Mandatory EV's... so where will we put all the gasoline and diesel?

Lets assume that mandatory Electric Vehicles is a feasible concept. Okay, so where will we put all the obsolete gasoline and diesel?

I don't get the feeling the powers pushing this idea have thought things all the way through.

Because we don't pump oil just to fuel cars. Petroleum fuels every aspect of the modern world, and not just in the sense of "energy".

It's in everything. From lipstick to toothpaste. Carpet to couches. Almost literally all plastics. And on and on.

Say you even solve that problem, we're still driving cars right? On roads... primarily made of asphalt.

I guess we could just burn all the gasoline... and make electricity to power the EV's!

What say you mandatory EV proponents?

a reply to: godsovein

Pipe dream.

We do not have the resources, infrastructure, or power generation capacity for all electric cars across the country.

See, they know this. The REAL agenda is that you don't own a car in the first place and pay for rideshares and mass transit instead.

Eh. We’re gonna thwart climate change by forcing everyone to drive vehicles with batteries that can’t be recycled and explode in sea water.

Sounds legit.

What gasoline and diesel? If there were no gasoline or diesel engines, do you think crude would still be extracted? Do you think refineries would continue to produce it? Of course not, and like buggy whips and blacksmith shops, those products would gradually disappear. Look, I agree with some of the sentiments against EVs, but the actual question you asked is just silly.

originally posted by: schuyler
What gasoline and diesel? If there were no gasoline or diesel engines, do you think crude would still be extracted? Do you think refineries would continue to produce it? Of course not, and like buggy whips and blacksmith shops, those products would gradually disappear. Look, I agree with some of the sentiments against EVs, but the actual question you asked is just silly.

You think electric vehicles will replace the need for petrochemicals? Lol

Paints, solvents, plastics, Vaseline, benzine, kerosene, lacquer thinner.....etc...
PVC, vinyl, asphalt....

All bi products of making gasoline and diesel..
All will still be in demand..
Prices will triple..

a reply to: godsovein

Mandatory EV's...so where will we put all the gasoline and diesel?

Both will get used to manufacture, transport, and charge them.

a reply to: godsovein

Thought things through ?

Right now, TODAY, even the staunchest proponents of EV in California have to ask EV drivers to reduce recharging at peak times because the electrical grid cannot handle even the CURRENT small percentage of EVs.
By definition, leftists are morons.

www.team-bhp.com...

LOL

a reply to: Bluntone22

Prices will triple..

I think that's the idea.

originally posted by: schuyler

If there were no gasoline or diesel engines, do you think crude would still be extracted? Do you think refineries would continue to produce it?

You think if we didnt need gasoline we wouldnt pump crude anymore?

Bes ides gas, I found over 6000 products made from the oil industry

Oh, as long as we dont need gasoline we dont need the rest of modernity! Good thing we got rid of diesel now I dont need a computer anymore either.

originally posted by: godsovein

Lets assume that mandatory Electric Vehicles is a feasible concept. Okay, so where will we put all the obsolete gasoline and diesel?

Not to worry. It will go in the limousines, yachts, and private jets of the people telling us to go electric. Also the law enforcement vehicles used to keep the serfs in line, and the armored vehicles of the war machines used to regime change the people who don't fall in line.

Electric is for the little people.

originally posted by: Klassified
a reply to: Bluntone22

Prices will triple..

I think that's the idea.

I've often thought the best way to get rid of something is not to ban it but to make it more expensive...

Oil will become obselete at some point but not fast enough to comply with EV usage if you ask me.

Sooner or later I imagine what we call plastics now will be made of algae or fungus or some such oddness.

Petrol was a waste product when they first started pulling oil out of holes in the ground believe it or not.

They used to pour it away.

originally posted by: Bluntone22

originally posted by: schuyler
What gasoline and diesel? If there were no gasoline or diesel engines, do you think crude would still be extracted? Do you think refineries would continue to produce it? Of course not, and like buggy whips and blacksmith shops, those products would gradually disappear. Look, I agree with some of the sentiments against EVs, but the actual question you asked is just silly.

You think electric vehicles will replace the need for petrochemicals? Lol

Paints, solvents, plastics, Vaseline, benzine, kerosene, lacquer thinner.....etc...
PVC, vinyl, asphalt....

All bi products of making gasoline and diesel..
All will still be in demand..
Prices will triple..

a reply to: Bluntone22

So has the "liberals", like when they bought up all the bullets so they were too expensive. Oh wait, that didnt really work so well I mean yeah they messed with peoples money, but also drove up demand.

Better example is the across the board artificial scarcity going on, primarily with gas no less, but even with housing.

The government has no legally given authority to ban gasoline and diesel vehicles in the first place. The only way it could happen is if people stupidly allow it to happen. Citizens banning these power mad fools instead, would be a much better thing for everyone.

a reply to: godsovein
The other stuff is made from crude oil!

You need to refine crude oil to gasoline and diesel. If you stop doing that, there is no gasoline or diesel but you still can use the crude oil for the other stuff. You even have more crude oil for that.

Not sure if I misunderstand you or it's you that misunderstands the above. There's a logic twist in your narrative IMHO.

a reply to: TDDAgain

Gas / diesel are but part of the ooze called crude oil. Its in there, just like xylene, kerosene, asphalt and so on. Industry refers to them as "fractions", like put the crude into a long tube, heat it up just right, and everything starts separating out into their own isolates. At one height in the tube you get acetone, another kerosene, and so on.

It's not some decision like oh well with this barrel lets make gasoline, and that barrel we'll make roofing tar.

It's all in every barrel.

We owe everything we know to oil.

a reply to: godsovein

I know how refinery works.

But if plastics and other stuff are made from crude oil before the refinery (correct me if I am wrong, I am coming from an engine viewpoint), you do not have to refine it at all. Except the other stuff is not made from crude oil but stuff that is coming from the refinery process itself, like you listed up.

If that's the case, then I retract my statement (but let it stay for not making confusion for further readers).

a reply to: TDDAgain

Crude oil is cracked and separated into it's different parts.
They can adjust a bit to change the percentages of the chemicals being collected but only a little bit.

Gasoline comes from sweet crude for instance because of the high amount of gas and diesel extracted..
Other crude has much lower amounts.

I'm not sure which chemicals in particular come out when or where though

Tyres. Clothing. McDonald’s... 😁

a reply to: Bluntone22

Washer and seals.

a reply to: Bluntone22

Ah okay now that was confusion / not knowing on my part. In engine mechanic class we must have only handled "sweet" crude oil chain or I only focused on it in self-study, not sure if it was brought up in class or if it was one of the topics I looked at the books myself.

I thought there's only one type of crude oil. And the refinery of that single crude oil gives us the stuff that was explained above. Adding to that, I thought there is a different type of process to get from crude oil to polymere, plastics, bitumen and all the other stuff.

I missed that there are different crude oil types. Honestly I did not focus on this too much as it's not something I have to know in my daily work chores and the master exam was not focusing on this stuff.

Thank you both for clearing up!