The State Funeral of HRH Queen Elizabeth II

a reply to: Tortuga

except we live in a world where feelings trump duty, one where you can have 2 popes and it not rip the Roman church apart..

BBC News - Emma the pony and other personal moments at funeral
www.bbc.co.uk...

Bless!

well there you have it..

what can yuo say to that...

Man arrested in Queen queue ‘planned to shout “get out of your f***ing coffin”‘

That lone bagpiper was a nice touch.

a reply to: nickyw

I could say a lot.

To his face.

Joe and Jill Biden. Seated 14 rows back. Behind the Poland delegation.

www.msn.com...

Meaning what???

a reply to: carewemust
Meaning absolutely nothing.

a reply to: carewemust
There's a youtube video somewhere about them arriving late and having to wait for a seat. Got caught up in traffic.

A fixture for my entire life on this increasingly tiny world. American though I may be, I've had a bit of fascination for the Royals for much of my life--the trappings, in especial...

I watched a little of it, my lasting impression is the utter devastation on the faces of her grand-children.

To them, she wasn't Queen Elizabeth, she was Grand-ma.

May she rest in peace. Of all the Kings and Queens before her, her place is at the forefront.

Rest In Peace, and best of luck to Charles III, he's got incredibly hard shoes to fill. Given his appearance, I hope William is preparing. Hope I'm wrong.

The State Funeral of HRH Queen Elizabeth II

R.I.P., Ma'am.





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a reply to: Oldcarpy2
Maybe Charlotte will ride Emma!

From an old "yank" , a paraphrase of a song :

"Go rest high on that mountain
Ma''am , your work on earth is done"

(Vince Gill - Go Rest High on That Mountain)

a reply to: carewemust

The president's position in the crowd was not a calculated political decision, but was instead decided by royal protocol.

At Her Majesty's funeral political leaders from Commonwealth nations outrank those from the rest of the world, even if they are from smaller or less influential countries.

This way of doing things is what led to President Biden being sat seven rows behind Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau.

He was also placed to the rear of the Emperor and Empress of Japan who were seated in the 6th row, behind European royals and the King of Jordan.

I would like to thank all the non-British members from the US and around the world for their kind words and who by and large showed QEII the regard, dignity and respect she deserved.

We all have our opinions on Monarchy.
But yesterday wasn't the time or place to discuss such matters.

Regardless of the rights or wrongs of Monarchy it can not be denied that she served with unstinting loyalty to the UK and was a massive force behind The Commonwealth.
She devoted herself to service and was a beacon for Unity in these islands.

I suspect her like will not be seen again, certainly not in what remains of my life.

Anyone wanting to discuss anything surrounding QEII and the British Royal Family please start a thread, I'll gladly contribute as I'm sure will many others who have posted here.

I really do want to believe that she was as decent as the we’re told by the msm and those that have enjoyed her patronage, as well as those that have simply chosen to believe. I don’t want to piss on that sentiment in a world already short on good sentiment. If it’s true, then I’d follow a leader like that anywhere and fight for their cause.

But the truth is I don’t know and I don’t by default believe.

If I were a fly on the wall of the palace over the years would I have heard her defend her subjects in the face of the consistent efforts to disenfranchise and ‘own’ them. That’s been a fairly successful project of subjugation - a return to feudalism by stealth in which we may well own nothing and be extremely unhappy. Might we all be a lot deeper into that hell if not for her efforts?

Or might I have heard as that fly her impatience for the progress of that project to get the riff raff under the thumb - under that forever stamping boot that Orwell saw coming?

I mean no disrespect to those mourning, so I’ve waited until after the burial, but I hope it’s now permissible to question this. I’m not saying, or even suggesting the darker options above and correct. But I am saying that in truth none of us here (I assume) had the access to her adequate to draw an evidence based conclusion.

For me, as the spidey-verse says with great power comes great responsibility, and imho if we judge by what’s known in the public arena the royal family appear to have, since after WWII played for self preservation. Instead of ‘We’ll meet again’ in the covid speech the sincere message would’ve been that the blatant venality and mismanagement of covid has led me to the decision to absolve parliament and have a general election. Could she have legally done that? I’m not sure, but she could certainly have communicated that sentiment if her subjects truly came first.

She knew that telling truths would risk parliament railing against the royals and pulling strings for a Republic narrative to remove the monarchy. Who can blame her - she’s looking out for her family, like any mum would. But that makes her, to my mind ‘any mum’. Use the thrown, or loose the throne, rather than sitting in that big opulent chair silently in fear of the music stopping

But one thing is for certain, however bad a situation we’re in it could be a damn sight worse and if some folk need a person the thank for that, then she’s probably as good as any.

ETA: by the way, imo those people protesting at the funeral were out of order - there’s a time and a place. Her family’s grieving and whatever we think of that family and its members just give them that moment to grieve.

a reply to: McGinty
Fortunately nobody gives a **** what you think of her. You don’t get to operate in the public eye for 70 years and have so much worldwide respect if you’re not a decent person.

a reply to: McGinty

the thing is those very subjects are the ones who tied her hands and mouth, so those who wanted her or now Charles to do something deeply political or ideo9logical would be the first in line to denounce them if they did.

originally posted by: nickyw
a reply to: McGinty

the thing is those very subjects are the ones who tied her hands and mouth, so those who wanted her or now Charles to do something deeply political or ideo9logical would be the first in line to denounce them if they did.

So the royals have these concerns, but don't voice them, because a section of the public wouldn't like it? Doesn't a good leader tell the truth, even if it makes them unpopular? Is populism a good thing?

originally posted by: Tortuga
a reply to: McGinty
Fortunately nobody gives a **** what you think of her.

Thanks for your consideration