COVID-19 disease linked to radio-frequency radiation including 5G

a reply to: truetrigger

Three launched 5G in August 2019 but only as a broadband product in London. Slowly and surely, they have expanded and as of now, 5G is switched on in selected postcodes in 68 locations across the country including areas such as Birmingham, Bristol, Liverpool, Glasgow, Sheffield, Edinburgh, Manchester and Cardiff among others.

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a reply to: Asmodeus3

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That "Express mail" address ends up being what looks like a condo on Google Map. It does not appear to be a commercial building so it's someone's private residence.

I know that area or knew it decades ago before the rich and the celebrities ruined it for everyone. It's very exclusive and whoever that is paid serious money for that condo.

Again, all my opinion.

originally posted by: Itisnowagain
a reply to: Blaine91555
Insurance companies won't insure against it.......

It is standard practice for insurance coverage to exclude health damages from wireless and electromagnetic radiation. The Insurance authority Swiss Re released a white paper classifying 5G as a “high” emerging risk cautioning that “potential claims for health impairments may come with a long latency.” If insurance companies won’t take the risk why should we?

ehtrust.org...

Same dubious source as my post above this one.
Refer to that for my opinion.

originally posted by: Blaine91555

originally posted by: Itisnowagain
a reply to: Blaine91555
Insurance companies won't insure against it.......

It is standard practice for insurance coverage to exclude health damages from wireless and electromagnetic radiation. The Insurance authority Swiss Re released a white paper classifying 5G as a “high” emerging risk cautioning that “potential claims for health impairments may come with a long latency.” If insurance companies won’t take the risk why should we?

ehtrust.org...

Same dubious source as my post above this one.
Refer to that for my opinion.

You said that the source is dubious and this is of course your opinion.

emfconference2021.com...

You may have missed this one


Dr Ronald Melnick

Dr. Ronald Melnick, National Institutes of Health Senior Scientist (28 years) who led the design of the National Toxicology Program (NTP) studies on cell phone radiation.

The NTP studies clearly show that non-ionizing radiation can cause cancers and other adverse health effects.Prior to the start of the NTP studies, it was assumed by the industry and the regulatory agencies that radiofrequency radiation could not cause adverse health effects other than those due to tissue heating. So we designed this study to investigate if non-thermal exposures would cause health effects. In the NTP studies, there was clear evidence of cancer development and other adverse health effects at non thermal exposure levels. In the US, the FCC limits for human exposure to radiofrequency radiation are based on the assumption that only thermal effects can cause harm. The NTP studies prove this assumption of safety is not valid… All new wireless technologies, including 5G, should be adequately tested before their implementation leads to unacceptable levels of human exposures and increased health risks.” – Dr. Ronald Melnick

edit on 23-10-2022 by Asmodeus3 because: (no reason given)

originally posted by: Blaine91555
a reply to: Asmodeus3

My opinion only, once again, and I like to follow the money.

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That "Express mail" address ends up being what looks like a condo on Google Map. It does not appear to be a commercial building so it's someone's private residence.

I know that area or knew it decades ago before the rich and the celebrities ruined it for everyone. It's very exclusive and whoever that is paid serious money for that condo.

Again, all my opinion.

Not a valid point though.

If you now argue that these scientists, regardless of whether they are right or wrong in this matter, don't have credibility means you have accepted that they did work which is controversial in your view, but could have some merits. Your point is that they have no or very little credibility.

Speaking of credibility then you could possibly say a lot more about Dr Anthony Fauci....

a reply to: Blaine91555
Can you find an insurance company that insures for health damage caused by electromagnetic radiation?

If so please provide a link.

originally posted by: Blaine91555
a reply to: Asmodeus3

This all my opinion of course but I think I'm on the mark.

The credibility of those involved does matter. Literally, anyone who can read, write, and spell can author a paper based on any wild theory they want. Does not make it believable.

Snakeoil salespersons are a dime a dozen on the Internet. I'd imagine the whole 5G nonsense plugs into the biofield silliness. Mix that with Covid and you have the recipe for a pathway to gullible people's minds and wallets. People who want things to be true and don't care about real evidence and real research fall in line.

It's all about getting people to find their way down the rabbit hole to the real goal which is to get people to buy this stuff.

The purpose of the tax-exempt non-profit is to draw an income.
Link

NOTE: All Bio-Well sales made by Beverly Rubik directly benefit the Institute for Frontier Science, a 501c3 nonprofit laboratory.

I would not be surprised if nearly all earnings go to administration costs. Again just my opinion and best guess.

I am sorry but someone with a PhD in Biophysics does have credibility regardless of your opinions.
The co-author of the paper does have credibility too.


