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originally posted by: Maxmars
a reply to: LABTECH767
I was tempted to believe, though not particularly 'convinced,' that early on, in what might be characterized as his "awakening" to the insidious multidimensional influences of our collective 'leadership,' he became isolated and adopted a pseudo-messiah complex. Not unheard of in those similarly driven by a message they deem of critical importance.
However, I am not inclined to accept that the records his self-presentation represent an immutable image of the man. Humans are not static; in my estimation he is not the same man, any more than you or I could be so considered when compared with snapshots of us culled from decades ago... but I could be mistaken.
I am willing to examine his words and deeds as a continuum of expression, the message evolves along with the messenger, and while I can't fully accept the metaphors he chooses to embrace; I know that dismissing them solely based upon past utterances denies the possibility that he observes somethings that many others may have become too distracted to recognize. In any case, I choose to opt for more data, not less.
Is he harmful? That determination is best left to posterity because only then can we assign a comprehensive context to the matter.
I would offer in exchange a follow up question - Is he harmful now, at this moment? Narrowing that question in that way makes a correct answer more likely, again, in my estimation. If the answer is "yes" then the immediate threat should be self-evident and identifiable; If "no," the action of an "official" designation is irrelevant and more likely socio-politically transient.
I has been determined that he has legal means available to him to appeal this matter - and that from a legalistic perspective he has NOT been 'designated' a terrorist... I still feel that the inference is there, after all the authorities are unapologetic in the characterization of Icke's movements and speech as somehow a threat. Whether there is a realistic chance that effort could be rescinded is yet to be seen. Even if they desist in this, I find it somewhat unlikely that any apologies are forthcoming.
As for his becoming rich proselytizing his theories... that is entirely reasonable. People are willing to pay to hear him or speak with him... that is entirely between him and his audience; and not the onlookers who have 'feelings' about what he says. It would be entirely different if he had "secret information" which only those paying him could enjoy.
originally posted by: Zanti Misfit
a reply to: Maxmars
Well , I have Silver Coins then . The Appropriate Amount would be in Order Sir . *()
originally posted by: Freeborn
Had to have a little childish giggle to myself.
ATS; you gotta love it.
Everyone agrees with each other but still find cause to argue.
As for Icke; Watched him go from goalkeeper to sports presenter to crank to conspiracy theorist extraordinaire.
There may be some small kernel of truth and insight somewhere in the midst of his mountain of inane ramblings but nothing, absolutely nothing, he's said could justify this ban etc.
Crazy.
terrorist noun [ C ] uk /ˈter.ə.rɪst/ us /ˈter.ɚ.ɪst/
someone who uses violent action, or threats of violent action, for political purposes:
Okay. Just spitballing here, but if assets are willing to murder a dozen people to get to the guy that invented a hydrogen engine this past year at a grocery store, how would they give the guy that talks about energy fields and reptilians give credence to his claims if they offed him.
originally posted by: GENERAL EYES
a reply to: slatesteam
They don't want to prove him right.
Would lend credibility to his theories and dig the hole deeper.
Better to just play cat and mouse.
originally posted by: nugget1
originally posted by: MykeNukem
a reply to: nugget1
Einstein, A. G. Bell, Tesla, Jung, Benz
Einstein, A. G. Bell, Tesla, Jung, Benz..........Icke?
I think your list brokeded. LOL
ETA: I'll be not too impressed if they shed their skin now....and it turns out he's right!
I really didn't mean to include Icke in the list of greats that brought so much advancement to society, I was refering to all the people who thought they were just as screwball.
Had they been silenced we'd all still be sitting in outhouses.
I know, I'm just a PITA
As to cat and mouse, he’s one guy that most people would turn a nose up at just for hearing his ideas. A whole continent? Really?
I mean hell, he can crash on my couch for the weekend.
Why not poison him or make it a car accident?
They took out Ted Gunderson for less crazy stone-turning.
originally posted by: Itisnowagain
a reply to: nugget1
Russell Brands latest yt video is rather concerning.
I don’t understand why if he is being labeled a terrorist, TPTB don’t just kill him outright? Thoughts?
Not saying he doesn't have worthy information; just saying not a source I can struggle through.
originally posted by: Freeborn
absolutely nothing, he's said could justify this ban etc.