Conspiracy Theories About Pelosi Attacker Debunked by Pelosi Attacker

originally posted by: face23785
I've seen that the guy had embraced both left and right wing conspiracy theories, but can't find which ones.

I've also seen that he had other targets, but can't find out who. Were they only Democrats or both parties?

Does anyone have sources for either of these?

We aren't likely to hear his targets if they were Republicans. It doesn't fit the narrative.

a reply to: panoz77

Shortly after the initial call,Officers Kolby Wilmes and Kyle Cagney respondedtothe
residence. When Off. Wilmes rangthe doorbell,Defendant directed Mr.Pelosi not to open
the door. ButMr.Pelosi opened the door with his left hand. As the door opened,the two
men stood inthe dimly litfoyer facing the officers. Mr.Pelosi nervously but calmly greeted
them. When the officer asked what was going on,Defendant smiled and said, everything's
good and pulled his hands toward his body. When an officer turned on his flashlight,
Defendant could be seen holdingthe bottom handle ofthe hammer with one hand and Mr.
Pelosi'srightarm with the other. Mr.Pelosi had his hand on the top ofthe handle nearthe
hammer itself. One officer ordered, Dropthe hammer! At the same time, Defendant
raised the hammer and said, um, nope." Defendant tried to pullthe hammer away from
Mr.Pelosi, which twisted Mr.Pelosi's arm back. Simultaneously,Mr.Pelosi pleaded, hey, hey, hey The officer asked again,
"what is going on here ? But Mr.Pelosi could not
maintain his grip on the hammer . A second later, Defendant wrenched the hammer away
from Mr.Pelosi,immediately stepped back ,and lunged at Mr. Pelosi, striking Mr. Pelosi in
the head at full force with the hammer ,which knocked Mr. Pelosi unconscious The officers
rushed into the house,tackled Defendant ,and disarmed him. Mr. Pelosi remained
unresponsive for about three minutes ,waking up in a pool of his own blood.

a reply to: Xcalibur254

as has been said, until we see the footage, this is a wild story and not much else. Cops seeing the suspect with a weapon never drew their weapons, um not likely. But tell it anyway you like for now.

a reply to: Xcalibur254

Police officers don't think twice before shooting someone swinging a deadly weapon.

Go look at the footage of Killing of Ma'Khia Bryant. That is their standard protocol. That is why about 1000 people are killed every year by officers in the USA consistently.

He could not have swung an actual hammer at Pelosi's skull in front of officers and not been shot.

I'm surprised nobody is making this talking point.

originally posted by: MountainLaurel
It’s actually a good point that because it’s been acknowledged that video evidence exists, we’ll eventually see it and all our questions will be answered, Right ? Here’s the problem, if you listen carefully to the S.F. DA’s press conference, she actually states that it will become public IF it is used in court, lol, REALLY listen to the words she uses at about 7:30 min. Into the Q &A with reporters on the 2nd link below of the full exchange. The first link is what I found while looking for the whole press conference, they edit out the majority of the reporters questions and basically reinforce the narrative this was politically motivated. Below is a good example of how this story is being “managed”

Edited, spin version of press conference:

www.sfgate.com...

Full un-edited press conference: pay attention to her answer about the public seeing video evidence, very telling.

www.youtube.com...

The fact that she starts out by stating how important it is to use words wisely is quite ironic !

This should be its own thread. Not specifically about this case but about how this case demonstrates media manipulation.

originally posted by: Creep Thumper

originally posted by: face23785
I've seen that the guy had embraced both left and right wing conspiracy theories, but can't find which ones.

I've also seen that he had other targets, but can't find out who. Were they only Democrats or both parties?

Does anyone have sources for either of these?

We aren't likely to hear his targets if they were Republicans. It doesn't fit the narrative.

That was kinda my point. If he had a list of all Democrat targets, we'd have heard who they were by now. The fact the identities of the other targets haven't been reported tells me it was probably people from both parties and he's just an all-around anti-government nutjob not a right winger.

originally posted by: Xcalibur254
a reply to: face23785

He states this was a suicide mission. So it's most likely some kind of manifesto.

That doesn't explain why he brought it with him. We've seen this before. Normally you post your manifesto online or send it to the media. You could just leave it at your residence, knowing they're going to search there after the fact. Bringing it with you risks it getting damaged in some way during your "suicide mission."

He also claimed he's a friend of the Pelosis, so, I mean which of his statements do we take as fact and which ones do we discard?

Police Investigation 101: Was the attacker known to the victim?

Yes.

A hammer attack does seem somewhat personal.

How does MSNBC and JOE BIDEN look at this photo of David DePape helping to officiate a wedding, and come away with him being a Mega-Maga assassin Wanna-Be?