In addition another scientist who I have mentioned above Dr. Ronald Melnick, "National Institutes of Health Senior Scientist (28 years) who led the design of the National Toxicology Program (NTP) studies on cell phone radiation." does have lots of credibility especially when he argues that we thought that only ionising radiation could cause harm but it seems that this may not be the case.

Naw I don't think so
a reply to: Asmodeus3

originally posted by: hombero
Naw I don't think so
a reply to: Asmodeus3

No problem.

a reply to: Asmodeus3

It isn't happening in your opinion only and nowhere else, and there is plenty of research elsewhere though that you seem to ignore conveniently.

Then please post evidence that the illnesses and diseases connected to a weakened immune system have become rampant in society or as shown the paper is incorrect.

I commented before that the authors were not well versed in ionized radiation or virology and that they were promotors of things like "wellness" training and other frindge medicine, and member Blaine91555 took that even further finding unsettling info' on them.

It's funny that you've posted from the Eviromental Health Trust as this group is a very large advocate for global warming and it's effects which you claim is false?

a reply to: Kurokage
Maybe you can find an insurance company that insures for health damage caused by electromagnetic radiation?

If so please provide a link.

originally posted by: Kurokage
a reply to: Asmodeus3

It isn't happening in your opinion only and nowhere else, and there is plenty of research elsewhere though that you seem to ignore conveniently.

Then please post evidence that the illnesses and diseases connected to a weakened immune system have become rampant in society or as shown the paper is incorrect.

I commented before that the authors were not well versed in ionized radiation or virology and that they were promotors of things like "wellness" training and other frindge medicine, and member Blaine91555 took that even further finding unsettling info' on them.

It's funny that you've posted from the Eviromental Health Trust as this group is a very large advocate for global warming and it's effects which you claim is false?

I don't claim that global warming is false for starter. This is a another strawman of yours given that you haven't understood what each one of us is standing for and certainly you haven't understood the premise of the paper presented in the OP. I am obviously against the climate change ideology as much as I am against the vaccine ideology.

The mechanisms of possible immune-suppression are described in mechanisms 1-6 in the conclusions. Go and read them.

The idea that the authors are not well versed it's mainly a personal opinion accompanied by a lot of vaccine ideology and lack of any reading of the paper I have linked.


You may want to take a look at another scientist who was in the NIH for around 28 years

Dr. Ronald Melnick, National Institutes of Health Senior Scientist (28 years) who led the design of the National Toxicology Program (NTP) studies on cell phone radiation

The NTP studies clearly show that non-ionizing radiation can cause cancers and other adverse health effects.Prior to the start of the NTP studies, it was assumed by the industry and the regulatory agencies that radiofrequency radiation could not cause adverse health effects other than those due to tissue heating. So we designed this study to investigate if non-thermal exposures would cause health effects. In the NTP studies, there was clear evidence of cancer development and other adverse health effects at non thermal exposure levels. In the US, the FCC limits for human exposure to radiofrequency radiation are based on the assumption that only thermal effects can cause harm. The NTP studies prove this assumption of safety is not valid… All new wireless technologies, including 5G, should be adequately tested before their implementation leads to unacceptable levels of human exposures and increased health risks.” – Dr. Ronald Melnick

I have posted this above but as always you chose to ignore it or you may have not seen it.

It clearly discusses that it's not only ionising radiation that could cause harm. Non ionising radiation can cause cancers and a range of different serious adverse reactions resulting in ill health.

One of the authors has a PhD in Biophysics. The other is an MD with specialization in radiology as well as being a biologist.

Dr Melnick, the other reference here was a senior scientist at the NIH and toxicologist.

emfconference2021.com...


Out of curiosity and given that you said the first two are not well versed in biology, ionising radiation, or virology, what are your degrees please? What is your expertise? Have you studied Biology? Medicine? Physics? Any other subject maybe? Have you produced any publications?

a reply to: Itisnowagain

Can you find an insurance company that insures for health damage caused by electromagnetic radiation?

what has that got to do with with this thread??
"COVID-19 disease linked to radio-frequency radiation including 5G"
Try looking for your own insurance quotes!!

a reply to: Asmodeus3

Out of curiosity and given that you said the first two are not well versed in biology, ionising radiation, or virology, what are your degrees please? What is your expertise? Have you studied Biology? Medicine? Physics? Any other subject maybe? Have you produced any publications?

You seem to think that I have to post my qualifications and publications to prove something, what about this being a public forum can you not comprehend?? If that is so important to you then please post your qualifications?? I know you won't!

