Kary Mullis heavily criticising Anthony Fauci

In this video one of the most brightest and talented scientists and Nobel Prize Winner, Kary Mullis, criticises heavily the medical and scientific establishment as well as the Director of the National Institutes of Allergies and Infectious Diseases, Dr Anthony Fauci.


Kary Mullis is well known for the discovery of the polymerase chain reaction or commonly known as PCR for which he received the Nobel Prize in Chemistry back in 1993.

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Dr Anthony Fauci has been the director of NIAID since 1984 and was there in the AIDS era under President Ronald Reagan.


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The video is here and the following is an extract from it. The interview was conducted back in 1996 by Garry Null who is a journalist and reporter.

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Guys like Fauci get up there and start talking. He doesn't know anything really about anything, and I have to say that to his face, nothing. The man thinks you can take a blood sample and stick it in an electron microscope and if it got a virus there, you will know it. He doesn't understand electron microscopy and he doesn't understand medicine, and he should not be in the position he is. Most of those guys that are on the top are total administrative people and don't know anything about what is going on.

Adding further in terms of the ability of ordinary people to recognise good and decent scientists

You can't expect the sheep to really respect the best and the brightest. They don't know the difference really. I mean I like humans, don't get me wrong, but basically the vast majority of them do not possess the ability who is and who isn't a really good scientist

The entire video is here:

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It is worth the effort to watch the entire video to see what the establishment can do to the best and brightest. Kary Mullis has given a few examples, such Linus Pauling who won the Nobel Prize in Chemistry back in 1954 and the Nobel Peace Prize in 1962. Another example is one of the top retrovirologists and biochemists Dr Peter Duesberg from Berkeley.

A few things stand from his interview more than anything else. Most people, as he said, don't know who are the best and brightest scientists. That's absolutely true!

The man (speaking about Fauci) shouldn't be in the position he is. That's also very true.


Needless to say what perspective one gets if they have access to information that is not usually shown in the mainstream media.

Kary Mullis has been regarded as an eccentric genius with controversial views but I don't see anything controversial here or in his criticisms of the man made climate change ideology and the doom and gloom hysteric scenarios that are at odds with common sense and science.

If anything the world needs many more voices such as Kary Mullis who was very critical of the scientific and medical establishment and rightly so.


Kary Mullis
Novel Prize Winner 1993 - Discovery of PCR
1944-2019

a reply to: Asmodeus3

It's been said by some that Mullis had a bit of a personal grudge with Fauci.

Mullis was adamant that there was no connection between HIV and Aids.

When his own creation the PCR test was used to show that he was wrong it affected him profoundly.

Thats how the story goes at any rate.

a reply to: nonspecific

When his own creation the PCR test was used to show that he was wrong it affected him profoundly.

Can you elaborate on that bit please?

originally posted by: nonspecific
a reply to: Asmodeus3

It's been said by some that Mullis had a bit of a personal grudge with Fauci.

Mullis was adamant that there was no connection between HIV and Aids.

When his own creation the PCR test was used to show that he was wrong it affected him profoundly.

Thats how the story goes at any rate.

I don't think you realise who was wrong and who was right. The above is an assertion of yours which is based on your personal opinion and not on facts and analysis. I won't drift to discuss HIV/AIDS in this thread but here is a video again by Mullis on the subject

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And of course you have misunderstood and misinterpreted what Mullis has said but if you watch the video above it saves you time on reading on the subject.

originally posted by: Itisnowagain
a reply to: nonspecific

When his own creation the PCR test was used to show that he was wrong it affected him profoundly.

Can you elaborate on that bit please?

Unsubstantiated claims without any evidence attached to.

As usual personal takings are presented as facts.

originally posted by: nonspecific
a reply to: Asmodeus3

It's been said by some that Mullis had a bit of a personal grudge with Fauci.

Not really true.
He was just pointing to someone's lack of competence and lack of understanding of what PCR is.

a reply to: Asmodeus3

Unsubstantiated claims without any evidence attached to.

If you want substantiated evidence, check out 'The Real Anthony Fauci' by Robert F. Kennedy. 1000's of references, all substantiated.

What Fauci has been good at is controlling the medical research funding. This has allowed him to become quite good at supporting pharmaceutical profits. One of the many examples in how he has done this is suppress any study that compares the overall health between the vaccinated and vaccinated populations. It is not good for the health of vaccination profits to release such information. Just ask Bill Gates, vaccinations is so much more profitable than software.

originally posted by: kwakakev
a reply to: Asmodeus3

Unsubstantiated claims without any evidence attached to.

