America just blew up Russia's gas pipeline, and admitted it.

a reply to: JinMI

Just like Czechoslovakia "hurt itself" in 1938/9.

Come on, Jin. You're pushing hollow arguments here.

They didn't work then. They won't work now.

Cheers

originally posted by: F2d5thCavv2
a reply to: JinMI

Just like Czechoslovakia "hurt itself" in 1938/9.

Come on, Jin. You're pushing hollow arguments here.

They didn't work then. They won't work now.

Cheers

No, I'm not pushing anything.

Well, except maybe the notion that our govt is spending billions for kickbacks. It only costs a lil nazi support and civilian deaths.....

originally posted by: MidnightWatcher
a reply to: M5xaz


Does the US have the LNG terminals to export any more gas to Europe?



Then why make stuff up again?

Constant projection.
You are the one making stuff up.

Videos with Biden and Nuland are CLEAR despite your desire to be willfully blind.

a reply to: M5xaz


Of course videos are available, but they are both taken out of context and twisted to include words that weren't said, like 'take out that pipeline'.




Does the US have the LNG terminals to export any more gas to Europe?

Then why keep 'projecting' that the US is gonna reap some kind of imaginary windfall?

The USA is a net exporter of natural gas. It can't be piped to Europe, but it can be compressed, and loaded onto boats, at greater expense, and sent to Europe.

Whether Europe is willing to pay that extra cost depends on how desperate they are for the natural gas, I guess.

originally posted by: bloodymarvelous
The USA is a net exporter of natural gas. It can't be piped to Europe, but it can be compressed, and loaded onto boats, at greater expense, and sent to Europe.

Whether Europe is willing to pay that extra cost depends on how desperate they are for the natural gas, I guess.

Natural gas is nearly free here compared to what Europe would pay right now, the costs aren't the issue.



The issue is that the US is already using 100% of it's LNG compression facilities (LNG export facilities) and they normally take more than a decade to build.

Similar situation with the specialized ships, there aren't nearly enough of them to make much of a dent in Europe's needs, and they normally take almost a decade to build.

Same situation on the European side, they would need regasification (LNG import facilities) that also normally take around a decade to build.

originally posted by: MidnightWatcher



The issue is that the US is already using 100% of it's LNG compression facilities (LNG export facilities) and they normally take more than a decade to build.

It's called "driving up the price". Why produce more, if you can just charge more for what you're already producing?

Someone gains if that pipeline blows up, and it's not necessarily a government that gains. Nor are government the only entities that own helicopters, or are capable of making and delivering bombs to a stationary target.

a reply to: bloodymarvelous


We produce plenty already, we don't have the ability to ship any more to Europe at any price.





"Someone gains if that pipeline blows up, and it's not necessarily a government that gains. Nor are government the only entities that own helicopters, or are capable of making and delivering bombs to a stationary target."



I agree, IF it was destroyed intentionally, I'm still hoping it was simple russian incompetence again.

Either way, it's impossible to tell until we get some evidence.

a reply to: MidnightWatcher

You mean those decades Europe lost while Merkel made criminally stupid decisions about energy supply policy?

Let's pin the tail on the jackass, shall we?

Cheers

a reply to: MidnightWatcher


Some data i just find :


US #LNG has now overtaken combined Russian pipe gas + LNG in supplies to Europe in September, @ICISOfficial data shows.

originally posted by: Kenzo
a reply to: MidnightWatcher


Some data i just find :


US #LNG has now overtaken combined Russian pipe gas + LNG in supplies to Europe in September, @ICISOfficial data shows.

Yup, that matches my understanding, russian supply through the pipeline had gone to near zero or zero by the time the pipeline 'exploded'.

Also notice that US LNG supplies have been steady for months, that is 100% of our capacity.

originally posted by: F2d5thCavv2
a reply to: MidnightWatcher

You mean those decades Europe lost while Merkel made criminally stupid decisions about energy supply policy?

Let's pin the tail on the jackass, shall we?

Cheers

Let's not forget our domestic 'jackass', shall we?

You attack your enemy when you are at war...Democrats have set up and are using Ukraine for this.

Democrats have been planning this for a long time

a reply to: Bloodworth



They totally have and you're the first person to point it out

originally posted by: anonentity
a reply to: bloodymarvelous

When was the last time Putin did not keep his word?

Really? Really?

How about when he said Russia would not invade Unkraine, it was just training exercises?

Pretty big lie that one...

PA

a reply to: PerfectAnomoly

Let's not forget as well that this isn't war, it's a "Special Operation".

The US is redirecting shipments of lng to europe, at the loss for other countries.

It has increased by roughly 12% so far this year.

originally posted by: PerfectAnomoly

originally posted by: anonentity
a reply to: bloodymarvelous

When was the last time Putin did not keep his word?

Really? Really?

How about when he said Russia would not invade Unkraine, it was just training exercises?

Pretty big lie that one...

PA

It isn't war yet.

a reply to: Nexttimemaybe

Really?

Tanks, rockets, shelling, bombing, missiles, invading army?

Seems to tick all the boxes for a war.

No?

originally posted by: Oldcarpy2
a reply to: Nexttimemaybe

Really?

Tanks, rockets, shelling, bombing, missiles, invading army?

Seems to tick all the boxes for a war.

No?

Seem to go round in circles with you on this.

A fully mobilised shock and awe campaign and it would of been a war.

If putin gets his foot out of his ass then it will become a war.

Not going round in circles with you anymore so talk to yourself.