaccines in the first place. If anything, the number could be much higher given we don't know the medium and long term affects.

For once more you try to defend the indefensible.

www.abovetopsecret.com...

This is the thread about the mathematics of the serious adverse reactions.