If you want substantiated evidence, check out 'The Real Anthony Fauci' by Robert F. Kennedy. 1000's of references, all substantiated.

What Fauci has been good at is controlling the medical research funding. This has allowed him to become quite good at supporting pharmaceutical profits. One of the many examples in how he has done this is suppress any study that compares the overall health between the vaccinated and vaccinated populations. It is not good for the health of vaccination profits to release such information. Just ask Bill Gates, vaccinations is so much more profitable than software.

When I said 'unsubstantiated evidence' I was referring to the post by another member who made some claims about Kary Mullis that were not correct.

Do watch the videos I have linked in the OP.
Kary Mullis says clearly what he thinks about Fauci long before the Covid era. The videos are from the 90s and I think 1996.

Mullis says that Fauci doesn't know anything about anything and he shouldn't be in the position he is. He is the director of the NIAID since 1984 and has obviously exceptional links with the pharmaceutical industry and strong political alliances.

Also do watch the video I posted, although not intended, about Mullis criticisms in HIV/AIDS. Its on the third post.

originally posted by: nonspecific
a reply to: Asmodeus3

It's been said by some that Mullis had a bit of a personal grudge with Fauci.

Mullis was adamant that there was no connection between HIV and Aids.

When his own creation the PCR test was used to show that he was wrong it affected him profoundly.

Thats how the story goes at any rate.

Sounds like CNN propaganda. Mullis invented PCR, Fauci did nothing. Mullis said PCR should not be used as a diagnostic and they took it and used it at a high cycle threshold so almost anything would make the Covid test show positive. Fauci just tortures dogs orphans and kills people through medical experiments like Mengele.

originally posted by: v1rtu0s0

originally posted by: nonspecific
a reply to: Asmodeus3

It's been said by some that Mullis had a bit of a personal grudge with Fauci.

Mullis was adamant that there was no connection between HIV and Aids.

When his own creation the PCR test was used to show that he was wrong it affected him profoundly.

Thats how the story goes at any rate.

Sounds like CNN propaganda. Mullis invented PCR, Fauci did nothing. Mullis said PCR should not be used as a diagnostic and they took it and used it at a high cycle threshold so almost anything would make the Covid test show positive. Fauci just tortures dogs orphans and kills people through medical experiments like Mengele.

I find it fascinating when arguments are made in the absence of any evidence by the other member and a few others who seem not to read anything related to the scientific literature and anything in general but yet come up with stories that have no basis in anything.

They are easily refuted however I don't know what motivates these unsubstantiated claims.

It does sound though as left-wing propaganda and activism.

Since when Mullis had anything personal against Fauci?

Since when Mullis was proven wrong about his stance on HIV?

Consider there are those who still believe they can use PCR to make a diagnosis. Something specifically Mullis said it can't happen. It's actually in the OP!

The man thinks you can take a blood sample and stick it in an electron microscope and if it got a virus there, you will know it. He doesn't understand electron microscopy and he doesn't understand medicine, and he should not be in the position he is.

a reply to: Asmodeus3

Have come across some of Mullis views on Fauci before. With how Fauci has prioritized corporate profits over public health frustrates me.

I was still in High School when all that AIDS thing kicked of. Don't know as much about as I do Covid. On the surface, AZT, the fist drug Fauci pushed back then has since been withdrawn. It was financially beneficial for Fauci at the time and helped his rise up the money chain.

It does have the same kind of smell with what is happening with Remdesiver. With how well known as safe treatments have been blocked for many to get forced into dangerous and experimental treatments is next level evil. War crimes stuff.

originally posted by: kwakakev
a reply to: Asmodeus3

Have come across some of Mullis views on Fauci before. With how Fauci has prioritized corporate profits over public health frustrates me.

I was still in High School when all that AIDS thing kicked of. Don't know as much about as I do Covid. On the surface, AZT, the fist drug Fauci pushed back then has since been withdrawn. It was financially beneficial for Fauci at the time and helped his rise up the money chain.

It does have the same kind of smell with what is happening with Remdesiver. With how well known as safe treatments have been blocked for many to get forced into dangerous and experimental treatments is next level evil. War crimes stuff.

For information AZT was withdrawn from the market and then came back in the AIDS era as there was nothing to treat people with AIDS. Although the decision to bring it up caused a lot of reaction from scientists as the reason it was withdrawn in the first place was due to its high toxicity. It's a cancer chemotherapy drug that may have killed plenty of humans as it destroys the bone marrow.

Mullis and other scientists were criticising heavily the way the AIDS epidemic was handled by the medical authorities in the 80s and in the first half of the 90s. If you want to see the parallels you need to learn about this epidemic first and then you can make the comparisons.

