No such thing as 'fully vaccinated'!!!

a reply to: nonspecific

IF it turns out that covid was engineered and released by the same people pushing vaccines then they're responsible for over 6 million deaths. People will swing for that, just like the Nazi collaborators.

originally posted by: Asmodeus3

The term doom porn is another made up phrase to reduce criticism and obstruct the objective of a conversation. I don't think that the totalitarian state we have lived in the last 2-3 years can be compared with the criticisms and concerns people have over this matter.

Call it what you will, both side when way overboard. I do agree the totalitarian state was by far the worst of the two and drove the other side to push back well beyond what would normally be needed, but in either case they both need to turn down the flames.

Nuremberg 2.0 I propose. Far from being doom porn (whether this means). Already discussed elsewhere.

The doom porn is how bad people suggest the vaccine is which is a totally different discussion to Nuremberg 2.0. Doom porn is like saying millions of people are dropping dead from the vaccine, filling up the streets kind of crap and people follow these conversations all day...

originally posted by: Xtrozero

originally posted by: Asmodeus3

The term doom porn is another made up phrase to reduce criticism and obstruct the objective of a conversation. I don't think that the totalitarian state we have lived in the last 2-3 years can be compared with the criticisms and concerns people have over this matter.

Call it what you will, both side when way overboard. I do agree the totalitarian state was by far the worst of the two and drove the other side to push back well beyond what would normally be needed, but in either case they both need to turn down the flames.

Nuremberg 2.0 I propose. Far from being doom porn (whether this means). Already discussed elsewhere.

The doom porn is how bad people suggest the vaccine is which is a totally different discussion to Nuremberg 2.0. Doom porn is like saying millions of people are dropping dead from the vaccine, filling up the streets kind of crap and people follow these conversations all day...

The only thing is that this isn't something many of us recognise as valid language not most of us claim that everyone will be dead from the vaccines.
That is probably strawman attempts by the same people who want to downplay this serious issue.

originally posted by: Asmodeus3

The only thing is that this isn't something many of us recognise as valid language not most of us claim that everyone will be dead from the vaccines.
That is probably strawman attempts by the same people who want to downplay this serious issue.

Which serious issue? If you are not pushing the vaccine will kill everyone, not referring to yourself as "pureblood", don't add stories like people are dying all around me to the vaccine etc. etc. then you are not pushing doom porn.

originally posted by: Asmodeus3

originally posted by: Xtrozero

originally posted by: Asmodeus3

The term doom porn is another made up phrase to reduce criticism and obstruct the objective of a conversation. I don't think that the totalitarian state we have lived in the last 2-3 years can be compared with the criticisms and concerns people have over this matter.

Call it what you will, both side when way overboard. I do agree the totalitarian state was by far the worst of the two and drove the other side to push back well beyond what would normally be needed, but in either case they both need to turn down the flames.

Nuremberg 2.0 I propose. Far from being doom porn (whether this means). Already discussed elsewhere.

The doom porn is how bad people suggest the vaccine is which is a totally different discussion to Nuremberg 2.0. Doom porn is like saying millions of people are dropping dead from the vaccine, filling up the streets kind of crap and people follow these conversations all day...

The only thing is that this isn't something many of us recognise as valid language not most of us claim that everyone will be dead from the vaccines.
That is probably strawman attempts by the same people who want to downplay this serious issue.

Exactly, when it comes to genocide there's no room for debate. Infact people censoring anyone who is trying to communicate the truth are implicit. Saying I didn't know isn't an excuse.

originally posted by: Xtrozero

originally posted by: Asmodeus3

The only thing is that this isn't something many of us recognise as valid language not most of us claim that everyone will be dead from the vaccines.
That is probably strawman attempts by the same people who want to downplay this serious issue.

Which serious issue? If you are not pushing the vaccine will kill everyone, not referring to yourself as "pureblood", don't add stories like people are dying all around me to the vaccine etc. etc. then you are not pushing doom porn.

Don't you see any serious issue or serious issues in regards to public health? Or in regards to the anomalous situation we had to live in the last 3 years?

I am not using the phrase doom porn and it's not a valid argument in these conversations. Not everyone has to drop dead to have a serious medical and health issue.

originally posted by: Asmodeus3

Don't you see any serious issue or serious issues in regards to public health? Or in regards to the anomalous situation we had to live in the last 3 years?

