America just blew up Russia's gas pipeline, and admitted it.

originally posted by: MidnightWatcher

originally posted by: SentientBunnySuit
What sort of statement from Russia would you believe if they did?

None.

But I would believe actual evidence.

No you wouldn't. You just dismissed citations of two independent experts. nah, you drank the koolade.

originally posted by: SentientBunnySuit

originally posted by: MidnightWatcher

originally posted by: SentientBunnySuit
What sort of statement from Russia would you believe if they did?

None.

But I would believe actual evidence.

No you wouldn't. You just dismissed citations of two independent experts. nah, you drank the koolade.

Two 'experts' that had seen zero 'evidence'.

I dismissed their 'opinion'.

originally posted by: Brassmonkey
So back to the topic of the thread

Why would Russia blow up their pipeline that gives them leverage over Germany and Europe and is highly profitable?
Doesn’t make sense in any game theory.

Because it no longer provided any leverage?

originally posted by: Brassmonkey

originally posted by: MidnightWatcher

originally posted by: Brassmonkey

originally posted by: Brassmonkey

originally posted by: MidnightWatcher
a reply to: Brassmonkey


"It’s also disingenuous to not put blame on the USA and numerous other countries forming and coalition of countries and putting military bases right next to the Russian border boxing Russia in and placing an ever present threat to that country"




Have any evidence of the absurd russian propaganda that NATO built bases in Ukraine?

Perhaps russia should stop the land grabbing neighbor invasions if russia wants better relations with it's neighborsdin?

Why is Russia invading? Because they don’t want Ukraine to be in NATO and have US military bases on their border. Russia needs Ukraine to not be in NATO. Do you think if Russia tried to get Canada in a Russian alliance of 16 countries called RATO and then that would mean Russia had military bases 10 miles from Buffalo do you think we would invade Canada first? You Dam right we would

I thought it was the US funded nazi bio weapon labs?

Perhaps russia would have fewer enemies on it's borders if russia stopped with the land grabbing neighbor invading?

But no, we wouldn't invade Canada any more than we invaded cuba and venezuela.

I didn’t say anything about Nazi bio weapons labs in Ukraine but nice StrawMan argument…..lol

russia did.

a reply to: MidnightWatcher

But Biden is on video saying we will take out the pipeline to that reporter back in 02/2022 if Russia invaded.

President Biden said on record on video:

“If Russia invades, that means tanks or troops crossing the border of Ukraine, again, then there will be — there will be no longer a Nord Stream 2," the president told reporters. "We will bring an end to it."

CBS NEWS LINK MAIN STREAM MEDIA

Also Washington has a motive to blow it up because it wants to sell more liquefied natural gas (LNG) to Europe.

I still fail to see any incentive the Russians would gain by blowing up a non-operational pipeline?

a reply to: Brassmonkey


He didn't say 'take out that pipeline', he said the political discussions over starting it would end.

He also only mentioned 1 of the 2 pipelines that were destroyed.

Why keep repeating this lie?

Better video where Biden says “ we will bring an end to it”
Check out his grin when the lady confronts him and says:
“how will you exactly bring an end to it?”
And look at his face and grin when he says “it wil come to an end”
Newsweek

a reply to: MidnightWatcher

a reply to: Brassmonkey


Did he say 'take out the pipeline' as you claimed?

originally posted by: MidnightWatcher
a reply to: Brassmonkey


Did he say 'take out the pipeline' as you claimed?

Sure looks that way. Biden said he'd end the pipeline if Russia invaded Ukraine.

Russia invaded Ukraine, pipeline ended.

Promises made, promises kept.

originally posted by: SourGrapes

originally posted by: MidnightWatcher
a reply to: Brassmonkey


Did he say 'take out the pipeline' as you claimed?

Sure looks that way. Biden said he'd end the pipeline if Russia invaded Ukraine.

Russia invaded Ukraine, pipeline ended.

Promises made, promises kept.

He was speaking about 1 of the 2 pipelines, the one that russia had long been seeking political permission to start using.

biden also did not say the words 'take out the pipeline', that was all in your head.

originally posted by: MidnightWatcher

originally posted by: SourGrapes

originally posted by: MidnightWatcher
a reply to: Brassmonkey


Did he say 'take out the pipeline' as you claimed?

Sure looks that way. Biden said he'd end the pipeline if Russia invaded Ukraine.

Russia invaded Ukraine, pipeline ended.

Promises made, promises kept.

He was speaking about 1 of the 2 pipelines, the one that russia had long been seeking political permission to start using.

biden also did not say the words 'take out the pipeline', that was all in your head.

Stop this obsessive denial... it makes you look #ing stupid. When Biden says "there will be no Nordstream 2" we all damn well know what he means... the use of words only matter in terms of deniability, not in regards to true intentions.

So... shut the # up.

originally posted by: MidnightWatcher

originally posted by: SourGrapes

originally posted by: MidnightWatcher
a reply to: Brassmonkey


Did he say 'take out the pipeline' as you claimed?

Sure looks that way. Biden said he'd end the pipeline if Russia invaded Ukraine.

Russia invaded Ukraine, pipeline ended.

Promises made, promises kept.

He was speaking about 1 of the 2 pipelines, the one that russia had long been seeking political permission to start using.

biden also did not say the words 'take out the pipeline', that was all in your head.

So, let me get this straight.

You wont take biden at his quoted word, but you will take putins indirect quotes.

Do you wonder why youre not taken seriously? Well, outside of the multiple sock accounts anyway.

Biden was talking about shutting the pipeline politically , and after Russia started the war, US and Germany make political decision to shut it down, and so it happened.

If USA would have done it, all 4 strings would have blown away . Now 3 are out form 4 .

a reply to: flice


Past your naptime?

🍫

Have a Snickers.

a reply to: JinMI

Are you from 5th column ?

originally posted by: Kenzo
a reply to: JinMI

Are you from 5th column ?

Am i supposed to know what that its?

a reply to: JinMI

So i looked it up.

If you mean by undermining the current admin that is dumping billions of taxpayer dollars into a cesspit thats fighting another cesspit for that admins own financial gain?


Yes

a reply to: JinMI


Can you do it without hurting Ukraine or Chamberlaining our way into ww3?

originally posted by: MidnightWatcher
a reply to: JinMI


Can you do it without hurting Ukraine or Chamberlaining our way into ww3?

Ukraine hurt itself.

Not our problem.

originally posted by: putnam6

originally posted by: tamusan
a reply to: MidnightWatcher

Then the effects in Russia will be even worse than the fallout that would come from Ukraine.

But I keep hearing and reading a lot about "tactical nukes may be used in Ukraine."

Depending on the size, they can be very low yields, but Id watch for the withdrawal of Russian troops, and rumors they really are at an operational disadvantage in a nuclear environment, so much so if used it will be a vengeance weapon as much as anything.

I agree. If nukes are used, it will be statement of "If we can't have it then neither can you."