Photo of David Helping with a Wedding: gettr.com...

a reply to: carewemust

They don't. They're just lying.

originally posted by: face23785
a reply to: carewemust

They don't. They're just lying.

Democrat leaders and RINOs think people will vote to keep high-prices, high-crime, and an open US-Mex border, on November 8th, simply because the husband of a drunken TDS-afflicted witch was hit with a hammer at 2:30am last Friday????

a reply to: carewemust

Nancy Pelosi and her Husband are the Best Campaign Ads the Reps got going for them Right Now ...........

originally posted by: Xcalibur254
a reply to: wills120

So, who was the unidentified person who opened the door for the police?

They were identified in the charging documents. It was Paul.

Doubtful. The 'documents' are lies.

He was holding a hammer and engaged in a confrontation then managed to walk over to the door and open it without the perp attacking him (assuming he was anywhere near the door)? Come on - you have to see this as contradictary.

Not buying this, not at all. This was a drug-fueled buttstabbing gone awry IMO.

originally posted by: carewemust

originally posted by: face23785
a reply to: carewemust

They don't. They're just lying.

Democrat leaders and RINOs think people will vote to keep high-prices, high-crime, and an open US-Mex border, on November 8th, simply because the husband of a drunken TDS-afflicted witch was hit with a hammer at 2:30am last Friday????

Given people voted for all this nonsense to begin with, I wouldn't be surprised.

Makes no sense:

Pelosi himself opened the door when police arrived, and rather than walk out, began to walk back toward assailant David DePape. DePape even assured police that everything was “good,”which — given the broken window — police clearly didn’t believe.

Only then did the hammer attack occur, prompting an immediate response from the surprised officers, according to NBC

hotair.com...

If it's true that Paulie P. was the "unknown third person" who opened the door to police...WHY didn't he rush out the door or into the arms of police he'd just let in...while yelling "HELP"?

Why, instead, did he go back inside and stand beside DePape to calmly answer questions of police?

Wasn't Paul supposed to be trapped in the house with a madman threatening him with a hammer?

This simply doesn't make any sense.

One member here has said that Pelosi and DePape were in a struggle with the hammer, while Pelosi used one hand to open the door for the police, while holding the same hammer DePape ALSO was holding...with his OTHER hand.

NBC is reporting that the hammer attack didn't occur until AFTER Pelosi let the police inside...and, instead of running out the door to safety with the police...calmly walked back in to stand beside DePape.

a reply to: IAMTAT

i posted these these two articles in the other thread. one from the left and one from the right leaning MSM's right after the attack that say the exact same thing. and is completely different from what is being reported now.

from my post in the other thread,

The 911 caller “doesn’t know who the male is, but he advises that his name is David and then [said] he is a friend,” a dispatcher told a police car, the Los Angeles Times reported. The dispatcher added that the caller “sounded somewhat confused.” Pelosi spoke in coded language because DePape knew that he was on the phone, a San Francisco law enforcement source told the Times. Paul Pelosi made 911 call from bathroom to save himself from suspected attacker David DePape: reports

In a communication between a dispatcher and a police car, the dispatcher says “there’s a male in the home and that he’s going to wait for his wife. The dispatcher said the man on the line “doesn’t know who the male is, but he advise that his name is David and then [said] he is a friend.” The caller, she added, “sounded somewhat confused.”

and this i saw several times in reports,

When officers arrived and knocked on the front door, Scott said, someone inside opened the door. The officers saw Paul Pelosi and DePape, “each with one hand on a single hammer,” he said.

Paul Pelosi tricked intruder, alerted cops before being beaten with hammer, police say

sometimes i can't believe how they think or expect that people forget or should forget about what was reported at the time of a occurrence and quoted police reports are not to be beloved until days later why even brother reporting until a story is settled on.

i can see maybe if witness tell abut what took place before cops got there, but when the cops report what happened while there, and there are no wittness other than them, the prep and victim, to change the story just says how fricking corrupt all of it is.

a reply to: IAMTAT

Except that's not what the report says. It says Pelosi opened the door with his left hand while holding the hammer with his right hand. DePape was also holding the hammer. When the officers saw the scene they demanded both men drop the hammer. DePape replied, "Um, no," ripped the hammer from Pelosi's hand and struck him.

a reply to: Xcalibur254

Except that's not what the report says. It says Pelosi opened the door with his left hand while holding the hammer with his right hand.

that is called selective editing days later.

originally posted by: BernnieJGato
a reply to: Xcalibur254

Except that's not what the report says. It says Pelosi opened the door with his left hand while holding the hammer with his right hand.

that is called selective editing days later.

ANOTHER reason why releasing body cam/home security footage is paramount.