There are lots of different ones, which do you wish to discuss...

originally posted by: Xtrozero

originally posted by: Asmodeus3

Don't you see any serious issue or serious issues in regards to public health? Or in regards to the anomalous situation we had to live in the last 3 years?

There are lots of different ones, which do you wish to discuss...

We are already discussing these issues in several threads if you have a look around.

This thread is about the idea that nobody can be fully vaccinated according to one of the experts. It's seems that being fully vaccinated is offensive language according to this strange ideology.

originally posted by: Asmodeus3

We are already discussing these issues in several threads if you have a look around.

This thread is about the idea that nobody can be fully vaccinated according to one of the experts. It's seems that being fully vaccinated is offensive language according to this strange ideology.

I am fully aware of all the issues...

I said in an earlier post that what drives Pure, Leaky, Not Fully Vaccinated has more to do with the virus type than anything else. We have never been fully vacced against the cold/flu and 100 of other viruses either and no one cared, as example. It is what it is when we are talking a RNA based virus.

originally posted by: Xtrozero

originally posted by: Asmodeus3

We are already discussing these issues in several threads if you have a look around.

This thread is about the idea that nobody can be fully vaccinated according to one of the experts. It's seems that being fully vaccinated is offensive language according to this strange ideology.

I am fully aware of all the issues...

I said in an earlier post that what drives Pure, Leaky, Not Fully Vaccinated has more to do with the virus type than anything else. We have never been fully vacced against the cold/flu and 100 of other viruses either and no one cared, as example. It is what it is when we are talking a RNA based virus.

Flu is an RNA virus that the elderly get one shot once a year. Not multiple times for the same strain.

Other RNA retroviruses such as HIV are integrated into the genome of the cell they infect via reverse transcription. There are no known vaccines for such viruses.

In the case of SARS-CoV-2 there seems to be multiple shots for the same strain.

I am not aware of vaccines for common cold.
Here is an article in relation to why it's a difficult task.

www.verywellhealth.com...

One of the viruses that causes common colds is OC43 which is a human coronavirus that has come from cattle through zoonosis back in 1889. It is likely that it caused the Russian 'Flu' Pandemic and I have created a whole thread about this. Now it causes common colds and it came from BCov at the end of the 19th century. As far as I know no vaccines exist for such viruses.

originally posted by: Asmodeus3

Flu is an RNA virus that the elderly get one shot once a year. Not multiple times for the same strain.

Flu is a hit or miss approach where early on they do their best WAG as to the top 3 flu viruses they "think" will be the dominate strains, that's it and why it is one shot per year. They do this because their method takes months to prep and so they have no time during the actual flu season to change up if they miss. mRNA is different in it takes them like hours to prep, so in this case they can change up basically instantly when needed. I'm not here to suggest this is right or wrong, but that is why they can do 3 times a year or more if needed and the older flu shot is only done once.

originally posted by: Xtrozero

originally posted by: Asmodeus3

Flu is an RNA virus that the elderly get one shot once a year. Not multiple times for the same strain.

Flu is a hit or miss approach where early on they do their best WAG as to the top 3 flu viruses they "think" will be the dominate strains, that's it and why it is one shot per year. They do this because their method takes months to prep and so they have no time during the actual flu season to change up if they miss. mRNA is different in it takes them like hours to prep, so in this case they can change up basically instantly when needed. I'm not here to suggest this is right or wrong, but that is why they can do 3 times a year or more if needed and the older flu shot is only done once.

Doubles doses isn't something new. For example Hepatitis B vaccine has a similar profile and you are usually given two shots with a space of one month apart. Sometimes you may need a third one after 6 months or so.

The situation with the Covid-19 is very different as there is no limit to how many shots you will have over a much smaller period of time and with no clinical evidence of any benefit after the two dose regime.

The reason they have a two dose regime is for better protection in regards to how the different types of B cells are stimulated. This is why you are given two shots.


Even if you get a booster (3rd shot) I find no reason for why you will keep getting vaccinated with the same vaccine or even with a vaccine which may cover new strains given that you have already been given some protection through the stimulation of memory cells and you probably have been infected already and have gained superior natural immunity which protects against several illness and death.