NHS deliberately overloaded so more die of strokes and heart attacks - depopulation..?

a reply to: gortex

having worked and more recently been a hyper acute patient its the converging crisis that are doing for the nhs, not least the fixed focus on covid has displaced a lot of serious illnesses we are at the stage that no political party can fix it now..

there was a window when the 700k came forward to support the nhs but that went nowhere and thus we are here now and I've no idea how the nhs will weather all the scandals brewing it feels we'll be lucky if it survives until spring..

originally posted by: nonspecific

On behalf of the NHS.

I was employed by a facilities management company who had the contract in my locality.

a reply to: Mandroid7

Did you get to witness the people having seizures during the injection drives, like we were seeing in the videos going around?

originally posted by: chr0naut

Wouldn't the number of sick people be what is overloading the health system?

Also, triage... because some 'emergencies' are not time critical.

Its staffing, not so much the lack of beds, but there has been a big uptick of covid patients, so I'm sure that is overtasking an already overtasked workforce.

a reply to: nonspecific

Not to mention paying for medical insurance, too.

a reply to: v1rtu0s0

t's funny how most of us got a mild cold and never got it again, yet clot shot zombies continue to get it over and over again after being "vaccinated" against it.

Hey look the whole gang is here, who put out the bat signal?

If you weren't so sad, you'd be funny...
I see it's just like all your other posts. You have nothing to actually say about the NHS and are just here to troll like usual.

How would I see people having imaginary seizures after a COVID vaccine if I was working on a mobile PCR testing van?

They were nothing to do with each other and kept well apart.

The last thing you need when giving vaccines is to do it in the same place all the people with symptoms of the virus are.

You have to think about these things before you dice on in.




a reply to: Mandroid7

a reply to: v1rtu0s0

"Hey look the whole gang is here, who put out the bat signal?"


Don't worry, your own little echo chamber will be along shortly.

originally posted by: FlyInTheOintment
Hi ATS,

Here in the UK, 47 minutes is the current average waiting time for an ambulance if you have had a stroke or heart attack. People die within minutes of having either one of these dreadful episodes, and it seems to me that there is no concerted effort to stabilise the situation, people are being left to die, without anyone much raising a fuss about it in the halls of power - they are more focused on the state of the prime minister's press conferences....

Welcome to the future!
There is one upside to this... it will strengthen the general genetic pool. 🥂

a reply to: Mandroid7

Did you not notice he was involved in testing for COVID-19, not giving shots?

a reply to: Xtrozero

Its staffing, not so much the lack of beds, but there has been a big uptick of covid patients, so I'm sure that is overtasking an already overtasked workforce.

Actually, bed shortage is also a problem, but it's down to things like carehomes.
Older people become ill and the carehome carts them off the local Hospital and once they are stabilised and on the mend they should be returned, but carehomes do not have the correct staff to meet the needs of the elderly patient so the bed stays occupied, then add covid to the mix!

originally posted by: Oldcarpy2
a reply to: v1rtu0s0

"Hey look the whole gang is here, who put out the bat signal?"


Don't worry, your own little echo chamber will be along shortly.

Aarf aarf, aarf?

He knows exactly what I did.

He thinks I'm complicit in the whole "evil sceme" and will soon be tried for my crimes in the Hague.


a reply to: Oldcarpy2

originally posted by: nonspecific
He knows exactly what I did.

He thinks I'm complicit in the whole "evil sceme" and will soon be tried for my crimes in the Hague.


a reply to: Oldcarpy2

Why don't you two just shout across the basement at each other?

originally posted by: nonspecific

I'm pretty sure it a lie told to Americans by the medical industry.

It's free and it's socialism and it's horrid, you really wouldn't like it.

Now pay your bills and buy this medication.

So in America 57% of workers get their insurance from their company.
25% is socialized medicine
10% is uninsured
8% is private

So maybe they are telling you all lies about America as you at a personal level pay more for your socialized medicine then I do for my insurance.

originally posted by: Oldcarpy2
a reply to: v1rtu0s0

"Hey look the whole gang is here, who put out the bat signal?"


Don't worry, your own little echo chamber will be along shortly.

Now that is funny as sh!t.....

He's stone deaf.

He'll be gone soon, it's his turn to make dinner tonight.

I made pie and mash for us last night but I've no idea what he's got planned.


a reply to: MykeNukem

a reply to: nonspecific

Yes.

I'm still waiting for my trial date.

Got yours yet?

originally posted by: nonspecific
He's stone deaf.

He'll be gone soon, it's his turn to make dinner tonight.

I made pie and mash for us last night but I've no idea what he's got planned.


a reply to: MykeNukem

K, fair enough.

I pay national insurance as a scaled percentage of my income and receive "free" healthcare as part of the deal

If I earn nothing I get exactly the same deal as if I would earning one billion pounds a year.


a reply to: Xtrozero

Not sure the NHS problems have anything to do with de-population.

It's more to do with staffing and planning, coupled with the professionalisation of the paramedic profession. 20 years ago it was just driving ambulances, but nowadays, paramedics are front-line health professionals.

Average pay of a paramedic is c. £40K, with unsocial hours, overtime etc. Base starting salaries are £25-30K. An experienced paramedic earns a decent living.

The planning side is pushing people through the relevant education and training, and that has a long lead time and capacity of training places at universities et al.

Demographics also have an impact. More women in these professions - like General Practice - means increased likelihood that people take breaks to raise families.

It's complicated, but sod-all to do with population reduction, or Liz Truss for that matter.