Mullis was highly critical of the academic and scientific establishment, not just Fauci, as he had nothing against this person. He didn't consider him very bright either.

a reply to: Asmodeus3

For information AZT was withdrawn from the market and then came back in the AIDS era as there was nothing to treat people with AIDS

Yeah, my point exactly. We are getting the same propaganda these days about Remdesiver. Ohh, we have not anything for covid, stay away from that stuff that ain't going to hurt you and take this stuff with bad side effects and the hospital gets a great bonus from the government.

If you are looking for some evidence on this:

COVID-19 HUMANITY BETRAYAL MEMORY PROJECT

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The NIH banned gain-of-function research in 2014, but revived it in 2017 with no objection from Fauci. In 2019, Fred Guterl of Newsweek said, “The National Institute for Allergy and Infectious Diseases, the organization led by Dr. Fauci, funded scientists at the Wuhan Institute of Virology and other institutions for work on gain-of-function research on bat coronaviruses.”

The NIH, Guterl wrote, “committed $3.7 million over six years for research that included some gain-of-function work. The program followed another $3.7 million, five-year project for collecting and studying bat coronaviruses, which ended in 2019, bringing the total to $7.4 million.” Fauci didn’t respond to Newsweek’s request for comment.

Fauci’s statement that the COVID-19 virus “adapted itself” to humans in the wild is backed by no scientific study that had been peer-reviewed and replicated by an independent party. That should come as no surprise. The statement that the NIH sent no money to the Wuhan Institute of Virology is hardly his first verifiable falsehood.

originally posted by: Asmodeus3
www.independent.org...

The NIH banned gain-of-function research in 2014, but revived it in 2017 with no objection from Fauci. In 2019, Fred Guterl of Newsweek said, “The National Institute for Allergy and Infectious Diseases, the organization led by Dr. Fauci, funded scientists at the Wuhan Institute of Virology and other institutions for work on gain-of-function research on bat coronaviruses.”

The NIH, Guterl wrote, “committed $3.7 million over six years for research that included some gain-of-function work. The program followed another $3.7 million, five-year project for collecting and studying bat coronaviruses, which ended in 2019, bringing the total to $7.4 million.” Fauci didn’t respond to Newsweek’s request for comment.

Fauci’s statement that the COVID-19 virus “adapted itself” to humans in the wild is backed by no scientific study that had been peer-reviewed and replicated by an independent party. That should come as no surprise. The statement that the NIH sent no money to the Wuhan Institute of Virology is hardly his first verifiable falsehood.

I am curious what the reaction by Kary Mullis would have been if he was still alive. Unfortunately one of the most vocal scientists has passed away back in 2019.

Mullis was convinced that there was no link between hiv and aids.

He said so quite openly and fervently.


a reply to: Asmodeus3

PCR has been used for ages to diagnose loads of conditions.

Mullis was a very clever man but he was also flawed in some of his beliefs.

No one is infallible and he was no exception.


a reply to: v1rtu0s0

originally posted by: nonspecific
Mullis was convinced that there was no link between hiv and aids.

He said so quite openly and fervently.


a reply to: Asmodeus3

You still misunderstand what Kary Mullis has said about this, given he was a brilliant scientist who had won the Nobel Prize for the invention of PCR and criticised scientists including Fauci who thought they can use his invention for diagnosis or for determining one had a current infection.

As for HIV and AIDS you need to watch the video I linked to see why he had so many doubts about linking HIV to AIDS. He never backtracked from his position due to the absence of any evidence establishing the causal link according to him.

originally posted by: nonspecific
PCR has been used for ages to diagnose loads of conditions.

Mullis was a very clever man but he was also flawed in some of his beliefs.

No one is infallible and he was no exception.


a reply to: v1rtu0s0

PCR cannot be used for diagnosis on its own.
You are wrong again on this. It amplifies genetic material. That what it does. Diagnosis is something very different to using PCR.

The flaws are in your arguments as it seems and not in his views and his very well qualified claims.

Sometimes called "molecular photocopying," the polymerase chain reaction (PCR) is a fast and inexpensive technique used to "amplify" - copy - small segments of DNA. Because significant amounts of a sample of DNA are necessary for molecular and genetic analyses, studies of isolated pieces of DNA are nearly impossible without PCR amplification.

Often heralded as one of the most important scientific advances in molecular biology, PCR revolutionized the study of DNA to such an extent that its creator, Kary B. Mullis, was awarded the Nobel Prize for Chemistry in 1993

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So why are PCR tests used to detect STD's like clamyidia and gonereah?

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