Again to reaffirm, the authors are new age "snake-oil salesmen" which has been pointed out numerous times by me and other posters now, with a cherry picked paper. They specialise in wellness traning, it's easy to look up, maybe you should...
If 5G radiation was doing the damage as listed in the paper there would be a massive rise in illnesses related to immune system compromisation, and there simply isn't, and I've asked you to post evidence to back up that rise. You haven't.
You're obviously having trouble either understanding this or don't want to hear it.
You do the same with info you post in other threads, you don't wish to hear anything negative about it....

originally posted by: Asmodeus3

originally posted by: Blaine91555

originally posted by: Itisnowagain
a reply to: Blaine91555
Insurance companies won't insure against it.......

It is standard practice for insurance coverage to exclude health damages from wireless and electromagnetic radiation. The Insurance authority Swiss Re released a white paper classifying 5G as a “high” emerging risk cautioning that “potential claims for health impairments may come with a long latency.” If insurance companies won’t take the risk why should we?

ehtrust.org...

Same dubious source as my post above this one.
Refer to that for my opinion.

You said that the source is dubious and this is of course your opinion.

emfconference2021.com...

You may have missed this one

I found he had two papers in 2017 but no evidence they were peer-reviewed. Do you have a link that will help me beyond what I've found on my own?

originally posted by: Asmodeus3

originally posted by: Blaine91555
a reply to: Asmodeus3

My opinion only, once again, and I like to follow the money.

Donate page on the site you linked.

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We cannot thank you enough for your support. Together, are transforming the issue of wireless radiation exposure from cellular devices, towers, and antennas. This is an environmental and human health hazard that EHT has worked on for more than a decade! Current safety standards by the U.S. government and many other agencies are outdated and out of sync with reality.

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That "Express mail" address ends up being what looks like a condo on Google Map. It does not appear to be a commercial building so it's someone's private residence.

I know that area or knew it decades ago before the rich and the celebrities ruined it for everyone. It's very exclusive and whoever that is paid serious money for that condo.

Again, all my opinion.

Not a valid point though.

If you now argue that these scientists, regardless of whether they are right or wrong in this matter, don't have credibility means you have accepted that they did work which is controversial in your view, but could have some merits. Your point is that they have no or very little credibility.

Speaking of credibility then you could possibly say a lot more about Dr Anthony Fauci....

You don't think that their office turning out to be a condo next to a tennis club in and exclusive community gives you pause? How much research did you do? It only took me minutes to find things that bothered me.

a reply to: Asmodeus3

Sorry but the whole Biofield thing is a money-making scheme in my opinion. Anyone involved has no credibility in my opinion.

Do you accept this without hesitation or study because it backs up what you want to be true, rather than what's proven to be true?

originally posted by: Blaine91555

originally posted by: Asmodeus3

originally posted by: Blaine91555
a reply to: Asmodeus3

My opinion only, once again, and I like to follow the money.

Donate page on the site you linked.

Thank You for Your Support!

We cannot thank you enough for your support. Together, are transforming the issue of wireless radiation exposure from cellular devices, towers, and antennas. This is an environmental and human health hazard that EHT has worked on for more than a decade! Current safety standards by the U.S. government and many other agencies are outdated and out of sync with reality.

Our efforts to reduce environmental health hazards, depends on your support. We hope that you see the impact that EHT is making and support us with a donation. Thank you.
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Environmental Health Trust P.O. Box 58 Teton Village WY 83025

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Environmental Health Trust 7100 N Rachel Way Unit 6 Eagles Rest, Teton Village WY 83025
EHT is a 501 C 3 IRS registered public charity EIN NUMBER 20-7498107

That "Express mail" address ends up being what looks like a condo on Google Map. It does not appear to be a commercial building so it's someone's private residence.

I know that area or knew it decades ago before the rich and the celebrities ruined it for everyone. It's very exclusive and whoever that is paid serious money for that condo.

Again, all my opinion.

Not a valid point though.

If you now argue that these scientists, regardless of whether they are right or wrong in this matter, don't have credibility means you have accepted that they did work which is controversial in your view, but could have some merits. Your point is that they have no or very little credibility.

Speaking of credibility then you could possibly say a lot more about Dr Anthony Fauci....

You don't think that their office turning out to be a condo next to a tennis club in and exclusive community gives you pause? How much research did you do? It only took me minutes to find things that bothered me.

Experimenting on leading to the deaths of African American orphans, torturing beagles, getting millions in kickbacks from big pharma is cool. But I think you found the real evil doers who are members of a tennis club.

a reply to: v1rtu0s0

You know what I meant. The non-profit is probably a drawer in a desk and a checkbook to pay "cough" administrative costs. The country is full of them.

Caveat emptor.